Aston Martin Launch new F1 car

Aston Martin Launch new F1 car

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MO55

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2,036 posts

166 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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"If it looks right/fast, then it most probably is right/fast",,,,, we shall soon see.


https://youtu.be/TKC-Xr37VfY

PH User

22,154 posts

107 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Aston Martin paint pink car green

LTP

2,049 posts

111 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Just watched the video until the fans questions. Lawrence sure can give a whole new depth to the expression "wooden presentation". I can understand why Gemma Arterton lost her place at one point and couldn't work out who she should be reading the autocue at, because I was losing the will to live by then too.

Gemma: "Sebastian. What did you see in this team that made you want to drive for them?"
Sebastian: "Well, they aren't Ferrari, they offered me a seat and my team mate wasn't going to be Charles Leclerc"

I can only assume that the incongruous pink epaulettes on the racing suits are a nod to the Racing Point/Force India past, as BWT (the reason behind the original switch to pink, I believe) is still a sponsor. Also odd is when you go from being a headline sponsor of Red Bull to actually being the Aston Martin team the wings logos on the car actually get smaller and less noticeable.

Edited by LTP on Thursday 4th March 18:02

EVR

1,824 posts

59 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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PH User said:
Aston Martin paint pink car green
To be read in Clarkson's voice and tone! biggrin

Ken Figenus

5,678 posts

116 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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LTP I have to agree. I never use an actor as a presenter anymore than I use my gardener for painting... Totally different disciplines - presenters need to be themselves and actors don't. And that whole opening sequence's typically over-egged cringy marketing BS spiel delivered by a voice over that had such illegible awful diction and zero gravitas or vocal timbre - this is why I don't use rappers to prepare my Xmas presents or sing Carols either! Horses/courses. Anyway - this is about cars and F1 so forgive my whinge (but I would prefer the brand to be cool and not make people under 50 cringe) cool

But the future does looks bright under Santa Stroll - that car is a stunner and hopefully makes up for the cracking DBX for some biggrin;)laugh

Is there any Aston componentry in it - sorry will start watching F1 again to keep up at the back! Love Drive to Survive!

PeteB62

106 posts

79 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Would be nice to see them pushing for top three finish and regular visits to the podium, will make watching the GP more interesting.

Would also love to see Lance out score Vettel, as believe they should have kept Perez.

Turned off youtube video as soon as I noticed it was JJ Banker....

Jon39

12,782 posts

142 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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MO55 said:
"If it looks right/fast, then it most probably is right/fast",,,,, we shall soon see.

A while ago, Bob, I began a topic about Aston Martin F1.

The topic was soon whisked away to the PH Formula One forum.
Obviously Aston Martin PHers hardly go there, so within two days all discussion ended.

You might have noticed one of our topics for Aston Martin Enthusiasts - Miscellaneous.
Wink, wink, perhaps the launch might be discussed there.


Jon39

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142 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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PeteB62 said:
Turned off youtube video as soon as I noticed it was JJ Banker....

You picked the wrong video, Pete.
I watched the live version, which presumably is now on YouTube, or the Aston Martin F1 website.

Quite interesting, if you are expecting a slick performance. There are some amusing parts, which were not supposed to be funny.


TR-Spider

302 posts

77 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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EVR said:
PH User said:
Aston Martin paint pink car green
To be read in Clarkson's voice and tone! biggrin
"Beleive it or not, it is a 12 month process to get the colour right" boldly claims the design chief...

Yeah right - reality is still making the most absurd jokes!

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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It was the most god awful f1 car launch ever, everyone apart from Vettel looked terrified. laugh

Big Ry

1,678 posts

118 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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I think the car looks pretty good.....well as good as any modern F1 car can.

I'll still take MotoGP over F1 any day of the week, proper racing vs a procession.

On a different note, if anyone hears of them making a proper scale model of the F1 car (decent, not some half arsed Airfix kit) please let me know, as I'd like one on my office shelf.

Neil1300r

5,487 posts

177 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Big Ry said:
I'll still take MotoGP over F1 any day of the week, proper racing vs a procession.
yes

Fingers crossed I'll be able to visit one of the European rounds later this year. So, missed it last year

Big Ry

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118 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Neil1300r said:
yes

Fingers crossed I'll be able to visit one of the European rounds later this year. So, missed it last year
I had bookings for Portimao, Jerez and Le Mans this year....had to cancel them all frown

Currently booked for Catalunya...fingers crossed.

If you get the chance, Spielberg is an unbelievable circuit, but it's impossible to get accommodation anywhere near it.

PH User

22,154 posts

107 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Each to their own, but I find bike racing to be rather dull.

Big Ry

1,678 posts

118 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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PH User said:
Each to their own, but I find bike racing to be rather dull.
Indeed, each to their own beer

My issue with F1, is that there are less overtakes in an entire race than you get in the first lap of MotoGP. The cars are now so large, that's it's all but impossible to overtake on some tracks, so if you are first off the line, don't crash, no mechanical failure or ste pitstop, then it's odds on you've won the race......from lap 1. There's very little to no racing anymore, it's pure tactics.

