Neighbourly Issues

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hotchy

4,454 posts

125 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Narcisus said:
Ziplobb said:
Don’t know what you do for a living but surely taking time off of work and labouring yourself is cheaper than earning £800 to give someone else to do the same thing ?
Earn my £800 and pay for the labouring while I sit back with a beer.... That’s why I work hard so I can pay someone else to do it !
I'll pop down for a day for 750.

Meeten-5dulx

2,559 posts

55 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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NorthDave said:
Personally I would take him a bottle of wine and apologise for any issue. Tell him you have sorted another way to do the works and even though it costs a bit more it isn't an issue. It's more important you get on with your neighbours.

Then once I had the moral high ground I would f##k him over at the first opportunity. :-)
Took the words out of my mouth.

Stand taller than him and when he comes seeking a favour, string him along till the very last minute.
That'll teach him...

But till then, take a day off work, get some mates round with some cold beers available and save the £800 . After that enjoy your garden and wait for cockwomble neighbour to come asking for your assistance.....

Edited by Meeten-5dulx on Monday 6th July 19:21

BoggoStump

315 posts

48 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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If he had a change of mind, its his drive and i think we can all agree about his concern with the driveway sinking.

To get revenge, take the fence away and plant a hedge.

langtounlad

780 posts

170 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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You just need a bigger HIAB vehicle as pictured above. We regularly use such a vehicle for lifting structural steel beams over houses when building extensions etc. Cost for a couple of hours use will be approx £300 - £350.

crofty1984

15,830 posts

203 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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BoggoStump said:
To get revenge, take the fence away and plant a hedge.
Oh I like this.

Flumpo

3,685 posts

72 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Sorry to hear your neighbour is being a dick.

But the £800 sounds high, what needs carrying back there? 2/3 tons of type 1 mot and the same again in sand?

With a micro digger with the bucket on and a building site spec barrow that’s a days work between 2 guys without breaking a sweat.

People who do that lifting day in day out would look at that as a tiny job.

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

204 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I’d just take the neighbour out the equation

The landscapers want to work smarter /not harder so have priced the hard work high to encourage you to get Dave next door to play ball . As before I’d go out my way to help my neighbours but would be hesitant to let unknown trades to mess around with a digger and building supplies on my drive

Get on the local chav page on Facebook , offer £50 for a mornings work in cash and they will be biteing your hand off like a Rottweiler on viagra


CAPP0

19,533 posts

202 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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QuartzDad said:
In your shoes I would be sorely tempted irrespective of cost...

I'm the sort who would want to go down this route too! Is there any restriction to right of way above ground level?

Europa1

10,923 posts

187 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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CAPP0 said:
QuartzDad said:
In your shoes I would be sorely tempted irrespective of cost...

I'm the sort who would want to go down this route too! Is there any restriction to right of way above ground level?
I'd be tempted to go a step further, and say bugger the expense: don't scrimp on a delivery lorry with an on board crane that can just about reach on a stretch, don't demean your property with a succession of sweaty manual labourers struggling down the side of your house.

Get a normal delivery lorry, and hire a proper, full on, mobile crane to lift the stuff from nowhere near his drive into your back garden.

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

233 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Europa1 said:
CAPP0 said:
QuartzDad said:
In your shoes I would be sorely tempted irrespective of cost...

I'm the sort who would want to go down this route too! Is there any restriction to right of way above ground level?
I'd be tempted to go a step further, and say bugger the expense: don't scrimp on a delivery lorry with an on board crane that can just about reach on a stretch, don't demean your property with a succession of sweaty manual labourers struggling down the side of your house.

Get a normal delivery lorry, and hire a proper, full on, mobile crane to lift the stuff from nowhere near his drive into your back garden.
If you're going to go to that expense you might as well go the whole hog



boxy but good

2,811 posts

144 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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otolith said:
Bird feeders and an elderberry tree.
Is that the new one by KT Tunstall ?

Gareth79

7,628 posts

245 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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CAPP0 said:
QuartzDad said:
In your shoes I would be sorely tempted irrespective of cost...

I'm the sort who would want to go down this route too! Is there any restriction to right of way above ground level?
From the reading of this, no you would not be allowed to crane materials over somebody else's garden without permission:
https://www.tanfieldchambers.co.uk/2018/01/22/can-...

I'd imagine any reputable operator wouldn't do it without being certain all the occupiers are aware and agree? All you need is a child to run down to their wendy house at the same time as a paving slab comes loose...

InitialDave

11,856 posts

118 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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He could crane it over the other neighbours' gardens with their permission, which would no doubt in some way still annoy matey, without him actually being able to do anything about it.

Meeten-5dulx

2,559 posts

55 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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InitialDave said:
He could crane it over the other neighbours' gardens with their permission, which would no doubt in some way still annoy matey, without him actually being able to do anything about it.
And we're he to say no, he would reveal himself to be a while new level of fktard.... rage

Remember, revenge is sweet....

TA14

12,722 posts

257 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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InitialDave said:
He could crane it over the other neighbours' gardens with their permission, which would no doubt in some way still annoy matey, without him actually being able to do anything about it.
Yes but it would be difficult for the driver to back the truck in there around the corner with parked cars:
romeogolf said:

acer12

960 posts

173 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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DanL said:
Lateral thinking - you state your neighbour with the gate has right of access. Could you go via their gate and a side panel from the fence, rather than an end panel?
Possibly a bit harsh to drag the neighbour into this, at the end of the day they will be the ones who need to continue to access (legally) their rear gate using the problematic neighbours drive while the OP enjoys their garden.

The neighbour may feel obliged to help their next door neighbour and not want to / be strong enough to say no

Pit Pony

8,268 posts

120 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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I know (or rather saw photos of someone i didnt know) someone who built a sea going yacht in the back garden on their terrace and when finished had it craned over the top of the house.

dhutch

14,198 posts

196 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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acer12 said:
DanL said:
Lateral thinking - you state your neighbour with the gate has right of access. Could you go via their gate and a side panel from the fence, rather than an end panel?
Possibly a bit harsh to drag the neighbour into this, at the end of the day they will be the ones who need to continue to access (legally) their rear gate using the problematic neighbours drive while the OP enjoys their garden.

The neighbour may feel obliged to help their next door neighbour and not want to / be strong enough to say no
Or else, they don't actually have legal access, and you dont want to bugger that up for them!

langtounlad

780 posts

170 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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See my earlier post. We regularly use the big HIAB's to lift structural steels over buildings to reach the rear of properties where we are building extensions. Should easily be possible to park the lorry at the front of the OP's property and drop the load into the garden without going near Mr Grumpy next door. I do think Mr Grumpy has a reasonable concern regarding damage to his property but has been a pratt in only denying access at the 11th hour.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

122 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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I’ll be honest, on a new build I wouldn’t want a builders wagon on my crap drive. Odds are it’ll sink the blocks or rupture the drains that are probably a few mm deep and so on. More trouble than it’s worth.

As said labour of £800 is farcical. And I’m sorry you’ve got a garden the size of a pool table, what on Earth do you even need a digger in there for anyway that you couldn’t do by hand or with a wheelbarrow sized one ?

Over the years I’ve had extensions built on terraces, with everything hand balled through a house. I’ve even had pre built modular extensions craned over houses to drop onto the rear. Call me a miserable tight northern git but I’m struggling to see how this can’t be solved from within yr own property.

I wouldn’t fall out with neighbours either, you’ll see them forever and you’re all on top of each other too. I’d clear the air personally and think of other solutions.