Any idea how much a kitchen can cost?
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Mark Benson said:
One visit to a Wren showroom was enough to send me to the DIY Kitchens website, we ended up with a nicer (IMO) kitchen for half the price once all the 'extras' had been taken into account by Wren.
OP, I fitted ours myself, with the help of our joiner for a day to do the worktop (we were skint at the time and went for a white melamine top rather than stone) but the actual installation, including plumbing is just a case of fitting stuff together and making sure everything is level.
I assume the plumbing will be fairly straight forward assuming I'd be putting things in a similar place to where they are now? OP, I fitted ours myself, with the help of our joiner for a day to do the worktop (we were skint at the time and went for a white melamine top rather than stone) but the actual installation, including plumbing is just a case of fitting stuff together and making sure everything is level.
Mark Benson said:
DavidY said:
Andeh1 said:
This feels about right, for a wren/holdens types kitchen. Bit less for a homebase one, smidge more for a DIY Kitchens one..... But 3x or 4x that for a proper wood handcrafted solid wood jointed setup. Family member's is a thing of true beauty....tolerances involved are sufficient to make an engineer blush... But good greif twice the price & half the size of our kitchen!
Wren have 3 very distinct rangesBudget - very limited colours and cabinet range
Mid - base level carcases in range of sizes and colours
Top - large range of carcases/colours
Its quite cleverly marketed in that hardly any colours are shared, so if you like one colour or want a particular cabinet fitting you are often pushed up the range, and then with the interest free credit, it will only cost you this much extra sir.........
Their charges for fitting beyond the initial kitchen are quite eye watering, tiling/floors/plumbing/electrics etc.....and if you want a Wren supplied quartz worktop..........
Certainly starts to price them well above Howdens/diy-kitchens etc
Edited by DavidY on Thursday 23 July 18:01
OP, I fitted ours myself, with the help of our joiner for a day to do the worktop (we were skint at the time and went for a white melamine top rather than stone) but the actual installation, including plumbing is just a case of fitting stuff together and making sure everything is level.
Although I'm now fitting my parents old kitchen down my pals work unit that has a 40 year one so I'll find out for myself if I could manage it. He doesnt care how it turns out since nobody lives there and it's just an old rotten dilapidated one currently.
Edited by hotchy on Friday 24th July 09:43
UTH said:
Is it naive to think I could choose my budget, go to one of the kitchen suppliers and get them to work to it and it won’t go over budget? Or is it like building works where everything goes well over budget and over time and nothing you can do about it?
Its tricky. Ive told this story on here more than once, but I went to Magnet and they quoted 18k, but is was 'sale time' so with 50% off cabinets it went down to 13k, excluding fitting.They were desperate for me to sign but I went somewhere else and they bettered a quote for similar kitchen. In the end, Magnet dropped to 8k. That was for cabinets and quartz worktops, splash backs but no appliances or fitting. Actually went with a slightly more expensive one in the end as we preferred it.
I think you have to play them off each other to some extent. I think I gave a rough budget but said it was more important to get what we wanted.
We're intending to renovate our kitchen when the virus allows (shielding), and one thing bothers us and that's extraction. Over the hob is easy, but the oven, as it's not going to be a built under type beneath the hob, is a problem. We shall have a built-in double oven much as we have already, but with some form of extractor to prevent the whole-house cooking smell phenomenon. When a oven door is opened when a roast is being done, a huge balloon of smelly steam belches out and careers across the ceiling. Our house is weird in that it is two-storey but the entire ground floor is basement and garage, so it is effectively a bungalow. That means that the roof space can get excessively moist through any ceiling holes for lights etc.
What does the PH collective recommend for outside vented (not recirculating) extraction from a whole room rather than just the hob. We also have a Gaggenau worktop flush fryer and grill with a downdraught extractor at the moment and it's obvious that downdraught is not very effective. Both the hob and the downdraught fans running full power really don't help a lot.
What does the PH collective recommend for outside vented (not recirculating) extraction from a whole room rather than just the hob. We also have a Gaggenau worktop flush fryer and grill with a downdraught extractor at the moment and it's obvious that downdraught is not very effective. Both the hob and the downdraught fans running full power really don't help a lot.
It’s truly staggering the difference in quotes on professionally fitted kitchen’s. I’m utterly crap at DIY and had no option when we did ours a couple of years ago.
Admittedly, it’s a swish hand built kitchen but the difference between the lowest and highest cost (for the same design and spec’) was over £100k!! In the end it made sense to use a firm in North Yorkshire who built and then installed the kitchen even though we’re in Berkshire..
