2022 Lawn Thread

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dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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AyBee said:
dhutch said:
Do you have any other option?

You wouldn't plan it maybe, it might not scale to a whole field, but yes absolutely you can.

I would get one of the Hozelock oscillating 'rectangular' sprinkler, give the ground a bloody good pre-soak 24hr hand, rake the seed well in or even better rake it in and top dress over the top, so it's just a bit further from the surface, and cover with polythene.

Only thing to watch is if it's proper sunny it can't get too hot in the poly, then you have to remove it and water lightly twice a day or something like that.

What sort of size area are we talking.
My wife might not like it, but I could leave it dead until autumn laugh Planning on doing a seed and top dress anyway. About 80sqm.
Sounds fair, and 80 sqm should be manageable in the grand scheme.

And tbf, April was cold and dry, and it hasn't been a wet May here.

I did the final strip of ours I didn't get around to last year two weeks ago and it's looking good.

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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As per earlier posts, can get even deliberately introduce small leaf clover I believe as self fertilising method.

If you want to kill it, then you want a broadleaf herbicide, which is the weed part of feed and feed. Available in liquid form as weed killer for lawns, typically in a green bottle. Resolva Lawn or Weedol Lawn.

joestifff

784 posts

106 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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joestifff said:
Evanivitch said:
joestifff said:
My grass is looking great at the moment, have done a bit of repair work where we had our patio extended, put some topsoil down and reseeded, trying to water twice a day.

The one issue I have, and not sure if it is a huge issue, is that clover is taking over the grass now, seems to be spreading quickly too.

Part of me thinks, it actually looks OK, nice and green, but the other part of me knows it shouldn't be there!

I have in the past few weeks put some Lawnsmith Spring & Summer Fertiliser for Clay Soil on it. Which greened it up nicely.

What do you all suggest for the clover? Weed and Feed(remembering I have already fed it!) or something else.

The grass is a large area at about 400m2, clover is spreading all over it now, so it would probably all need doing!!!

I cut every week, and am tempted by a robot mower too.
Any real problems with the clover though? Frequent cutting will stop it growing too leggy which can be an issue, otherwise it should stay low and flower nicely. Scarifying or raking will pull much of it out later in the year but wouldn't eliminate it.

Personally I think it's a decent addition to a lawn that's not being kept to pristine levels.
This is where I am at.

I know it will never be a perfect lawn, it can't be, we back onto open countryside, so all the weed seeds blow in from there. I just think I may fight a losing battle if I try! plus it makes it look very green!

I will have to get a photo of it tonight.
Photos as promised. Certainly come along way from the bare clay soil one year ago in the 2021 thread:




Close up of the clover. My app tells me it’s Dutch purple clover. Was cut two days ago, so doesn’t look too bad:





And the bit of grass I’m repairing to get up to the new patio level. Just chucked an inch of top soil on the old grass and seeded again:


Harry Flashman

19,347 posts

242 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Finally mowed lawn as got tired of waiting for all the daffidilleavesto go yellow and die away. May mean a smaller crop of lawn daffs next year, which I can live with. Will put more Pickwick crocus in this autumn as that really is the winner for winter lawn colour. The daffs are great, but big and the leaves last forever.

. Essy as you can see daff leaves the mower didn't pick up. Loads of clover too, but I'm minded to leave it - it wouldn't grow a couple of years back, and the grass was very sickly. Now weeds and grass thriving. Regular mowing at a proper height may help grass at expense of weeds,and keep some clover for nitrogen fixing. The grass actually looks very healthy despite the odd bare patch.

It became a lot longer than this...



Now mowed for the first time. Those green bundles on the patio are 30cm flowering grass stalks taken from the lawn edges. It got big



Clover patches, and dying grass where I walked on it with glyphosate on my boot soles from killing stuff on the patio. Idiot.



Messy!



Edited by Harry Flashman on Tuesday 24th May 22:54

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Arnold Cunningham said:

Went for 800 in the end. More than I can justify when I do already have an electric one, even though petrol>electric. smile
Ryan Ren O Thin Pedestrian scarifier / verti cutter
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284826259786

james-witton

1,363 posts

107 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Hello all
I am after some advice from the great and the good of this thread.
Someone has been having a go at the lawn. I have had smaller squirrel holes before but these two seem much bigger. Is it just my little furry fiend getting too excited or something else?
Any thoughts and remedial advice that works would be much appreciated.



jpt45

4 posts

44 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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james-witton said:
Hello all
I am after some advice from the great and the good of this thread.
Someone has been having a go at the lawn. I have had smaller squirrel holes before but these two seem much bigger. Is it just my little furry fiend getting too excited or something else?
Any thoughts and remedial advice that works would be much appreciated.


That's a badger, I've got one that lives in my garden. I'm constantly fixing diverts exactly the same as that like I'm out on the golf course.

blue al

944 posts

159 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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No mow may is nearly done and much of my lawn is going to seed, not much in the way of flowers apart from the odd buttercup.

Is it beneficial to let the grass self seed, and grow on for another week or so,
Or better to get into it now with the mower?

