Improve my entrance

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Skyedriver

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17,848 posts

282 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Looking for some ideas.
large area of gravel leads to this.
Concrete paving which despite cleaning never looks that good, steps which are not inviting and a miserable brown front door.
We are planning to renew the door (and replace the garage door to the left with it as it's in better condition than the garage one).

With the walls being "chalk white" and the woodwork dark brown the front door colour seems limited in choice. It will have more glass than present as the hall way is very dark so the colour is not so important I suppose.

The front door faces north, the concrete paving is often wet (west coast Scotland), the sun only reaches it early morning and therefore even more depressing than when dry. Replacing it with Yorkstone would look nice but past experience of north facing yorkstone is it turns green and slippy very quickly.
Decking would be the same and gets faded and tatty quickly. Yellow Bilau, does that lose colour?
Plastic decking looks plastic.
Block paving?

Could reduce the amount of paving and use more gravel, the gravel looks slightly more cheery than the hard surfaces.
Paint the steps?
Wouldn't mind raising the (reduced) hard paving area by say 150mm to lose the bottom step. (Done this at the rear where I've raised the previous crappy patio with Yorkstone (south facing).

The budget isn't limitless, but we want to get it right. It's becoming depressing every time you return home to see this. I've normally got a few ideas, my wife usually has 10x more.

Come on please, what's new?


Edited by Skyedriver on Thursday 25th February 19:26

R56Cooper

2,395 posts

223 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Hi, was there meant to be a pic?

Clifford Chambers

27,010 posts

183 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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I have (by the sounds of it) A similar problem, north facing, a bit dull and concrete slabs.

My solution which I'll implement this yr is planters and colourful pots. Any dull awkward surface can be improved. Pick plants that work with shade, evergreen ferns, hellebores, hostas, privet.

The big benefit is if something doesn't work, move it.


Edited by Clifford Chambers on Thursday 25th February 17:58

Matt Harper

6,618 posts

201 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Imagine it in your mind's eye and then make recommendations on how to improve it.

Skyedriver

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17,848 posts

282 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Pic now included

TBH it looks better without the photo.....

Skyedriver

Original Poster:

17,848 posts

282 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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R56Cooper said:
Hi, was there meant to be a pic?
Thank you, can't help being an idiot

Skyedriver

Original Poster:

17,848 posts

282 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Clifford Chambers said:
I have (by the sounds of it) A similar problem, north facing, a bit dull and concrete slabs.

My solution which I'll implement this yr is planters and colourful pots. Any dull awkward surface can be improved. Pick plants that work with shade, evergreen ferns, hellebores, hostas, privet.

The big benefit is if something doesn't work, move it.

Edited by Clifford Chambers on Thursday 25th February 17:58
Summer time we have a couple of Acers in pots but take them in over the winter.. They aren't the ideal tree for there anyway as the east winds burn the leaves. Pots, tubs, nothing makes it look more than a pig with lipstick. It's shaded from about 10.30am even in summer, the stained grey flags look drab even when cleaned with bleach solution. The steps won't clean up. Been here three and a half years and it's starting to get to us.

Octoposse

2,158 posts

185 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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I think you could get away with a brightly coloured door. Any particular colour traditional in the area? Otherwise consider quite rich "steam engine" colours such as deep red or green.

Is the problem with the slabs the overall shape as much as the material itself? It's like a boundary protecting the front door instead of leading visitors to the entrance. Needs a causeway in a a different colour / texture curving or angling to the door.

Reclaimed brick for the path, through slate or a different coloured reclaimed brick?

Or, going really off-piste, a prefabricated metal 'bridge' with handrails curving leftwards and slightly upwards to the front door . . . it can cross a 'lake' of slate or gravel. Slightly Japanese Zen garden ish, if that isn't too spectacularly culturally jarring with the immediate surroundings.

Clifford Chambers

27,010 posts

183 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Skyedriver said:
Clifford Chambers said:
I have (by the sounds of it) A similar problem, north facing, a bit dull and concrete slabs.

My solution which I'll implement this yr is planters and colourful pots. Any dull awkward surface can be improved. Pick plants that work with shade, evergreen ferns, hellebores, hostas, privet.

The big benefit is if something doesn't work, move it.

Edited by Clifford Chambers on Thursday 25th February 17:58
Summer time we have a couple of Acers in pots but take them in over the winter.. They aren't the ideal tree for there anyway as the east winds burn the leaves. Pots, tubs, nothing makes it look more than a pig with lipstick. It's shaded from about 10.30am even in summer, the stained grey flags look drab even when cleaned with bleach solution. The steps won't clean up. Been here three and a half years and it's starting to get to us.
TBH now I've seen the photo, the more I think planting, colourful pots and the right stuff (not acers) makes sense.

Imagine lustrous, verdant, tiers of ferns. A couple of dowdy acers (acers rarely thrive in pots) just won't cut it.

ETA, get someone to photoshop it and you'll se what I mean.

This is ours, looks daggy now. Wait till we've finished.


Edited by Clifford Chambers on Thursday 25th February 20:14

fttm

3,686 posts

135 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Raised deck area and hanging baskets ?