Admittedly, it’s a swish hand built kitchen but the difference between the lowest and highest cost (for the same design and spec’) was over £100k!! In the end it made sense to use a firm in North Yorkshire who built and then installed the kitchen even though we’re in Berkshire..
ettore said:
It’s truly staggering the difference in quotes on professionally fitted kitchen’s. I’m utterly crap at DIY and had no option when we did ours a couple of years ago.
Admittedly, it’s a swish hand built kitchen but the difference between the lowest and highest cost (for the same design and spec’) was over £100k!! In the end it made sense to use a firm in North Yorkshire who built and then installed the kitchen even though we’re in Berkshire..
£100k? Ouch! Was that including some seriously pricey things like high end fittings and marble counter tops etc? Admittedly, it’s a swish hand built kitchen but the difference between the lowest and highest cost (for the same design and spec’) was over £100k!! In the end it made sense to use a firm in North Yorkshire who built and then installed the kitchen even though we’re in Berkshire..
UTH said:
£100k? Ouch! Was that including some seriously pricey things like high end fittings and marble counter tops etc?
Yes, I’m fussy about good quality fittings (even taps have to ‘feel’ right!) and we had a marble island which wasn’t cheap.It was the massive difference that struck me though - we specified most of it so they were basically like for like.
ettore said:
Yes, I’m fussy about good quality fittings (even taps have to ‘feel’ right!) and we had a marble island which wasn’t cheap.
It was the massive difference that struck me though - we specified most of it so they were basically like for like.
To confirm - the diffference between high and low bids was 100K? It was the massive difference that struck me though - we specified most of it so they were basically like for like.
Rude to ask, but presumably this is quite a grand affair, even at the 'low' end?
Edited by abzmike on Friday 24th July 11:27
ettore said:
UTH said:
£100k? Ouch! Was that including some seriously pricey things like high end fittings and marble counter tops etc?
Yes, I’m fussy about good quality fittings (even taps have to ‘feel’ right!) and we had a marble island which wasn’t cheap.It was the massive difference that struck me though - we specified most of it so they were basically like for like.
Will take some photos when I get home. I wouldn’t say it’s grand necessarily, it’s just a properly built (dovetail joints etc), quite funky kitchen using decent materials (marble, oak, American walnut, concrete, brick etc.).
We didn’t go with the cheapest either but he was definitely at the lower end!!
We didn’t go with the cheapest either but he was definitely at the lower end!!
I've become addicted to the room building tools ha ha
Plodding along with the DIY Kitchen one (the 3D view is annoyingly clunky and hard to navigate though) and just had a crack at the B&Q bathroom builder as well. £1,500 for a whole bathroom at B&Q sounds rather cheap to me, but maybe bathrooms are cheaper than I thought?
Plodding along with the DIY Kitchen one (the 3D view is annoyingly clunky and hard to navigate though) and just had a crack at the B&Q bathroom builder as well. £1,500 for a whole bathroom at B&Q sounds rather cheap to me, but maybe bathrooms are cheaper than I thought?
Looking good UTH.
Like with all things house, cost varies considerably especially considering what might and might not be included:
1) remove and dispose of old kitchen?
2) remove and replace floor?
3) radiators, UFH?
4) plastering, ceiling?
5) new lighting, more sockets etc?
6) installation of kitchen?
7) kitchen units?
8) appliances?
9) decorating?
10) worktops?
11) sockets and switches?
Like with all things house, cost varies considerably especially considering what might and might not be included:
1) remove and dispose of old kitchen?
2) remove and replace floor?
3) radiators, UFH?
4) plastering, ceiling?
5) new lighting, more sockets etc?
6) installation of kitchen?
7) kitchen units?
8) appliances?
9) decorating?
10) worktops?
11) sockets and switches?
We’re at the ‘design is almost finalised’ stage with Howdens and have just had a price through. Lamona appliances, all your standard kitchen stuff - oven/hob/dw/tall fridge/tall freezer, but no worktops - they’ve come back at 11k
The guys assuring me this is a ‘good’ rate, with little movement, but I’ve submitted the details to DIY for a comparison.
The guys assuring me this is a ‘good’ rate, with little movement, but I’ve submitted the details to DIY for a comparison.
bristolbaron said:
We’re at the ‘design is almost finalised’ stage with Howdens and have just had a price through. Lamona appliances, all your standard kitchen stuff - oven/hob/dw/tall fridge/tall freezer, but no worktops - they’ve come back at 11k
The guys assuring me this is a ‘good’ rate, with little movement, but I’ve submitted the details to DIY for a comparison.
Lamont appliances are crappy. You really want Bosch / neff / Siemens or zanussi / hotpoint if price main issue.induction not electric hob.The guys assuring me this is a ‘good’ rate, with little movement, but I’ve submitted the details to DIY for a comparison.
What’s on the other side of the wall with sink, if it’s an external wall there I’d swap over hob and sink to enable an extractor to be fitted.
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