Is anyone moving now?

[TonyRPH]

beanoir78 said:

Having lived in properties that were 100’s of years old, I can assure you snagging on a new build is but a minor inconvenience in comparison.

And there is another area I avoid (were I able to even afford such a property!)

With special attention to listed buildings too!

[leef44]

TonyRPH said:

If ever there was a compelling reason not to buy a new build...

I really, really couldn't be arsed with all that crap, and then once you move in the snagging begins...

No thanks!

And the worst bit is they market it as a selling point that you don't have to be in a chain when you buy a new build, to give the illusion that delays don't exist.

[XCP]

My son put his house on the market last Thursday. 2nd viewing on Monday, accepted offer for asking price today. Fingers firmly crossed....

[LuckyThirteen]

Patch1875 said:

We get our keys a week on Friday. Found out the removal company can’t do that day it would have to be the Monday so we went back asking if it could be the Thursday instead.

Bearing in mind they know we are in air b&b and the cats are in a cattery it’s turns out that they are moving 2 houses in before us on the Thursday even though we were first to reserve and promised our house would be the first completed so we are stuck with getting the keys on the Friday and not moving in to the Monday.

Just a note for you, and others.
If you're in storage then it's worth bearing in mind that movers have a very much unwritten, and not spoken about policy;

No moves out of store on the busiest days

Most Fridays, last Thur&Fri of the month. Likely the last wed/Thur/Fri of July and August. Also the last 2 or 3 working days of December (conveyancers shut before movers so push the move out of store into the dead days immediately prior to Christmas)

Also, the Friday before any School Holiday is a dead cert for this. Also the Thur before a bank hol Friday.

Also, much of the last week of a quarter. These weeks are known as 'new build weeks'. The house builders drive completions for these weeks. Also not helped by conveyancers and estate agents herding, bribing and shoving completions in by hook or by crook so they can get their commission in.

Movers broadly take a 'sorry, we're full that day' line to moves out of store on all these days. This being due to those days there being more people moving than movers available. Why put a move out of store in on a day you can overfill, when you can just force it to wait to a quieter day........

Don't blame the movers, blame builders and Conveyancers.

Edited by LuckyThirteen on Thursday 23 March 04:59

[Patch1875]

LuckyThirteen said:

Just a note for you, and others.
If you're in storage then it's worth bearing in mind that movers have a very much unwritten, and not spoken about policy;

No moves out of store on the busiest days

Most Fridays, last Thur&Fri of the month. Likely the last wed/Thur/Fri of July and August. Also the last 2 or 3 working days of December (conveyancers shut before movers so push the move out of store into the dead days immediately prior to Christmas)

Also, the Friday before any School Holiday is a dead cert for this. Also the Thur before a bank hol Friday.

Also, much of the last week of a quarter. These weeks are known as 'new build weeks'. The house builders drive completions for these weeks. Also not helped by conveyancers and estate agents herding, bribing and shoving completions in by hook or by crook so they can get their commission in.

Movers broadly take a 'sorry, we're full that day' line to moves out of store on all these days. This being due to those days there being more people moving than movers available. Why put a move out of store in on a day you can overfill, when you can just force it to wait to a quieter day........

Don't blame the movers, blame builders and Conveyancers.

Edited by LuckyThirteen on Thursday 23 March 04:59

No issues with the removal company all the blame is with the builder who have been hopeless.

Week tomorrow for the keys (maybe) still no definite confirmation yet and zero updates even after promising weekly ones a few weeks ago.

[Mr Whippy]

leef44 said:

TonyRPH said:

If ever there was a compelling reason not to buy a new build...

I really, really couldn't be arsed with all that crap, and then once you move in the snagging begins...

No thanks!

And the worst bit is they market it as a selling point that you don't have to be in a chain when you buy a new build, to give the illusion that delays don't exist.

All the people I know involved in a new build purchase in the last few years faced delays of months.

I had a long stop date a whole year after the move in date I’d been suggested was likely.


The rules need to change really.
No sale until they’re finished. That’s resolve snags, delays, and all the other consumer side issues overnight.
The current weighting of negotiating advantage is all on the builder/seller which is obviously abused by businesses at a consumers disadvantage.

[Rhyss]

So after 4 months we finally completed our sale on Tuesday
Everything is now in storage awaiting completion of our purchase on the 4th. Relieved is an understatement!

... Although the buyers have already been asking my EA questions such as "Why didn't he install a new garden gate?" and "Did he install the fencing or the previous owners?"

[Greshamst]

Vendor’s upward chain property is a probate property. Have asked for more information but all the estate agent will give us is that it’s “early stages”.

Avoid, or go for it?
I hear probate can take 9 months+ which would mean us moving into temp accomodation for 3 months if so…

[Flooble]

Greshamst said:

Vendor’s upward chain property is a probate property. Have asked for more information but all the estate agent will give us is that it’s “early stages”.