Clifford Chambers

27,010 posts

183 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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fttm said:
Raised deck area and hanging baskets ?
Behave, its North facing, in Scotland.

fttm

3,686 posts

135 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Clifford Chambers said:
fttm said:
Raised deck area and hanging baskets ?
Behave, its North facing, in Scotland.
Oops so it is , no wonder he hates going home smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Hanging baskets- plants or flowers.
Give the slabs a clean.
Lighting can add a nice touch. From some up down wall lights to ground lights.

paralla

3,535 posts

135 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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It might look a little more welcome with some bigger steps on two sides and a couple of big matching pot plants.

Streps like this in the corner of your building.

beambeam1

1,029 posts

43 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Make your steps wider and deeper, pave the lot with something light and sympathetic to the white. Including the slabs coming from garage.





The vertical stuff, maybe match that with the same brick from lower portion of house?

After that, I would replace the front/garage doors to more colourful options, introduce soft lighting. For plants, I'd seriously consider fake plants or something that can take the punishment of Scottish west coast weather but still look pleasant... heather?

Getting rid and replacing the gravel might lift the overall feel when you arrive home too.

Do what my wife does, browse Pinterest for ideas!

Edited by beambeam1 on Friday 26th February 03:38

C Lee Farquar

4,067 posts

216 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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As suggested I think you need to raise the area by the door.

The windows look out of proportion because the ground is so far below the internal floor.

Richtea1970

1,115 posts

60 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Sell the Volvo, buy a Ferrari.
Instant driveway enhancement and you can take it with you when you move.

Crumpet

3,894 posts

180 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Would a non-porous, porcelain outdoor tile potentially be a better material for the paving? It shouldn’t go as green in the shade. Coupled with some nice planters, some lighting and it should look a bit smarter.

TCruise

577 posts

91 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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I would

Gravel.
Change the gravel, go for a honey colour gravel. The house is too cold and stark, nearing mono-chromatic. This is be the BIGGEST change. It wl introduce significant warmth.

Patio. Shape.
The patio area around the door. Made smaller. I would be tempted to make it a semi circle, simply to break it up. However, keeping sharp angles look more formal. But, sharp angles would suit a victorian/Georgian looking villa, somewhere grand. A semi circle would suit a cottage look.

Patio Size.
Reduce the "patio" areas around the doors. It looks odd and somewhat like a back door not front.

Patio Material.
A brick to match the house.

Patio Height.
Agree. Raise the height of the lowest paved area to lose a step.

Also reduce the paved area around the side door. Though you can leave the material.

Stairs. Tread.
Natural stone, with a bull nose finish would look great. Something sand coloured.

Stairs. Risers.
Bricks between to match the surrounding to tie it in. Or, rendered and white, again to tie it in to the house.

Door.
Paint it a nice local colour. Or something traditional but bright (country green).

Planting. Patio.
Around your newly created non-patio! A box hedge the whole way round, but leaving a gap for entry.
The end of the box hedge could should a very nice pot plant. Think stone large planter. Adding height.

Planting front door.
Planters raising height. Topiary box. Or, bay trees. Green all year, despite weather.

Soil pipes
Paint them, or somehow disguise


That'll all be a big change. You can then add to it as you wish.

Good luck.

Edited by TCruise on Friday 26th February 08:16

DozyGit

642 posts

171 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Skyedriver said:
Looking for some ideas.
large area of gravel leads to this.
Concrete paving which despite cleaning never looks that good, steps which are not inviting and a miserable brown front door.
We are planning to renew the door (and replace the garage door to the left with it as it's in better condition than the garage one).

With the walls being "chalk white" and the woodwork dark brown the front door colour seems limited in choice. It will have more glass than present as the hall way is very dark so the colour is not so important I suppose.

The front door faces north, the concrete paving is often wet (west coast Scotland), the sun only reaches it early morning and therefore even more depressing than when dry. Replacing it with Yorkstone would look nice but past experience of north facing yorkstone is it turns green and slippy very quickly.
Decking would be the same and gets faded and tatty quickly. Yellow Bilau, does that lose colour?
Plastic decking looks plastic.
Block paving?

Could reduce the amount of paving and use more gravel, the gravel looks slightly more cheery than the hard surfaces.
Paint the steps?
Wouldn't mind raising the (reduced) hard paving area by say 150mm to lose the bottom step. (Done this at the rear where I've raised the previous crappy patio with Yorkstone (south facing).

The budget isn't limitless, but we want to get it right. It's becoming depressing every time you return home to see this. I've normally got a few ideas, my wife usually has 10x more.

Come on please, what's new?


Edited by Skyedriver on Thursday 25th February 19:26
I personally think you should get;
1. Resin bound driveway
2. Dig 1m deep holes and fill with topsoil/compost rich soil add watering tubes and have full standard trees of choice (google if you don’t know what a full standard tree is)
3. Build stone steps and have tops in resin bound
4. Have hanging pots from wall with evergreen dropping creepers- clematis can be found
5. Change awful brown timber to white ;-)