Is anyone moving now?
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After lots of phone calls/emails on Friday we have managed to find a remover who can fit us in on 23rd. Only £300 more than our intended company and given the situation I didn't think we were in a position to haggle. All the online reviews seem positive and he came across well when he visited on Sunday so hopefully the fact that he was available isn't a bad sign.
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
That’s no issue for me, fortunately. I’m moving from one floor to another floor in the same building 
How are you going to make that work?Will you effectively have keys to both properties for an hour or two, moving everything you own from one straight to the other?
Or if there’s no crossover will everything be held in communal areas?
Worst case scenario I guess is that you hire a van, take everything down to ground floor, load it in the van then once you have the keys to the new place take it back up?
We may have a similar situation albeit with 3/4-bed semis within 50m of each other, just planning how best to do it should the stars align and we get a “buyer” that actually wants to see it through and buy our house.
Claude455 said:
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
That’s no issue for me, fortunately. I’m moving from one floor to another floor in the same building
How are you going to make that work?Will you effectively have keys to both properties for an hour or two, moving everything you own from one straight to the other?
Or if there’s no crossover will everything be held in communal areas?
Worst case scenario I guess is that you hire a van, take everything down to ground floor, load it in the van then once you have the keys to the new place take it back up?
We may have a similar situation albeit with 3/4-bed semis within 50m of each other, just planning how best to do it should the stars align and we get a “buyer” that actually wants to see it through and buy our house.
JeffreyD said:
parakitaMol. said:
Thanks, well yeah, thing is we already bought (and virtually moved into) a big place in Devon so this is a bit of a blow. Husband is very stressed about funding two big properties - the new one is needing a huge amount of work.
I don't think it's the agent at fault here - the two we are on with are fine - we actually decided to pull £100k off the price for a quicker sale. Will give your suggestion some thought though - appreciate your reply. Fingers crossed.
This is could be our situation.I don't think it's the agent at fault here - the two we are on with are fine - we actually decided to pull £100k off the price for a quicker sale. Will give your suggestion some thought though - appreciate your reply. Fingers crossed.
I don't want to commit to the place we are buying as I could end up with a smallholding and a house (on top of another house) and the whole point of the move was to have a change of life.
Our buyers have gone from proving the equivalent of a 100% mortgage and not having to sell. To now a mortgage that required a valuation and now a structural survey. And they still want to complete for the SDLT deadline. And we have still had zero enquiries and searches are outstanding.
As I need to spend quite a few quid that I otherwise wouldn't moving some stuff and on fencing and the like (in the thousands) I'm just not going to do it until we have some firm dates.
I'm still utterly livid about these people. I cannot believe our s
tty luck on this sale. Wasted 5 months with 2 asshole buyers. bungz said:
Had a great time the other day.
Have had a weekend away booked in London for ages, sadly clashed a little with needing to find a house.
Typically one came up the Thursday, drove around it that night. Area is right all happy.
EA will not commit to any viewings past the few on Saturday (when I am 150 miles away) as they know it will likely sell.
Say I have seen enough and am in a positon to make a bid. This is rejected as I haven't viewed the property.
Ended up going back home spending most of the day on trains and taxis to view the house.
Put the offer in to have it rejected a hour later as the house was sold to a cash buyer as the vendor wanted to sell ASAP. ( we are selling to ftb so no chain to speak of)
Absolute waste of my time, EA knew I was unlikely to be accepted due to not being cash and obviously knew other viewers were cash.
Was a really scummy thing to do.
I don't think that is scummy at allHave had a weekend away booked in London for ages, sadly clashed a little with needing to find a house.
Typically one came up the Thursday, drove around it that night. Area is right all happy.
EA will not commit to any viewings past the few on Saturday (when I am 150 miles away) as they know it will likely sell.
Say I have seen enough and am in a positon to make a bid. This is rejected as I haven't viewed the property.
Ended up going back home spending most of the day on trains and taxis to view the house.
Put the offer in to have it rejected a hour later as the house was sold to a cash buyer as the vendor wanted to sell ASAP. ( we are selling to ftb so no chain to speak of)
Absolute waste of my time, EA knew I was unlikely to be accepted due to not being cash and obviously knew other viewers were cash.
Was a really scummy thing to do.