Avoid, or go for it?
I hear probate can take 9 months+ which would mean us moving into temp accomodation for 3 months if so…

Go for it - the speed at which most conveyancers (don't) move is such that it probably won't be as big a delay as you might think.

[Sheepshanks]

Greshamst said:

Vendor’s upward chain property is a probate property. Have asked for more information but all the estate agent will give us is that it’s “early stages”.

Avoid, or go for it?
I hear probate can take 9 months+ which would mean us moving into temp accomodation for 3 months if so…

Have you met the vendors - how pushy did they seem, and might they be prepared to vacate early to keep the sale to you?

For a straightforward esate probate can be done very quickly - I did one a couple of years that was a month from start to finish. Although people are saying there's delays in the probate offices at the moment. There's also a school of thought that it's perfectly normal for it to take a year, especially if a solicitor is dealing with it.

Edited by Sheepshanks on Thursday 23 March 22:00

[Chris Type R]

Sheepshanks said:

Have you me the vendors - how pushy did they seem, and might they be prepared to vacate early to keep the sale to you?

For a straightforward esate probabte can be done very quickly - I did one a couple of years that was a month from start to finish. Although people are saying there's delays in the probate offices at the moment. There's also a school of thought that it's perfectly normal for it to take a year, especially if a solicitor is dealing with it.

If the probate office is anything like Land Registry is currently, there's a good chance it'll drag on.

[Greshamst]

Sheepshanks said:

Have you me the vendors - how pushy did they seem, and might they be prepared to vacate early to keep the sale to you?

Briefly. He’s a 90 year old moving from the old family home to a retirement flat.
The ex owner of said retirement flat died.
I don’t think there’s any scope for the old boy to vacate early.

The house ticks a lot of boxes. But our buyer needs to be in by 1st Sept. And the thought of still not having this whole thing sorted by Xmas is not one that fills me with joy. Or having to find temp accom/ storage etc.

House would need some work, I’d much rather get that done in summer than winter.

However if probate moved quickly then I’d be happy as Larry.

[Flooble]

Greshamst said:

Sheepshanks said:

Have you me the vendors - how pushy did they seem, and might they be prepared to vacate early to keep the sale to you?

Briefly. He’s a 90 year old moving from the old family home to a retirement flat.
The ex owner of said retirement flat died.
I don’t think there’s any scope for the old boy to vacate early.

The house ticks a lot of boxes. But our buyer needs to be in by 1st Sept. And the thought of still not having this whole thing sorted by Xmas is not one that fills me with joy. Or having to find temp accom/ storage etc.

House would need some work, I’d much rather get that done in summer than winter.

However if probate moved quickly then I’d be happy as Larry.

Don't forget that if it's just him, on his own, you could come to some other arrangement with you all living together in the family home until the probate is sorted. It would be messy, and you'd want to be watertight on the end game, but I have heard of people doing things like that (albeit not living in the same place - they "rented" the house they were buying until the probate came through.)

[treetops]

beambeam1 said:

treetops said:

The golden area is the rectangle inside of:

Kaimes Road across to Drumbrae and then Caroline Tearrace down to St John Road.

Absolutely red hot for sales. Hugely desirable place to be. Excellent Primary and Secondary schools. Ease of access to Airport and road links. 15mins to city centre. All supermarket shops on your doorstep. Very good housing stock and makes Murrayfield which has realistically zero amenities look hugely over valued.

Aye, just a shame what we fancy isn't available or in our budget. We really liked a large house near the end of Drum Brae North last year but it sold very quick and way past what we could manage - my wife still scowls at the new owners when driving past! It's genuinely a lovely part of town and I'll miss it.

It certainly is the gold zone around the area you describe, lovely homes too (friend's mother stays on Hillview Terrace). Have you seen 15 Hillview Drive? I would love to get my hands on it but it's a large renovation job that is. Owner is deceased now, I know some kind citizens helped do a clear out a while back but it was the ailing hoarder scenario so a lost cause and no family to help. The Ford Ka has been parked up so long a very small tree was growing behind it, blocking it in!

treetops said:

Forget the new builds out towards Cammo. One car space for a 4 bed house. Again no walkable amenities unless you want to walk along a very busy road. Endless building out that way. Huge asking prices. Fine for some but it’s as always Location…..

We have bypassed Cammo/West Craigs completely. Didn't like what you get for your money and developments such as Uphall and Calder too are just massive and unappealing. We have gone for one of the Dandara/Foxhall Gait homes in the end. Only 124 houses being built, reasonably close to Edinburgh but also closer to family in Broxburn/Fauldhouse which helps. I grew up next to Tornados and Typhoons so the airport won't bother me!

