Mini Floridian Remodel

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Stigproducts

1,730 posts

270 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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thanks for the thread, watching with interest and already I've learnt something that might save me a few bob!

h0b0

7,557 posts

195 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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Matt Harper said:
I'm not sure if this is aimed at me - but I can say that my daughter, who lives in Oviedo FL has just been quoted to build a 25000 gallon salt filtered marcite in-ground pool with stone deck paving and a shotgun enclosure for $58k.
That’s really useful, thank you. Up here they are talking between $50 and $125k more than that.

The Moose

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22,820 posts

208 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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h0b0 said:
Matt Harper said:
I'm not sure if this is aimed at me - but I can say that my daughter, who lives in Oviedo FL has just been quoted to build a 25000 gallon salt filtered marcite in-ground pool with stone deck paving and a shotgun enclosure for $58k.
That’s really useful, thank you. Up here they are talking between $50 and $125k more than that.
This is going off topic, however do you know what underlying construction they have to do? In some areas here they have to drive piles for a pool.

h0b0

7,557 posts

195 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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The Moose said:
This is going off topic, however do you know what underlying construction they have to do? In some areas here they have to drive piles for a pool.
No such complications. Dig hole, put liner in and then drain customers bank account.

The Moose

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22,820 posts

208 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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h0b0 said:
The Moose said:
This is going off topic, however do you know what underlying construction they have to do? In some areas here they have to drive piles for a pool.
No such complications. Dig hole, put liner in and then drain customers bank account.
What are they lining it with? Gold leaf?!

h0b0

7,557 posts

195 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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I think the liner is standard but to get the right level of salinity they use unicorn tears.

irocfan

40,152 posts

189 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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something for me to drool over later this evening

Matt Harper

6,613 posts

200 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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The Moose said:
Do y'all have a big HOA bill as well as the property tax? Or is it reasonable in your community?

To be honest with you, I admire your ability to tear crap out and put it all back together again. I'm not very good at all that...and even worse with a paint brush. I probably could do it if my life depended on it, but it'd take me many times longer than it should and I'd probably end up electrocuting myself while changing a faucet.

You can try to do stuff around here without permits but you get done in about 20 minutes so it's just not worth it. I'll talk more about the permitting process in a couple of posts time, probably.
No HOA - that would have been a dealbreaker for me. When I was first relocated here, I rented a house in Bay Hill, Orlando right on the golf course and backing on to Lake Tibet. Very swanky, but the HOA was akin to the Gestapo and the fees were outrageous.

Where I live now, (Belle Isle) is a tiny, incorporated city, just south of Orlando and west of Orlando International Airport and is situated on Lake Conway chain - 5 spring-fed, inter-connected lakes covering about 1800 acres. Property taxes are a bit stiff, but worth it to live in a very safe, well policed, pretty, heavily wooded neighborhood, with beautiful, clean lakes. There's a very popular charter school in the neighborhood, which also drives up costs.

Most of my neighbors work for Lockheed Martin or NASA, so when they say, "It ain't rocket science", they mostly speak from experience. My next-door-neighbor was the engineering lead on Apache Longbow and Arrowhead weapons targeting systems - I plague him with questions - most of which he is not permitted to answer, during our communal backyard cook-outs.

In terms of house-hitting, it's just so much easier to do it here. I can order pretty much ANYTHING I need for a project and because US house-building code and practices are so consistent and uniform everything tends to slot into place a lot easier than it did in my 100+ year old house in Yorkshire.

I also have lots of friends who are either tradesmen or seasoned bodgers, so plenty of expertise to fall back on when things start to go piss-shaped.

Keep going with this thread!

Matt Harper

6,613 posts

200 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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h0b0 said:
I think the liner is standard but to get the right level of salinity they use unicorn tears.
Pool construction varies a lot, depending on geological and climate considerations.
Down here in FL, vinyl/plastic liners are very rarely utilized - most pool construction here is by shotcrete onto a rebar 'cage' and skimmed with either marcite, gunite or Diamondbrite finishes.

One of my brothers lives in central Indiana and his pool is an in-ground steel framed box, with a vinyl liner and a sand filtration system.

I suspect it all has something to do with freeze/thaw - something we don't need to concern ourselves with down here.

bristolbaron

4,756 posts

211 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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The Moose said:
PushedDover said:
Looks Good OP.
Any Mozzies / Flying critters being next to the canal ?
We get a few bugs, but it's not too bad. Our island is surrounded by salt water plus they spray for mosquitos (from light aircraft/helicopters). I haven't been bitten here on the island for quite a long time. If you venture into the everglades at all, however, you'll get eaten alive in the summer. The dog park is next to a brackish lake which can get bad with big 'noseeums' or 'seeums' as I call them. They don't really hurt - just annoying.
I started reading through the thread earlier, then saw this and thought I’d check back in again:

https://www.fastcompany.com/90541839/florida-is-go...

Should help out a bit, just mutant bugs to contend with!

Great thread, keep it coming.