In the past few years, F1 has become so sanitised and panders so much to the H&S brigade that they're not allowed to really race anymore. People should be allowed to do inherently dangerous things should they choose to, it's got fk all to do with someone sitting in an office somewhere if I want to risk my own life, yet that's not the case.

With bikes, I love the fact that it's more or less impossible to make it any safer, so that's the real thrill. These guys are swapping paint at 180mph with a very real possibility that one mistake will at best leave you banged up, at worst leave you dead.

All opinion however, I just wish F1 could get a bit of excitement back, then I'd be onboard for sure.

Happy Friday everyone beer

LTP

2,049 posts

111 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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For me, I think that, for a company like Aston Martin, rather than involvement in the rarefied albeit cutting edge discipline of F1, perhaps having a Works team involved in a discipline where the cars look exactly like and have direct links to cars the customers can actually buy, that demonstrates the performance and durability of the product in wheel-to-wheel competition with their direct competitors under the most challenging of conditions, something like sports car endurance racing....oh, wait

PH User

22,154 posts

107 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Big Ry said:
PH User said:
Each to their own, but I find bike racing to be rather dull.
Indeed, each to their own beer

My issue with F1, is that there are less overtakes in an entire race than you get in the first lap of MotoGP. The cars are now so large, that's it's all but impossible to overtake on some tracks, so if you are first off the line, don't crash, no mechanical failure or ste pitstop, then it's odds on you've won the race......from lap 1. There's very little to no racing anymore, it's pure tactics.

In the past few years, F1 has become so sanitised and panders so much to the H&S brigade that they're not allowed to really race anymore. People should be allowed to do inherently dangerous things should they choose to, it's got fk all to do with someone sitting in an office somewhere if I want to risk my own life, yet that's not the case.

With bikes, I love the fact that it's more or less impossible to make it any safer, so that's the real thrill. These guys are swapping paint at 180mph with a very real possibility that one mistake will at best leave you banged up, at worst leave you dead.

All opinion however, I just wish F1 could get a bit of excitement back, then I'd be onboard for sure.

Happy Friday everyone beer
For me it's too easy to overtake with the bikes, that's one of the reasons why it doesn't really interest me. F1 certainly isnt perfect though!

Jon39

12,782 posts

142 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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LTP said:
Just watched the video until the fans questions. Lawrence sure can give a whole new depth to the expression "wooden presentation".

Gemma: "Sebastian. What did you see in this team that made you want to drive for them?"
Sebastian: "Well, they aren't Ferrari, they offered me a seat and my team mate wasn't going to be Charles Leclerc"

Also odd is when you go from being a headline sponsor of Red Bull to actually being the Aston Martin team the wings logos on the car actually get smaller and less noticeable.

I find there is a fine balance between 'wooden' and the awful BBC, 'wave your arms as much as possible, whenever your mouth is moving'.
It was so obvious after that artificiality began, that the presenters must have been on a course.

Did SV really say that? I must have become numb by then.

A cynic might say, AML cannot have as much advertising space as before, because LS now has a golden opportunity to obtain $millions from new sponsors on the back of AML. He needs to keep space available on the car for more money sponsors.


Ken Figenus said:
Is there any Aston componentry in it ?
wink

Probably about as much as John Player Special componentry was in the Lotus chassis.

To be fair though, Aston Martin are not alone in supposedly having a 'works' F1 racing car.
The Sauber team is now called an Alfa Romeo works car.

The F1 grid now is divided between Works cars, Pretend works cars, Two teams largely supported by one business, and Privateer teams.

In the past, works teams have come and gone (except Ferrari), and the other teams have mostly begun as privateers.

Money of course tends to dictate results these days.
Some fans still miss the era, when competition was more equal, because almost every team used the same Cosworth DFV engune.





Edited by Jon39 on Friday 5th March 12:17

craigjm

17,907 posts

199 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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PeteB62 said:
Would also love to see Lance out score Vettel, as believe they should have kept Perez.
He most probably will. Forget "Fernando is faster than you" type orders it will just be "Daddy says get out of the way" if there is a situation where Lance can win and Vettel is ahead.

WantSagaris

236 posts

46 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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LTP said:
For me, I think that, for a company like Aston Martin, rather than involvement in the rarefied albeit cutting edge discipline of F1, perhaps having a Works team involved in a discipline where the cars look exactly like and have direct links to cars the customers can actually buy, that demonstrates the performance and durability of the product in wheel-to-wheel competition with their direct competitors under the most challenging of conditions, something like sports car endurance racing....oh, wait
I completely agree. I feel something like Dakar with DBX or sports car racing if marketed well fits more with the ethos of AM than F1, but LS likely wouldn't be the CEO of AM if his son wasn't in F1.