Is anyone moving now?

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leef44

4,387 posts

153 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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ClaphamGT3 said:
essayer said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Monday's wheeze was to slip into the fixtures and fittings schedule that she's taking the induction hob and the built in ovens.
Yeah that's bang out of order isn't it? I could maybe understand a range cooker but built in stuff.. unbelievable.
Just had a call from the agent. She cant believe we are bullying her like this apparently - don't we know what she paid for these appliances only two years ago.

No one's being bullied love; we haven't exchanged so you don't have to sell and we don't have to buy
If she changes the agreement terms and is now taking appliances which were part of the deal, don't you just renegotiate the price? She can take 1000 pound equipment and knock one thousand of the agreed price.

kingston12

5,480 posts

157 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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ClaphamGT3 said:
Just had a call from the agent. She cant believe we are bullying her like this apparently - don't we know what she paid for these appliances only two years ago.

No one's being bullied love; we haven't exchanged so you don't have to sell and we don't have to buy
Did the agent tell you that as an attempt to get you to change your mind, or do they realise how unreasonable their client is being and are siding more with you?

kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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Backagain said:
C70R said:
I think a lot of vendors are in for a rude awakening over the next few months.
I think a lot of prospective buyers are too. If the surveyor working for the lender thinks the property doesn’t constitute worthwhile risk ( it’s overpriced for example). They will say so, and if they deem it to be so overpriced, or there’s something about it, that the surveyor thinks will take it outside of the lender’s lending criteria, the surveyors seem to be increasingly willing to put a zero value on properties at the moment ( effectively rendering it unmortgageable ). There seems to be an increase in jitters from mainstream lenders at present.
Purchaser of our place had their mortgage approved today - final enquiries now outstanding but looks like we're getting there on the sale

ClaphamGT3

11,299 posts

243 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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kingston12 said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Just had a call from the agent. She cant believe we are bullying her like this apparently - don't we know what she paid for these appliances only two years ago.

No one's being bullied love; we haven't exchanged so you don't have to sell and we don't have to buy
Did the agent tell you that as an attempt to get you to change your mind, or do they realise how unreasonable their client is being and are siding more with you?
Whilst one should never put too much on what an agent tells you, I do genuinely think that they think she's mad

Shnozz

27,472 posts

271 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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gfreeman said:
I just cannot get my head around some peoples attitude - the fixtures and fittings list made me chuckle - of course I'm not taking the kitchen curtains!!! they are about 15 years old and ste! keep 'em! In fact none of the curtains/blinds fit and buggered if I am getting any altered that might fit the new place... In any event the new place ha all cutains/blind left in too...
Funny isn't it. Curtains and blinds made to measure and people take them with them. Think its an older generation thing mind as my parents have just done exactly that.

Amazes me when I was viewing properties abroad and was commonplace to take your kitchen with you.

essayer

9,064 posts

194 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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Our buyers made an offer but thought they were being clever by insisting we left all the light fittings. Little did they realise we were moving to a completely different style of property (so none of them would have fit) and we'd have had to replace them with roses/cheap fittings anyway.

"Sure, I guess we could throw them in.."

RanchoGrande

1,151 posts

169 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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Isn't the whole point of the fixtures and fittings list that the vendor tells you what they are leaving? In the case of the hob, was it really written in the sales particulars that they were included?

I wouldn't lose a house I loved over an induction hob. These things often end up getting petty, especially when one of the parties is determined to "win"


RizzoTheRat

25,155 posts

192 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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Shnozz said:
Amazes me when I was viewing properties abroad and was commonplace to take your kitchen with you.
And the light fittings (leaving bare wires rather than fitting a basic rose), and even taking floor coverings is pretty common here.

Bam89

632 posts

101 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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cayman-black said:
Sorry to hear this Bam , big offers are not uncommon right now but this will slow imo . On offers above i would probably go 5k-10k but no more.
Thanks, it was massively disappointing but on reflection a few days later it just wasn't meant to be. If we'd gone any higher we'd probably be overstretching ourselves, and in all honesty if we were spending that much then I would expect a bit more for my money looking at it objectively

gfreeman

1,734 posts

250 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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RanchoGrande said:
Isn't the whole point of the fixtures and fittings list that the vendor tells you what they are leaving? In the case of the hob, was it really written in the sales particulars that they were included?

