I got wood

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bobski1

1,763 posts

103 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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LeadFarmer said:
Got my sheets from Wickes, they do 2m long sheets (which I didn't want to risk strapping to my roof bars) and 1m long (but not quite as wide), which fitted into my boot. I overlapped each sheet by 2 ridges, but you could do it with just 1 ridge overlap, it's only a log store. Knowing I was buying the smaller sheets I had to build my store with the correct angle roof for the 1m long sheets to overhand sufficiently.

When going to Wickes I took a tape measure and pulled the sheets off the shelf and laid them all out, overlapped, and double checked the measurements were correct.
Even though I can fit the 2m one in the big car I'm most likely to go for the 1m version too. The path is currently 600mm and I've got some small paving slabs to put down to extend it to around 1m. I'll overhang the front by 50mm and have a gap at the rear of 50mm max so it gives me a store depth of 900mm which is very big considering the logs can only be a max of 300mm for the burner.

bobski1

1,763 posts

103 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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Has anybody got a supplier of wood based around Oxfordshire. The guy I used last time has gone MIA so would like to get a tonne in time for Autumn. Happy to take seasoned logs to chop myself or already split

jagnet

4,095 posts

201 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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Today I discovered that there's limits to how rustic I want my wood shed to be:



At least it's empty.
But that's the old skin, which means that it's now bigger.
Run away, run away!

aparna

1,156 posts

36 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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Quick question if anyone is inclined, I'm on a flexible gas tarif. I'm wondering what is likely to be the approx crossover price per ton of wood versus estimated gas prices this winter, to heat my home with a boiler stove?

If that makes sense?

snowandrocks

1,054 posts

141 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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I've seen 4kwh/Kg as a rough estimate for the heat output from burning dry firewood. Sounds about right to me based on what my stove can burn running flat out at it's rated capacity.

How much are you paying for gas? If you assume 4p per KWH then, assuming my arithmetic is right, your firewood needs to cost less than £160 per tonne.

Also worth bearing in mind that 1000kg of dry firewood is almost 4 cubic metres if it's just loosely piled.

Edited by snowandrocks on Wednesday 22 September 12:38

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

130 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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jagnet said:
Today I discovered that there's limits to how rustic I want my wood shed to be:



At least it's empty.
But that's the old skin, which means that it's now bigger.
Run away, run away!
Took me a while to work out what I was looking at. What kind of snake do you think it is? Grass snake?

S6PNJ

5,157 posts

280 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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aparna said:
Quick question if anyone is inclined, I'm on a flexible gas tariff. I'm wondering what is likely to be the approx crossover price per ton of wood versus estimated gas prices this winter, to heat my home with a boiler stove?

If that makes sense?
This was last updated in May 21, but it should give you a starting point and you can always update the figures for your pricing.
https://nottenergy.com/resources/energy-cost-compa...

jagnet

4,095 posts

201 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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LeadFarmer said:
jagnet said:
Today I discovered that there's limits to how rustic I want my wood shed to be:



At least it's empty.
But that's the old skin, which means that it's now bigger.
Run away, run away!
Took me a while to work out what I was looking at. What kind of snake do you think it is? Grass snake?
I'm hoping so biggrin

It's about a metre long, so by my reckoning it's too long to be an adder. Whether the snakes know that or not I couldn't say. Been plenty of baby adders around the last month which are quite sweet, but snakes > 1 metre, not so much.

Magooagain

9,909 posts

169 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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jagnet said:
Today I discovered that there's limits to how rustic I want my wood shed to be:



At least it's empty.
But that's the old skin, which means that it's now bigger.
Run away, run away!
Western whip snake maybe.

Tango13

8,398 posts

175 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2021
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Last year one of my neighbours built his own house, I made the mistake of asking if he wanted rid of a couple of old pallets he had...