If I was that EA and I had numerous bookings already (inc cash buyers) and felt it would sell then I'd not waste your time by booking a viewing after a point when it was likely to be under offer.
If I was the vendor and had cash buyers I would choose them over you. I would also choose an offer from someone who had seen it than someone who hadn't.
Your time wasn't wasted by them, it was wasted by yourself, you didn't view when you should have done, it because you had more important things to do.
It seems our solicitors local office has closed with all the staff being 'let go' and they have taken all the customer files to their London office (we're in the Tees Valley). They haven't actually told us this as there is a recorded message on their number and a new number to ring. I tried it today and after it ringing for 5 mins on the first two attempts, someone actually answered and I did a bit of digging to try and find out whats going on. The searches that I paid for and assumed they were in before the 21st May, may or may not be in and they wanted proof that I had paid for them (sent bit of bank account) and they haven't actually allocated my file to anyone yet and it might be the end of the week before they do. I really *hope* they are in and we can get this sale on track as I don't think my buyer wants to pay SD . . . ( and TBH neither do I !)
I feel a strongly worded e-mail to the director of the company (who probably doesn't give a st) and the Ombudsman, but to err on the side of caution, it might be after the sale has completed!
I feel a strongly worded e-mail to the director of the company (who probably doesn't give a s
t) and the Ombudsman, but to err on the side of caution, it might be after the sale has completed! parakitaMol. said:
I don't think that is scummy at all
If I was that EA and I had numerous bookings already (inc cash buyers) and felt it would sell then I'd not waste your time by booking a viewing after a point when it was likely to be under offer.
If I was the vendor and had cash buyers I would choose them over you. I would also choose an offer from someone who had seen it than someone who hadn't.
Your time wasn't wasted by them, it was wasted by yourself, you didn't view when you should have done, it because you had more important things to do.
Yeah that's the way the market is at the moment. I'd rather not be in it, given the choice. We've been under offer for weeks but there's so little stock out there, although there do seem to be quite a few sales falling through. If I was that EA and I had numerous bookings already (inc cash buyers) and felt it would sell then I'd not waste your time by booking a viewing after a point when it was likely to be under offer.
If I was the vendor and had cash buyers I would choose them over you. I would also choose an offer from someone who had seen it than someone who hadn't.
Your time wasn't wasted by them, it was wasted by yourself, you didn't view when you should have done, it because you had more important things to do.
A house came up in our preferred areas yesterday. It wasn't great and toppy but there's been so little on we thought it best to have a look. EA laughed when we called and mentioned the house in question; it's all he's dealt with all day. Full set of bookings for today and he reckons it'll be gone by the weekend. Madness.
We looked round a budget stretching doer-upper in a not so great area a couple of weeks ago. 5 offers on the table, including 2 over the asking which was itself about 5% more than it was worth. People are getting desperate.
Phoned Vodafone today to start the house move. Both properties have Vodafone Gigafast (CityFibre) so should be as easy as switching? Nope.
Apparently I need to downgrade to normal BT line connection again at max speed 50 then upgrade after a month, resulting in a BT Openreach engineer needing to come out to install that line etc as old own removed it all when Gigafast was installed.
I've said no, I just want to switch from Gigafast 200 to Gigafast 200 (current owner has Gigafast 900)
Apparently I need to downgrade to normal BT line connection again at max speed 50 then upgrade after a month, resulting in a BT Openreach engineer needing to come out to install that line etc as old own removed it all when Gigafast was installed.
I've said no, I just want to switch from Gigafast 200 to Gigafast 200 (current owner has Gigafast 900)
Frik said:
Yeah that's the way the market is at the moment. I'd rather not be in it, given the choice. We've been under offer for weeks but there's so little stock out there, although there do seem to be quite a few sales falling through.
A house came up in our preferred areas yesterday. It wasn't great and toppy but there's been so little on we thought it best to have a look. EA laughed when we called and mentioned the house in question; it's all he's dealt with all day. Full set of bookings for today and he reckons it'll be gone by the weekend. Madness.
We looked round a budget stretching doer-upper in a not so great area a couple of weeks ago. 5 offers on the table, including 2 over the asking which was itself about 5% more than it was worth. People are getting desperate.