I wouldn't lose a house I loved over an induction hob. These things often end up getting petty, especially when one of the parties is determined to "win"
Don't forget - the sales particulars are a guide and carry no legal weight as far as I know... that is why there is the antiquated Fixtures and Fittings list in the legal pack.

Place we are buying has all sorts in the particulars that I could see were inaccurate or didn't comply with planning/building regs. Biggest one was the size of plot which might have been accurate if the owner of the property had not previously sold off a plot of land a couple of years ago! All revealed during the legals and then up to me whether we wanted to continue. As most of it just confirmed our suspicions we were happy to carry on... not ecstatic but happy...

To be fair on the owner he was not that sure about a lot of the issues and did offer that if we weren't happy he would understand...

Davey S2

13,092 posts

254 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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Well after having accepted an offer on our house months ago we're pulling out as we can't find anywhere to buy.

Going to wait for 12 months and see whether things have settled down next year.

leef44

4,387 posts

153 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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Davey S2 said:
Well after having accepted an offer on our house months ago we're pulling out as we can't find anywhere to buy.

Going to wait for 12 months and see whether things have settled down next year.
The free stamp duty market disruptor has served no purpose. Pump up the market temporarily then kill it for a year.

I think a lot of people who planned to sell now will just have nowhere to move to and decide to suspend for a year. I'm looking to buy at the moment but cannot find anywhere and even if I did, I could not be confident that the vendor will find somewhere and will eventually pull out.

bennno

11,633 posts

269 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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Davey S2 said:
Well after having accepted an offer on our house months ago we're pulling out as we can't find anywhere to buy.

Going to wait for 12 months and see whether things have settled down next year.
Quite common, we agreed to buy 3 but vendors couldn’t secure an onward purchase.

Dependent on whether you were trading up or down you might be in a better place next year.

bodhi

10,478 posts

229 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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Sounds like things are progressing for us at the moment - mortgage valuation was done on Monday and the lender has agreed the asking price, and our surveyor went in at the same time. A couple of small issues to keep an eye on - damp on the ground floor and a couple of missing tiles, but nothing you wouldn't expect on a 90 year old house. Refurbishment has all been done to a high standard, and he mentioned it was in better condition than a few new builds he's seen, so all good on that front.

Only slight concern is our solicitor is still awaiting the contract pack, apparently the seller hasn't signed one of the documents which is holding things up currently. Given the sellers are going through a divorce I'm happy to be patient at this point.

nick30

1,567 posts

171 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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Congrats bodhi. We are progressing well still early days. Have 9 interested parties and that’s without the floor plan and photos which were done today, hopefully it will be live by the end of the week so I can put a serious offer on a house I am interested in now.

Blib

44,026 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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As we now spend 95% of our time in Suffolk and MrsB retires in October, we're downsizing our London house in Richmond and using the proceeds to buy a cottage in East Sheen and a flat in North London to rent out.

We've had bids accepted on both cottage and flat and the house photos, floor plan and EPC have been done today.

There's very little on the market in our area. The house hits all of the location criteria, especially as it's within the very small catchment area of the local, well regarded, junior school.

So, everything is in order for a swift, pain free trio of transactions.

What could possibly go wrong?


Evanivitch

20,061 posts

122 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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Davey S2 said:
Well after having accepted an offer on our house months ago we're pulling out as we can't find anywhere to buy.

Going to wait for 12 months and see whether things have settled down next year.
You don't live in Bridgend per chance?

[ETA] Thought you might be connected to a house a friend was buying, but as your home is relatively new build it's not the case.

Edited by Evanivitch on Wednesday 11th August 19:49

Pistonsquirter

329 posts

39 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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I'm about to install a cast iron roll top, I wonder if I can take it with me? It's free standing and on flexible connections after all.. hehe

nick30

1,567 posts

171 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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Pistonsquirter said:
I'm about to install a cast iron roll top, I wonder if I can take it with me? It's free standing and on flexible connections after all.. hehe
I am taking my wood burner I only had installed in December. You like it you keep it!

ooo000ooo

2,530 posts

194 months

Wednesday 11th August 2021
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Filling in the online form for the decision in principal the other day, I quoted my income to the penny, didn't realize it was only interested in pounds and made it look like I was on a multi million income. I also misunderstood a question about house insurance so told them my annual insurance would be 100k.
As my wife is from outside the UK apparently there was a question about diplomatic immunity I didn't notice.
Unsurprisingly it was referred lol