This is the 4th or 5th time I've come home to this sight this year



I think the other self builders down the road are dumping their pallets on me too hehe

jet_noise

5,630 posts

181 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Lidl isle of dreams has a chainsaw for £80 should you feel lucky.
Which? says effective but heavy and vibratory.

beedj

433 posts

212 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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PushedDover said:
I’ve used the same too for the field shelter and a lean too.

Wrecks saws trying to cut I found, so used a cutting disc instead
Give the saw a generous spray of wd40 or gt85 etc - makes cutting a lot easier and stops the saw getting clagged up with bitumen

beambeam1

1,006 posts

42 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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Thanks to this post:

LeadFarmer said:
I used these corrugated panels as they are cheap and instant, just need screwing down with their own fixings, but shed felt could also be used. but you'd need a solid timber roof to nail it to....

I was finally inspired to tackle my own log store plans. Neighbours on the left of this photo had their conservatory taken down and their extension extended 18 months back. In order for the builders to work they had to take down some of the fencing and operate from our garden. Replacing the fencing as it was would have meant a small gap at its widest narrowing down to a very small point against their extension wall. Instead, the builders just closed the gap against the corner of the extension with neighbours and my agreement. But if left two large and well set fence posts still upstanding...









I've plans to tidy it up a bit and paint it the same colour as the fencing but after torrential rain in Edinburgh on Saturday I am pleased to report it did it's job and especially so with regards to water running down the rear against the neighbouring wall.

Harry Flashman

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19,283 posts

241 months

Monday 8th November 2021
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All the wood I cut and stacked a year ago is bloody soaking after our washout of a summer. Even the kiln dried stuff I stored in the log stores is now more moist than it was (and significantly) than when I bought it.

More dried wood shall be ordered and stuck in the house. Sod this.

beambeam1

1,006 posts

42 months

Monday 8th November 2021
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Would it not be worth checking the kiln stuff with a moisture content tester first? That's if they can be trusted as a reliable reading.

Harry Flashman

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19,283 posts

241 months

Monday 8th November 2021
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beambeam1 said:
Would it not be worth checking the kiln stuff with a moisture content tester first? That's if they can be trusted as a reliable reading.
I did!

eps

6,272 posts

268 months

Monday 8th November 2021
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Harry Flashman said:
All the wood I cut and stacked a year ago is bloody soaking after our washout of a summer. Even the kiln dried stuff I stored in the log stores is now more moist than it was (and significantly) than when I bought it.

More dried wood shall be ordered and stuck in the house. Sod this.
Not covered in any way or not enough ventilation? Our stuff is fine - under my makeshift shelter made from some old post and rail fence wood. Although it does get a lot of wind and sun as it is quite open.

S6PNJ

5,157 posts

280 months

Monday 8th November 2021
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Harry Flashman said:
Even the kiln dried stuff I stored in the log stores is now more moist than it was (and significantly) than when I bought it.
Kiln dried wood is drier than the 'average background' moisture content for the UK, so any kiln dried wood left in the open will gradually absorb moisture until it reaches the ambient moisture level of the outside air it is sat in. I used to have a chart for worldwide locations and average background moisture - but I can't find it at the moment - I shall keep looking.

Found it - or something like it...

https://www.esf.edu/wus/documents/EMCofWoodFPL268....

Go to page 12 for England and 13 for Ireland, Scotland and Wales

Edited by S6PNJ on Monday 8th November 09:59

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

242 months

Monday 8th November 2021
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Wood wants to be at equilibrium moisture content with it's surroundings. If you're buying dry wood then storing it in a damp atmosphere then you're pretty much wasting the time and money it cost to dry it.

rustyuk

4,568 posts

210 months

Monday 8th November 2021
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I've come to conclusion that pallets are more hassle than they are worth. Unless of course you enjoy spending all weekend cutting them up.

In respect of differing fuel costs we have used Gas, Coal and Wood. In winter I have spent £10 a day on coal, can easily burn through £160 worth of wood. I don't think I've ever used more than £100 worth of gas.

That's with using Gas for cooking and heating water when using wood or coal for heating up the house.