Pond in the front garden - liability
Discussion
I wasn't sure where to put this question. Should it be here or legal or posted in the council thread?!
Are there any legal and/or liability issues of putting a pond in the front garden?? Looking at the pond thread I doubt it
Pond will be 1x1.5m approx so very small. Strictly wildlife so deliberately overgrown, wild flowers, nicely planted etc. Are we asking for trouble putting this in the front garden? The pond will be on private property, approx 6m from the entrance to the driveway and will not be fenced off or secured in anyway.
Thoughts?
Are there any legal and/or liability issues of putting a pond in the front garden?? Looking at the pond thread I doubt it
Pond will be 1x1.5m approx so very small. Strictly wildlife so deliberately overgrown, wild flowers, nicely planted etc. Are we asking for trouble putting this in the front garden? The pond will be on private property, approx 6m from the entrance to the driveway and will not be fenced off or secured in anyway.
Thoughts?
breamster said:
I wasn't sure where to put this question. Should it be here or legal or posted in the council thread?!
Are there any legal and/or liability issues of putting a pond in the front garden?? Looking at the pond thread I doubt it
Pond will be 1x1.5m approx so very small. Strictly wildlife so deliberately overgrown, wild flowers, nicely planted etc. Are we asking for trouble putting this in the front garden? The pond will be on private property, approx 6m from the entrance to the driveway and will not be fenced off or secured in anyway.
Thoughts?
It'll attract flamingos, hordes of em. Are there any legal and/or liability issues of putting a pond in the front garden?? Looking at the pond thread I doubt it
Pond will be 1x1.5m approx so very small. Strictly wildlife so deliberately overgrown, wild flowers, nicely planted etc. Are we asking for trouble putting this in the front garden? The pond will be on private property, approx 6m from the entrance to the driveway and will not be fenced off or secured in anyway.
Thoughts?
As posted above, I'd just be checking it house insurance contains any pond exclusions.
Things I previously didn't know: if excavated using machinery, a pond might require planning permission.
https://freshwaterhabitats.org.uk/wp-content/uploa...
Things I previously didn't know: if excavated using machinery, a pond might require planning permission.
https://freshwaterhabitats.org.uk/wp-content/uploa...
I am innately wary of things like this.
It will probably never happen - but it did to people we know, their son, now about 16, then a toddler is severely brain damaged as a result. They meant to put a fence around their pond, but they got busy and life got in the way. The next thing that happened while mum was doing house work is a neighbour tearing through their rear fence, pulling the child out of the pond and resuscitating him. The ambulance came tearing into the village, got lost briefly, before being sent to the right place. No time wasted they picked up child and mum and rushed to A&E. Dad was pulled out of a meeting and told to get to hospital now. It paints a vivid picture and is one of those days I will not forget.
Our daughter is a similar age, and a year later got through a gate that her big brother left open. Again just things that happen. She was found at the next door neighbour's pond, throwing stones in. Makes me shudder.
Personally I would not build a pond with 'open' access. I don't want to live with that responsibility either before an incident or especially afterwards.
It will probably never happen - but it did to people we know, their son, now about 16, then a toddler is severely brain damaged as a result. They meant to put a fence around their pond, but they got busy and life got in the way. The next thing that happened while mum was doing house work is a neighbour tearing through their rear fence, pulling the child out of the pond and resuscitating him. The ambulance came tearing into the village, got lost briefly, before being sent to the right place. No time wasted they picked up child and mum and rushed to A&E. Dad was pulled out of a meeting and told to get to hospital now. It paints a vivid picture and is one of those days I will not forget.
Our daughter is a similar age, and a year later got through a gate that her big brother left open. Again just things that happen. She was found at the next door neighbour's pond, throwing stones in. Makes me shudder.
Personally I would not build a pond with 'open' access. I don't want to live with that responsibility either before an incident or especially afterwards.
breamster said:
I wasn't sure where to put this question. Should it be here or legal or posted in the council thread?!
Are there any legal and/or liability issues of putting a pond in the front garden?? Looking at the pond thread I doubt it
Pond will be 1x1.5m approx so very small. Strictly wildlife so deliberately overgrown, wild flowers, nicely planted etc. Are we asking for trouble putting this in the front garden? The pond will be on private property, approx 6m from the entrance to the driveway and will not be fenced off or secured in anyway.
Thoughts?
1.5m, and 6m away from entrance? Go for it.Are there any legal and/or liability issues of putting a pond in the front garden?? Looking at the pond thread I doubt it
Pond will be 1x1.5m approx so very small. Strictly wildlife so deliberately overgrown, wild flowers, nicely planted etc. Are we asking for trouble putting this in the front garden? The pond will be on private property, approx 6m from the entrance to the driveway and will not be fenced off or secured in anyway.
Thoughts?
surveyor said:
I am innately wary of things like this.
It will probably never happen - but it did to people we know, their son, now about 16, then a toddler is severely brain damaged as a result. They meant to put a fence around their pond, but they got busy and life got in the way. The next thing that happened while mum was doing house work is a neighbour tearing through their rear fence, pulling the child out of the pond and resuscitating him. The ambulance came tearing into the village, got lost briefly, before being sent to the right place. No time wasted they picked up child and mum and rushed to A&E. Dad was pulled out of a meeting and told to get to hospital now. It paints a vivid picture and is one of those days I will not forget.