My move process was going swimmingly. Unfortunately it seems the lender who I went with, via a broker, is getting cold feet. That’s not even close to being a bright idea from them. It doesn’t particularly matter to me, I have reserve offers from the Bank with whom I have my accounts, they’re just a tiny bit higher in their interest rate offered ( but not by any great shakes ). I don’t think it’s the broker’s fault, but I will go nuclear if the lender reneges on their A.I.P.A house came up in our preferred areas yesterday. It wasn't great and toppy but there's been so little on we thought it best to have a look. EA laughed when we called and mentioned the house in question; it's all he's dealt with all day. Full set of bookings for today and he reckons it'll be gone by the weekend. Madness.
We looked round a budget stretching doer-upper in a not so great area a couple of weeks ago. 5 offers on the table, including 2 over the asking which was itself about 5% more than it was worth. People are getting desperate.
Mother in law and their partner have been looking to buy for years. I'm honestly not sure how serious they are (I suspect they might be serial timewasters but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt) but regardless it's clear that their mindset is now totally out of kilter with the way the market is now. They'll book a viewing on somewhere for a few days time and be told later that day, that it's now under offer and off the market. Or they'll do a viewing, like it, mull it over, then ask to do a second viewing and it will be gone. They refuse to consider putting early offers in or offering anything over asking price. It's their prerogative of course but I think it will continue to be a futile exercise for a little while yet.
Frik said:
Yeah that's the way the market is at the moment. I'd rather not be in it, given the choice. We've been under offer for weeks but there's so little stock out there, although there do seem to be quite a few sales falling through.
A house came up in our preferred areas yesterday. It wasn't great and toppy but there's been so little on we thought it best to have a look. EA laughed when we called and mentioned the house in question; it's all he's dealt with all day. Full set of bookings for today and he reckons it'll be gone by the weekend. Madness.
Mental isn't it. We looked at one this morning that came on the market on Wednesday, and they want offers in by Thursday. We've got another one to look at on Friday but they're the first 2 places that look suitable that cropped up in over a month. We've put in offers on 3 so far for 7-8% over asking price and on the last one 4 people offered more than us. Currently renting and putting in about 15% deposit so should be a reasonably attractive proposition to someone who wants to move fast. We're seeing a few places come back on the market which makes me wonder if people are offering too high and then being refused a mortgage. A house came up in our preferred areas yesterday. It wasn't great and toppy but there's been so little on we thought it best to have a look. EA laughed when we called and mentioned the house in question; it's all he's dealt with all day. Full set of bookings for today and he reckons it'll be gone by the weekend. Madness.
I think the EAs are pushing sellers to be unreasonable. We considered two for selling our house; one wanted to cram viewings so everyone would see that there was plenty of interest, and suggested a similar offers deadline. The other reckoned the house would basically sell itself to the right person, who'd be really happy with it - it did need some work, but wasn't in a dreadful state.
The second chap got the business. It was all pretty relaxed (until the first buyers pulled out in a panic over the running costs, of all things). It's all fraught enough at the best of times; in the current climate and market I don't see any reason to make it even more stressful for buyers. The buyer we have now (exchanged) has been very calm. We actually rejected his first offer and told him to offer £5k less, but with full understanding of the work that needed to be done. That meant we didn't have to split the roofing costs (estimated at £10k) but he knew what he was in for. Same end number, no arguing after the offer was accepted.
The second chap got the business. It was all pretty relaxed (until the first buyers pulled out in a panic over the running costs, of all things). It's all fraught enough at the best of times; in the current climate and market I don't see any reason to make it even more stressful for buyers. The buyer we have now (exchanged) has been very calm. We actually rejected his first offer and told him to offer £5k less, but with full understanding of the work that needed to be done. That meant we didn't have to split the roofing costs (estimated at £10k) but he knew what he was in for. Same end number, no arguing after the offer was accepted.
AJB88 said:
Phoned Vodafone today to start the house move. Both properties have Vodafone Gigafast (CityFibre) so should be as easy as switching? Nope.
Apparently I need to downgrade to normal BT line connection again at max speed 50 then upgrade after a month, resulting in a BT Openreach engineer needing to come out to install that line etc as old own removed it all when Gigafast was installed.
