Fitted Air conditioning

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chrisga

2,089 posts

187 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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chrisga said:
We have had a/c installed by a company we found through "Rated People". Decent reviews but turned out to be just a little more "cowboy" than I would have liked. Anyway long story short, the installation took place during January. Other than a demo of how to use it we didn't need the cooling until about the start of May. Turn it on and no cold air. Typical. And now we can't get hold of them. I took the cover off the outside unit to find this:



Any a/c engineers able to say that's the tell tale signs of the refrigerant leaking out? If so how much would I be looking at to get a re-gas and can any a/c company do it?
Finally got hold of the installer who came back and regassed the system. Claimed the unit had been knocked which caused the refrigerant to leak out but refilled and didn't charge.....

First really hot night sleeping with working bedroom a/c. So nice.

Flumpo

3,742 posts

73 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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fastbikes76 said:
matt666 said:
Could be using the Tuya back end, I’ve come across a couple of devices where they’ve taken the Tuya app and reskinned it with their logos etc. If you think about it it makes sense for smaller companies, why develop an app and maintain servers etc when you can license an established reliable platform.

The Fujitsu and Daikin apps I was looking at got poor reviews, and cost extra to boot.
This was standard with the kit. App is called Smart Life.




Yeah that’s the same app with the dongle, only my dongle was a dud!

Harry Flashman

19,347 posts

242 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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DIY split unit installed in the attic today. DIY job, so clearly I am going to die for daring to avoid the R32 industry tax.

Next job is to take power to the outside unit to avoid unsightly cables in the room.

Took my attic from an ugly 32C to a civilised 20C in very little time. Better still, leaving the room door open and turning on turbo mode meant a wash of cool air tricking down the stairs and cooling the first floor landing.

Cost of installation was a day off work.


Edited by Harry Flashman on Thursday 22 July 23:37

Harry Flashman

19,347 posts

242 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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Tuya app runs all my TCL and ElectriQ units very nicely, with Alexa voice control, to agree with some of the former posts.

Only issues with the cheap units I have bought so far is that their temp sensing can be a bit off...they can overcool a room and temp on the remote/app needs to be set a couple of degrees above where you actually want it...

OldGermanHeaps

3,830 posts

178 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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Diy installing a mitsubishi split 3.5kw system tomorrow, I will post some pics once its done. £500 for all the gear including a wifi module.
Cant wait to get rid of the noisy inefficient portable unit.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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We had the DIY units and they are very poor long term.

Earlier this year i had a couple of Daikins installed to replace the bedroom/lounge and the difference is very noticeable.

normalbloke

Original Poster:

7,450 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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Harry Flashman said:
DIY split unit installed in the attic today. DIY job, so clearly I am going to die for daring to avoid the R32 industry tax.

Next job is to take power to the outside unit to avoid unsightly cables in the room.

Took my attic from an ugly 32C to a civilised 20C in very little time. Better still, leaving the room door open and turning on turbo mode meant a wash of cool air tricking down the stairs and cooling the first floor landing.

Cost of installation was a day off work.


Edited by Harry Flashman on Thursday 22 July 23:37
You’re a bad man!

Sheepshanks

32,750 posts

119 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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Harry Flashman said:
Cost of installation was a day off work.
Brave admitting on here that you earn less than an air-con fitter! smile

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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Harry Flashman said:
Tuya app runs all my TCL and ElectriQ units very nicely, with Alexa voice control, to agree with some of the former posts.
Is this app compatible with other a/c brands?

matt666

445 posts

204 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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whoami said:
Is this app compatible with other a/c brands?
You can make anything that is controlled by IR or RF controllable by the Tuya app by getting an IR or RF blaster which can learn the commands from your remote and send them when you press the button in the app.

There's one example linked above but there's lots on Amazon.

Some brands, like Harry's, have a wifi module built in that integrates with the app with no need for any additional hardware. The big brands like Fujitsu and Daikin have a wifi option, which is expensive, and their own app, which doesn't work very well.