Our daughter is a similar age, and a year later got through a gate that her big brother left open. Again just things that happen. She was found at the next door neighbour's pond, throwing stones in. Makes me shudder.
Personally I would not build a pond with 'open' access. I don't want to live with that responsibility either before an incident or especially afterwards.
The majority of people in the UK live near a road that's every bit as dangerous as a pond. You wouldn't leave a toddler wandering around on it's own next to a road so don't do it next to a pond. It will probably never happen - but it did to people we know, their son, now about 16, then a toddler is severely brain damaged as a result. They meant to put a fence around their pond, but they got busy and life got in the way. The next thing that happened while mum was doing house work is a neighbour tearing through their rear fence, pulling the child out of the pond and resuscitating him. The ambulance came tearing into the village, got lost briefly, before being sent to the right place. No time wasted they picked up child and mum and rushed to A&E. Dad was pulled out of a meeting and told to get to hospital now. It paints a vivid picture and is one of those days I will not forget.
Our daughter is a similar age, and a year later got through a gate that her big brother left open. Again just things that happen. She was found at the next door neighbour's pond, throwing stones in. Makes me shudder.
Personally I would not build a pond with 'open' access. I don't want to live with that responsibility either before an incident or especially afterwards.
Thankfully we live in quite a remote location but I make sure to tell any visitors quite strongly that our garden isn't remotely toddler friendly - multiple ponds, an occasionally fast flowing burn, unguarded drops and machinery/tools lying about. I'm not wrapping my life in cotton wool just because some people might not look after their children.
Edited by snowandrocks on Thursday 24th June 12:16
snowandrocks said:
surveyor said:
I am innately wary of things like this.
It will probably never happen - but it did to people we know, their son, now about 16, then a toddler is severely brain damaged as a result. They meant to put a fence around their pond, but they got busy and life got in the way. The next thing that happened while mum was doing house work is a neighbour tearing through their rear fence, pulling the child out of the pond and resuscitating him. The ambulance came tearing into the village, got lost briefly, before being sent to the right place. No time wasted they picked up child and mum and rushed to A&E. Dad was pulled out of a meeting and told to get to hospital now. It paints a vivid picture and is one of those days I will not forget.
Our daughter is a similar age, and a year later got through a gate that her big brother left open. Again just things that happen. She was found at the next door neighbour's pond, throwing stones in. Makes me shudder.
Personally I would not build a pond with 'open' access. I don't want to live with that responsibility either before an incident or especially afterwards.
The majority of people in the UK live near a road that's every bit as dangerous as a pond. You wouldn't leave a toddler wandering around on it's own next to a road so don't do it next to a pond. It will probably never happen - but it did to people we know, their son, now about 16, then a toddler is severely brain damaged as a result. They meant to put a fence around their pond, but they got busy and life got in the way. The next thing that happened while mum was doing house work is a neighbour tearing through their rear fence, pulling the child out of the pond and resuscitating him. The ambulance came tearing into the village, got lost briefly, before being sent to the right place. No time wasted they picked up child and mum and rushed to A&E. Dad was pulled out of a meeting and told to get to hospital now. It paints a vivid picture and is one of those days I will not forget.
Our daughter is a similar age, and a year later got through a gate that her big brother left open. Again just things that happen. She was found at the next door neighbour's pond, throwing stones in. Makes me shudder.
Personally I would not build a pond with 'open' access. I don't want to live with that responsibility either before an incident or especially afterwards.
Thankfully we live in quite a remote location but I make sure to tell any visitors quite strongly that our garden isn't remotely toddler friendly - multiple ponds, an occasionally fast flowing burn, unguarded drops and machinery/tools lying about. I'm not wrapping my life in cotton wool just because some people might not look after their children.
Edited by snowandrocks on Thursday 24th June 12:16
There are lots of parks and open spaces with ponds and lakes open 24/7.
Kids go to the edge with their parents or without. The incidents we hear about are the extremely rare ones and not to fret about.
Very few parents will not be keeping an eye on their kids, and of those that aren't, nothing will happen.
OP could always out some rocks around the permiter or a non slip surface if worried.
If it was a tiny street facing city garden near a nurwery with kids passing all the time then sure, but he has said it is 6m into his property.
Kids go to the edge with their parents or without. The incidents we hear about are the extremely rare ones and not to fret about.
Very few parents will not be keeping an eye on their kids, and of those that aren't, nothing will happen.
OP could always out some rocks around the permiter or a non slip surface if worried.
If it was a tiny street facing city garden near a nurwery with kids passing all the time then sure, but he has said it is 6m into his property.
Edited by hyphen on Thursday 24th June 12:48
Depending on where you live and what sort of footfall you have, it’s probably People’s dogs constantly being in your pond that will be a bigger issue than stray kids.
I have no data or stats, but it feels like there has been a massive increase in dog ownership during lockdown. While they are still plenty of good owners with well trained dogs, there seems to be a massive increase in dogs off leads or people with 5m leads reading phones.
I have no data or stats, but it feels like there has been a massive increase in dog ownership during lockdown. While they are still plenty of good owners with well trained dogs, there seems to be a massive increase in dogs off leads or people with 5m leads reading phones.
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