Anyway, house has been on since Friday. We were away all weekend but two viewings last night and one tonight. First couple have made an offer subject to survey on roof, second couple want another look during daylight and to see the attic before making an offer. Tonight's loved it too so won't be surprised but unsure what their budget/realistic purchase power is. Another viewing scheduled for Saturday but suspect we will go to a closing date soon.

Edited by beambeam1 on Tuesday 21st March 23:43

Edited by beambeam1 on Tuesday 21st March 23:44

I’m fairly sure the “Ka” house has been sold. In terms of cars it’s a “barn find” - but will need £££ to get it back to its best. It’ll make a superb house for a new family. So sad of course for the family of the previous owner.

Sounds very promising, all you need is one good offer and you’re away! I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you.

[johnnyBv8]

treetops said:

beambeam1 said:

treetops said:

Edinburgh is booming just now (personal experience).

Corstorphine is one of the hottest areas and is on the up and up again.

Brilliant, we are in Drum Brae. Always liked this part of town since I arrived at QMUC in 2002. It helped that 87% of students were female but no matter where I rented all over Edinburgh I just always liked it around Clermiston/Corstorphine/Drum Brae.

It has been booming for a while around here but we sadly can't compete with some of the offers over scenarios we have heard of. Folk we know in Park Grove got £81k over asking price but that was an investment company buying their 3-bed semi. Madness.

The golden area is the rectangle inside of:

Kaimes Road across to Drumbrae and then Caroline Tearrace down to St John Road.

Absolutely red hot for sales. Hugely desirable place to be. Excellent Primary and Secondary schools. Ease of access to Airport and road links. 15mins to city centre. All supermarket shops on your doorstep. Very good housing stock and makes Murrayfield which has realistically zero amenities look hugely over valued.

Just want to be far enough up from St John’s Road - noisy and polluted. We looked at 2 Kaimes Rd a couple of years ago and it was a bit too close for us.

[beambeam1]

treetops said:

I’m fairly sure the “Ka” house has been sold. In terms of cars it’s a “barn find” - but will need £££ to get it back to its best. It’ll make a superb house for a new family. So sad of course for the family of the previous owner.

Sounds very promising, all you need is one good offer and you’re away! I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you.

Oh, is it? Would be interesting to follow its renovation if so.

Closing date tomorrow, enough interest that the estate agent felt we should go for it, especially as we had an offer by Tuesday. There were a few more viewers scheduled for this weekend and beyond but largely in a chain. We're comfortable going ahead with a closing date and as you say, only takes one!

johnnyBv8 said:

Just want to be far enough up from St John’s Road - noisy and polluted. We looked at 2 Kaimes Rd a couple of years ago and it was a bit too close for us.

That sold for just over a million so yeah, you'd want to be a little bit further back from the road for that! It's a shame but Kaimes is becoming a bit of a rat run now from top to bottom and all the streets running onto it. It can get a bit silly at the top for parking too as everyone likes to access Corstorphine Hill from that entry point with their dogs. I'll miss Corstorphine Hill very much.

[johnnyBv8]

beambeam1 said:

That sold for just over a million so yeah, you'd want to be a little bit further back from the road for that! It's a shame but Kaimes is becoming a bit of a rat run now from top to bottom and all the streets running onto it. It can get a bit silly at the top for parking too as everyone likes to access Corstorphine Hill from that entry point with their dogs. I'll miss Corstorphine Hill very much.

It was a nice house but had a few other compromises- long front-only garden and a bit of an unknown of how affected it would be by the redevelopment of the hospital site which is right next to it. It took a while to sell and only went £25k over valuation, which at around 2.5% was very little when everything else was 15%+ over.

Edited by johnnyBv8 on Saturday 25th March 11:59

[Greshamst]

Flooble said:

Don't forget that if it's just him, on his own, you could come to some other arrangement with you all living together in the family home until the probate is sorted. It would be messy, and you'd want to be watertight on the end game, but I have heard of people doing things like that (albeit not living in the same place - they "rented" the house they were buying until the probate came through.)

Interesting, however I don’t think I’m too keen on living with a 90 year old stranger. That might be a tad awkward.

[beambeam1]

We have effectively sold the house! I'll believe it when keys are handed over but went to market last Friday, accepted an offer this afternoon.

It was the preferred buyers too, they felt much better placed than others financially and had a look at the property twice before proceeding.

[normalbloke]

beambeam1 said:

We have effectively sold the house! I'll believe it when keys are handed over but went to market last Friday, accepted an offer this afternoon.

It was the preferred buyers too, they felt much better placed than others financially and had a look at the property twice before proceeding.

Unfortunately, you’re still quite a way off from selling your house, the process has just started. I wish you well on the next 3 months of utter tedium.