The Moose

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22,820 posts

208 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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bristolbaron said:
The Moose said:
PushedDover said:
Looks Good OP.
Any Mozzies / Flying critters being next to the canal ?
We get a few bugs, but it's not too bad. Our island is surrounded by salt water plus they spray for mosquitos (from light aircraft/helicopters). I haven't been bitten here on the island for quite a long time. If you venture into the everglades at all, however, you'll get eaten alive in the summer. The dog park is next to a brackish lake which can get bad with big 'noseeums' or 'seeums' as I call them. They don't really hurt - just annoying.
I started reading through the thread earlier, then saw this and thought I’d check back in again:

https://www.fastcompany.com/90541839/florida-is-go...

Should help out a bit, just mutant bugs to contend with!

Great thread, keep it coming.
Fascinating! They supposedly released a butt-load of dragonflies in our area to eat the skeeters. There's some debate as to whether it actually happened or not however there are more dragonflies here at the moment than I remember from 10-ish years back.

The Moose

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22,820 posts

208 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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Matt Harper said:
The Moose said:
Do y'all have a big HOA bill as well as the property tax? Or is it reasonable in your community?

To be honest with you, I admire your ability to tear crap out and put it all back together again. I'm not very good at all that...and even worse with a paint brush. I probably could do it if my life depended on it, but it'd take me many times longer than it should and I'd probably end up electrocuting myself while changing a faucet.

You can try to do stuff around here without permits but you get done in about 20 minutes so it's just not worth it. I'll talk more about the permitting process in a couple of posts time, probably.
No HOA - that would have been a dealbreaker for me. When I was first relocated here, I rented a house in Bay Hill, Orlando right on the golf course and backing on to Lake Tibet. Very swanky, but the HOA was akin to the Gestapo and the fees were outrageous.

Where I live now, (Belle Isle) is a tiny, incorporated city, just south of Orlando and west of Orlando International Airport and is situated on Lake Conway chain - 5 spring-fed, inter-connected lakes covering about 1800 acres. Property taxes are a bit stiff, but worth it to live in a very safe, well policed, pretty, heavily wooded neighborhood, with beautiful, clean lakes. There's a very popular charter school in the neighborhood, which also drives up costs.

Most of my neighbors work for Lockheed Martin or NASA, so when they say, "It ain't rocket science", they mostly speak from experience. My next-door-neighbor was the engineering lead on Apache Longbow and Arrowhead weapons targeting systems - I plague him with questions - most of which he is not permitted to answer, during our communal backyard cook-outs.

In terms of house-hitting, it's just so much easier to do it here. I can order pretty much ANYTHING I need for a project and because US house-building code and practices are so consistent and uniform everything tends to slot into place a lot easier than it did in my 100+ year old house in Yorkshire.

I also have lots of friends who are either tradesmen or seasoned bodgers, so plenty of expertise to fall back on when things start to go piss-shaped.

Keep going with this thread!
I guess some people are HOA people and some people aren't!! I'm also not one, however on our island here it's like a half-way house.

Maybe one of these days we'll get to actually meet in person instead of just swapping virtual messages!

The Moose

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22,820 posts

208 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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I'll be taking a break from updating for a couple of days. I have to do and pick my dog up. A quick, short trip to the middle of Alabama. Fortunately I have something reasonably comfortable and competent to do the journey in. Hopefully he doesn't mind slumming it...




Matt Harper

6,613 posts

200 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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The Moose said:
Maybe one of these days we'll get to actually meet in person instead of just swapping virtual messages!
I hope so. I work on Marco from time to time - high incidence of my company's customer demographic in your part of the state. Obviously the current situation has put the brakes on that to a degree - but I will certainly give you a shout next time I'm in Collier County.



PushedDover

5,621 posts

52 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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The Moose said:
I'll be taking a break from updating for a couple of days. I have to do and pick my dog up. A quick, short trip to the middle of Alabama. Fortunately I have something reasonably comfortable and competent to do the journey in. Hopefully he doesn't mind slumming it...



Wish him well - pokey boot for him to squeeze in.


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Polite M135 driver

1,853 posts

83 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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if that is yours you really have gone native.

irocfan

40,152 posts

189 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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The Moose said:
I guess some people are HOA people and some people aren't!! I'm also not one, however on our island here it's like a half-way house.
I must admit whilst I can see some positive about the whole HOA thing, I think on balance it would drive me totally nucking futs

The Moose

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22,820 posts

208 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Polite M135 driver said:
if that is yours you really have gone native.
Lol. Unfortunately it’s a rental.

This is mine:

The Moose

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22,820 posts

208 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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irocfan said:
The Moose said:
I guess some people are HOA people and some people aren't!! I'm also not one, however on our island here it's like a half-way house.
I must admit whilst I can see some positive about the whole HOA thing, I think on balance it would drive me totally nucking futs
As with everything in life, the people either make it or break it.

Squadrone Rosso

2,740 posts

146 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Nice property. Looks very similar to a place we rented in a gated community in Davenport - Providence.