Bought a field, building a house
Discussion
Tom8 said:
Looks beautiful, is it all wooden? Is that a kind of american design?
I don't mean to derail the thread but this looks like an entirely normal way of building a house. Wooden frame, steels where needed, then stone/brick/block with render for the outer walls.Is it significantly different outside of Scotland?
John87 said:
Tom8 said:
Looks beautiful, is it all wooden? Is that a kind of american design?
I don't mean to derail the thread but this looks like an entirely normal way of building a house. Wooden frame, steels where needed, then stone/brick/block with render for the outer walls.Is it significantly different outside of Scotland?
Can make for some interesting reading when you post about it online, typical comments include apparently its going to be rotten in 10-15 years or its only good for as long as it takes to pay off a mortgage.
Timber frame with steel reinforcement where required, sheeted in OSB which is protected by a membrane. This provides the main structure for the roof trusses to be supported, then the outer walls are skinned in bricks/blocks/stone/cladding etc. Timber ties connect the blockwork to the timber frame so it increases the wracking capacity, despite not being part of the structure that holds the roof up.
emicen said:
John87 said:
Tom8 said:
Looks beautiful, is it all wooden? Is that a kind of american design?
I don't mean to derail the thread but this looks like an entirely normal way of building a house. Wooden frame, steels where needed, then stone/brick/block with render for the outer walls.Is it significantly different outside of Scotland?
Can make for some interesting reading when you post about it online, typical comments include apparently its going to be rotten in 10-15 years or its only good for as long as it takes to pay off a mortgage.
Timber frame with steel reinforcement where required, sheeted in OSB which is protected by a membrane. This provides the main structure for the roof trusses to be supported, then the outer walls are skinned in bricks/blocks/stone/cladding etc. Timber ties connect the blockwork to the timber frame so it increases the wracking capacity, despite not being part of the structure that holds the roof up.
RE Timber Frame
I have an extension from 1982 which is timber framed. It is in tip top condition, and the insulation is still there and working.
Unlike the blown in insulation in my brick and brick cavity for the 1973 built house...There is nothing there, and it will cost thousands to hoover this out and reinstall.
Also remember - cavities were invented around second world war when cheap bricks led to damp issues. Cavities 'solved' some damp issues from wind blown rain etc. They were never invented for keeping warm.
There are far, far more houses globally out of timber frame and other natural materials than our UK fired bricks and concrete blocks. And far far more houses globally with solid wall construction - see all those rendered houses in Europe with either clay blocks or timber frame hiding below.
Our building methods in the UK are just odd....which reminds me of a Swedish plumber joke..
"Why do the British put their water and waste pipes on the outside wall of houses?
So they can reach them when they freeze over."
I have an extension from 1982 which is timber framed. It is in tip top condition, and the insulation is still there and working.
Unlike the blown in insulation in my brick and brick cavity for the 1973 built house...There is nothing there, and it will cost thousands to hoover this out and reinstall.
Also remember - cavities were invented around second world war when cheap bricks led to damp issues. Cavities 'solved' some damp issues from wind blown rain etc. They were never invented for keeping warm.
There are far, far more houses globally out of timber frame and other natural materials than our UK fired bricks and concrete blocks. And far far more houses globally with solid wall construction - see all those rendered houses in Europe with either clay blocks or timber frame hiding below.
Our building methods in the UK are just odd....which reminds me of a Swedish plumber joke..
"Why do the British put their water and waste pipes on the outside wall of houses?
So they can reach them when they freeze over."
dhutch said:
Sway said:
Surprised they're going for bags and not a tipper load (or few)!
Way of the world these days! Even more mad when you consider the bags are disposable, single use micro plastics.Whilst we'd likely have got away with it [whinstone is hard AF], other materials like sandstone wouldn't appreciate being tipped. If you're dealing with random ruble it would probably be ok, but anything more square or that you want to have defined faces or edges, it'll be risky.
We'll need something like 140sqm in total, but I definitely don't need 140sqm in one hit. Its taken the guys weeks to go through the first 75sqm. Its also been spread across very different locations on site, a lot easier to manage picking up a bag with the manitou than it is shifting a pile of stone.
Regarding single use plastics, polypropylene is very recyclable, problem is more finding places to drop it off for recycling. Feels like merchants should be encouraged to [or probably more realistically mandated to] accept them for recycling the same way supermarkets do with carrier bags.
Back to the joys of caravan life. Finally found time (some might call it finally took enough spousal badgering) to sort the bathroom sink. I'll be honest, brushing my teeth in the kitchen sink was getting rather old.
Not a massive problem, just the seal was no longer sealing where the u-bend piece meets the down pipe. Probably got tugged loose whilst we were fighting with the frozen pipes. The real issue was how caravans seem to be put together. I need to undo the coupling and have a look then make sure the pipe is re-inserted properly to put it all back together. Here's the access:
Main issue is there's no exposed fixings to remove the shelf or backing board, they're secured via connector blocks which are all behind the backing board and out of reach.
Now I could have run an extension lead in from the kitchen and used my existing multitool, but felt like a good excuse for a new toy...
Chopped a section out, re-seated the seal, refitted the section with some tabs screwed on so I can remove it easily if I ever need access again. Not the prettiest solution but it works!
Also stuck some new drainpipe clips on various parts of the caravan where the old ones were broken or missing. Might seem trivial but the wind was making them creak and vibrate and it was doing my nut in.
Think they perished on the journey to site when fighting roadside branches.
Really need to get round to finishing the external clean on the caravan, maybe we'll have an epic spring clean.
Not a massive problem, just the seal was no longer sealing where the u-bend piece meets the down pipe. Probably got tugged loose whilst we were fighting with the frozen pipes. The real issue was how caravans seem to be put together. I need to undo the coupling and have a look then make sure the pipe is re-inserted properly to put it all back together. Here's the access:
Main issue is there's no exposed fixings to remove the shelf or backing board, they're secured via connector blocks which are all behind the backing board and out of reach.
Now I could have run an extension lead in from the kitchen and used my existing multitool, but felt like a good excuse for a new toy...
Chopped a section out, re-seated the seal, refitted the section with some tabs screwed on so I can remove it easily if I ever need access again. Not the prettiest solution but it works!
Also stuck some new drainpipe clips on various parts of the caravan where the old ones were broken or missing. Might seem trivial but the wind was making them creak and vibrate and it was doing my nut in.
Think they perished on the journey to site when fighting roadside branches.
Really need to get round to finishing the external clean on the caravan, maybe we'll have an epic spring clean.
POIDH said:
Also remember - cavities were invented around second world war when cheap bricks led to damp issues. Cavities 'solved' some damp issues from wind blown rain etc. They were never invented for keeping warm.
Cavity walls have existed since at least the mid-19th century, although they didn't become common until the beginning of the 20th.Rushjob said:
PeteTaylor99 said:
emicen said:
dhutch said:
Mahahah. What tiles are going on?
Marley Edgemere, lots and lots of Marley Edgemere 
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