Harry Flashman

19,347 posts

242 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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Sheepshanks said:
Harry Flashman said:
Cost of installation was a day off work.
Brave admitting on here that you earn less than an air-con fitter! smile
I am no PH CEO type, it is true.

Harry Flashman

19,347 posts

242 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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Alucidnation said:
We had the DIY units and they are very poor long term.

Earlier this year i had a couple of Daikins installed to replace the bedroom/lounge and the difference is very noticeable.
This is actually good to know. What were the problems that developed?

Etazene chic

5,245 posts

120 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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I had an ElectriQ (TCL are identical, so are most of the random badge brands) and it was fine - eventually I changed to a Mitsubishi split, and then to a Mitsubishi multi split (I get them very cheap, and I am also a Mitsubishi air con fan boy) and there was no real difference in performance. I actually installed the old ElectriQ in my mum's house and it still works to this day.
It was made before the wifi apps became standard but she's an old bird so prefers a normal remote anyway, because it's something else to lose and oldies love losing stuff and claiming "It's vanished!".
Did you upsize your BTUs, Alucidation? I know two people who have put 12k BTU units in south facing bedrooms with loads of glass and they struggle a bit - I would always spec an 18k unit for that.

ChocolateFrog

25,273 posts

173 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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Harry Flashman said:
Tuya app runs all my TCL and ElectriQ units very nicely, with Alexa voice control, to agree with some of the former posts.

Only issues with the cheap units I have bought so far is that their temp sensing can be a bit off...they can overcool a room and temp on the remote/app needs to be set a couple of degrees above where you actually want it...
That seems to be the case with mine.

22/23 degrees on the unit seems to be ideal for us but I'm sure the actual temp of the room is more like 20/21.

ChocolateFrog

25,273 posts

173 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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Harry Flashman said:
Sheepshanks said:
Harry Flashman said:
Cost of installation was a day off work.
Brave admitting on here that you earn less than an air-con fitter! smile
I am no PH CEO type, it is true.
Having seen your house/garden and rough location if that was the case I'd be an AC fitter starting tomorrow.

laugh

Harry Flashman

19,347 posts

242 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
Harry Flashman said:
Sheepshanks said:
Harry Flashman said:
Cost of installation was a day off work.
Brave admitting on here that you earn less than an air-con fitter! smile
I am no PH CEO type, it is true.
Having seen your house/garden and rough location if that was the case I'd be an AC fitter starting tomorrow.

laugh
House is rented, and I lied about the location wink

Internet fantasist, me. smile

Etazene chic

5,245 posts

120 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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Maserati styled kit car, based on a Ford Ka.

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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matt666 said:
whoami said:
Is this app compatible with other a/c brands?
You can make anything that is controlled by IR or RF controllable by the Tuya app by getting an IR or RF blaster which can learn the commands from your remote and send them when you press the button in the app.

There's one example linked above but there's lots on Amazon.

Some brands, like Harry's, have a wifi module built in that integrates with the app with no need for any additional hardware. The big brands like Fujitsu and Daikin have a wifi option, which is expensive, and their own app, which doesn't work very well.
Thanks.

Neil_Sc

2,251 posts

207 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
Harry Flashman said:
Tuya app runs all my TCL and ElectriQ units very nicely, with Alexa voice control, to agree with some of the former posts.

Only issues with the cheap units I have bought so far is that their temp sensing can be a bit off...they can overcool a room and temp on the remote/app needs to be set a couple of degrees above where you actually want it...
That seems to be the case with mine.

22/23 degrees on the unit seems to be ideal for us but I'm sure the actual temp of the room is more like 20/21.
I don't think this is a 'cheap' unit issue, I have a Mitsubishi Electric R32 multi split which is outstanding and set at 23C last night, my room was 21.8C according to my bedside clock at 4 AM.

I'm pretty sure the manual says to set the required temperature 1-2 C above the desired room temperature.

fastbikes76

2,450 posts

122 months

Friday 23rd July 2021
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The temp sensor on most is at the top where they draw the air in, and naturally the highest place in the room… where all the hot air has risen to.

Around 2 degree variance on my units too.