I've said no, I just want to switch from Gigafast 200 to Gigafast 200 (current owner has Gigafast 900)
I've just had similar with EE. Current owner has EE and has given notice to finish on the day they move out. I wanted to sign up with EE to start the day we move in (same day). Can't be done apparently. I can't place my order until the existing contract has ended, then I face up to 14 days before it's activated, so potentially two weeks with no broadband. Apparently I need to downgrade to normal BT line connection again at max speed 50 then upgrade after a month, resulting in a BT Openreach engineer needing to come out to install that line etc as old own removed it all when Gigafast was installed.
I've said no, I just want to switch from Gigafast 200 to Gigafast 200 (current owner has Gigafast 900)
But I can sign up to a BT deal now with no issues, yet BT and EE are the same company!
First time I've had to deal with this after 30 years with Virgin/Telewest and I can't believe how difficult they make it.
DaffyT4 said:
I've just had similar with EE. Current owner has EE and has given notice to finish on the day they move out. I wanted to sign up with EE to start the day we move in (same day). Can't be done apparently. I can't place my order until the existing contract has ended, then I face up to 14 days before it's activated, so potentially two weeks with no broadband.
But I can sign up to a BT deal now with no issues, yet BT and EE are the same company!
First time I've had to deal with this after 30 years with Virgin/Telewest and I can't believe how difficult they make it.
Yeh I got a helpful woman on the phone eventually she said its a nightmare when the new house is with the same supplier. Shes looking into me "taking over" the existing contract so it can carry on as normal.But I can sign up to a BT deal now with no issues, yet BT and EE are the same company!
First time I've had to deal with this after 30 years with Virgin/Telewest and I can't believe how difficult they make it.
Only issue is I'm on Gigafast 200 and he is on 500. I might have to pay the extra.
Frik said:
parakitaMol. said:
I don't think that is scummy at all
If I was that EA and I had numerous bookings already (inc cash buyers) and felt it would sell then I'd not waste your time by booking a viewing after a point when it was likely to be under offer.
If I was the vendor and had cash buyers I would choose them over you. I would also choose an offer from someone who had seen it than someone who hadn't.
Your time wasn't wasted by them, it was wasted by yourself, you didn't view when you should have done, it because you had more important things to do.
Yeah that's the way the market is at the moment. I'd rather not be in it, given the choice. We've been under offer for weeks but there's so little stock out there, although there do seem to be quite a few sales falling through. If I was that EA and I had numerous bookings already (inc cash buyers) and felt it would sell then I'd not waste your time by booking a viewing after a point when it was likely to be under offer.
If I was the vendor and had cash buyers I would choose them over you. I would also choose an offer from someone who had seen it than someone who hadn't.
Your time wasn't wasted by them, it was wasted by yourself, you didn't view when you should have done, it because you had more important things to do.
A house came up in our preferred areas yesterday. It wasn't great and toppy but there's been so little on we thought it best to have a look. EA laughed when we called and mentioned the house in question; it's all he's dealt with all day. Full set of bookings for today and he reckons it'll be gone by the weekend. Madness.
We looked round a budget stretching doer-upper in a not so great area a couple of weeks ago. 5 offers on the table, including 2 over the asking which was itself about 5% more than it was worth. People are getting desperate.
I'm sick to the back teeth of it - we had to buy our new place without selling or we would lose it. Now we have had 2 buyers pull out just before exchange for really stupid reasons.
Buy my place! solve all our worries
RizzoTheRat said:
Mental isn't it. We looked at one this morning that came on the market on Wednesday, and they want offers in by Thursday. We've got another one to look at on Friday but they're the first 2 places that look suitable that cropped up in over a month. We've put in offers on 3 so far for 7-8% over asking price and on the last one 4 people offered more than us. Currently renting and putting in about 15% deposit so should be a reasonably attractive proposition to someone who wants to move fast. We're seeing a few places come back on the market which makes me wonder if people are offering too high and then being refused a mortgage.
A 15% deposit probably won’t be seen as golden right now. My deposit is 65%, and that wasn’t good enough for a couple of my first attempts. One was only interested in a cash sale, and was willing to hold out for it too, the other one still thought a buyer with a 65% deposit was too much of a risk for them to engage with. The point about over offering is a good one too. If the lenders surveyor disagrees with the offer, it could mean that either the buyer has to fill the extra gap created, from their own pocket, or renegotiate with the vendor ( good luck with that at the moment).Edited by Maximus_Meridius101 on Wednesday 9th June 01:48
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