I have a cylinder mower and normally don’t collect the clippings but this will be too long to leave on the ground

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Finally. Just a little bit of rain, more in the week hopefully!

beanoir

1,327 posts

195 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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james-witton said:
Hello all
I am after some advice from the great and the good of this thread.
Someone has been having a go at the lawn. I have had smaller squirrel holes before but these two seem much bigger. Is it just my little furry fiend getting too excited or something else?
Any thoughts and remedial advice that works would be much appreciated.


We had this on our lawn and it was incredibly frustrating. They almost look like holes have been dug about the size of a large rodent.

We thought squirrels, chickens, moles, children, aliens…took ages to catch the culprits.

Turned out it was rats!



Harry Flashman

19,347 posts

242 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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First striping. Need to feed it and thicken it up but it's not in terrible condition! So nice afyer years of struggle - finally seems to be established and healthy.


Harry Flashman

19,347 posts

242 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Have an unmown bit with Star of Persia allium this year.




dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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dhutch said:
Finally. Just a little bit of rain, more in the week hopefully!
Cut the lawn a notch lower a fortnight ago, around 30mm vs 40mm, planning a bit more verticcutting maybe, as I was expecting a run of warm wet weather as per the forecast.

Instead, a fortnight of no rain, so it's just say there drying out, far too short for the weather conditions.

Probably trying for too fine and two short a lawn, but the Staygreen does say it's suitable for 25 to 40mm, and I thought it might encorrage that over some of the courses grasses in the context of a good growing spell.

pmanson

13,382 posts

253 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Ours is starting to look ok







The front is still a little patchy




But an improvement on when we moved in back in March


rfsteel

711 posts

170 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Mo Bacter update, after a month and 2 applications and a number of weekly cuts;

from 3rd April

to yesterday 28th May


Still some remains of moss/thatch, but the lawn is a lot greener than in previous years, hopefully another application of Mo Bacter will resolve matters

Hereward

4,180 posts

230 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Harry Flashman said:
Clover patches, and dying grass where I walked on it with glyphosate on my boot soles from killing stuff on the patio. Idiot.

Sorry mate but I had to chuckle at this. You must have been fuming hehe

Harry Flashman

19,347 posts

242 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Yup! What a fool. smile

cnprior

114 posts

159 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Hello,

A couple of years ago I bought a lawnmower with mulcher, it is a rotary bosch machine cordless and I'm quite happy with it, especially the rear roller for stripes.

The mulching plate I used for the First few months and I was definitely impressed with how much thicker the grass grew that year. Following year, I had learnt a bit more about lawns and had noticed much more POA in my lawn, so I stopped the mulching....as many you tube lawn content sharers said they were a no, no.

Skip to this year and my grass over seeding after hollowtining, overseeding and top soil dressing isn't as effective as i would like....some areas of the grass are not as thick and I would like to use my mulcher again - as I believe the mulching would help to thicken the existing grass.....but am nervous of the poa expanding even further.

So I have devised a plan in my head......rake the areas where poa is evident, so the strands stand up ready to be cut - then cut the grass to remove the seed heads, then lower the cut (middle setting), then mulch ......as hopefully most of the seed heads will have been removed in the First cut.

Mulching seems to divide opinion, but I definitely had a much thicker lawn......opinions from this forum greatly welcome, or alternative opinions / approaches that people have........i have heard of verticutting, but can't afford another machine.....

Evanivitch

20,068 posts

122 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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cnprior said:
Hello,

A couple of years ago I bought a lawnmower with mulcher, it is a rotary bosch machine cordless and I'm quite happy with it, especially the rear roller for stripes.

The mulching plate I used for the First few months and I was definitely impressed with how much thicker the grass grew that year. Following year, I had learnt a bit more about lawns and had noticed much more POA in my lawn, so I stopped the mulching....as many you tube lawn content sharers said they were a no, no.

Skip to this year and my grass over seeding after hollowtining, overseeding and top soil dressing isn't as effective as i would like....some areas of the grass are not as thick and I would like to use my mulcher again - as I believe the mulching would help to thicken the existing grass.....but am nervous of the poa expanding even further.

So I have devised a plan in my head......rake the areas where poa is evident, so the strands stand up ready to be cut - then cut the grass to remove the seed heads, then lower the cut (middle setting), then mulch ......as hopefully most of the seed heads will have been removed in the First cut.

Mulching seems to divide opinion, but I definitely had a much thicker lawn......opinions from this forum greatly welcome, or alternative opinions / approaches that people have........i have heard of verticutting, but can't afford another machine.....
Mulching is just another way of feeding the lawn. Cut often enough, and with a good enough device, there's little risk of thatch issues requiring heavy scarifying.

If you're no longer mulching, are you feeding the lawn at all? Otherwise all you're doing is removing nutrients and not replenishing them...

cnprior

114 posts

159 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Yes I feed using miraclegro and also Westland lawn thickener.....but would be open to hearing of better lawn food.

Did try an iro sulphate from the lawnsmith, but found the instructions confusing and tended to burn the grass.....so gave up and went to miraclegro as this was High in nitrogen content.
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