New build deviating from plans…
Discussion
_-XXXX-_ said:
Elysium said:
I'd still be measuring the stairs vs the show house to confirm what they are saying is true. 
But unless the stair position and dimensions are causing other problems I would say that pushing to have it ripped out and refitted is probably going to be unnecessary.
It looks like a purely cosmetic issue where there is an easy fix that will get the builder out of the hole, look visually acceptable and allow the OP to move on.
I don't think it's going to be the last issue on this build unfortunately and a bit of compromise on this one to maintain a positive relationship might be useful further down the line.
Toaster Pilot said:
I’ll definitely require more convincing that it’s just cosmetic - there’s an issue in another room on the ground floor that also suggests things are a bit tighter than they should be, struggling to believe they’re unrelated.
They have f
ked this one up!makes me feel much happier about the odd scrape in the paint that is in our typical snagging list
Toaster Pilot said:
I’ll definitely require more convincing that it’s just cosmetic - there’s an issue in another room on the ground floor that also suggests things are a bit tighter than they should be, struggling to believe they’re unrelated.
That is a worry. I would probably try and meet a manager there to jointly take some check dimensions to see what you are dealing with.
The contract you posted yesterday gave you some teeth if the area was ‘substantially’ reduced. Substantial is quite poorly defined though.
I am in construction, but not house building, so I have some experience. The trick with all of these things is to keep the pressure on and try to accelerate towards a solution before things become entrenched.
Edited by Elysium on Thursday 16th March 18:44
Will definitely be measuring the next time I’m on site.
The house I’m currently renting is in an earlier phase on the same site. Went around it with a laser measure earlier and compared to the brochure. Very close in dimensions suggesting that they can build to plan when they want to.
I did find that the stud wall between two bedrooms is in the wrong position though
The house I’m currently renting is in an earlier phase on the same site. Went around it with a laser measure earlier and compared to the brochure. Very close in dimensions suggesting that they can build to plan when they want to.
I did find that the stud wall between two bedrooms is in the wrong position though
PianoManYork said:
blueg33 said:
I would be looking to exit from contract. It looks like material differences in size. Op, don’t accept the stock phrase “it’s within tolerance”
Exactly what I’d be aiming to do in the circumstances.Toaster Pilot said:
Jeremy-75qq8 said:
At what point with errors does the op have a right to reject ?
If a car is mended multiple times you can. I appreciate it has not been handed over and is work in progress but some of the errors here ( found by the op ) are pretty piss poor
If a car is mended multiple times you can. I appreciate it has not been handed over and is work in progress but some of the errors here ( found by the op ) are pretty piss poor
You have significantly more rights when buying a car (or a f
king toaster from Currys) The problem is there is no official ‘spec’ available. They can just make any old bulls
t up.My builders said no plans even existed for me to check, they just built off the architect plans
I gave up arguing with the muppets.
The most expensive thing you’ll buy, and the rules/regs are the most lackadaisical going.
The entire new build industry is a scam in my view. They’re enabled by government to keep the whole joke of an industry propped up.
I get those saying they’d be pulling out but it’s easier said than done - the legal fight to actually do so on one hand and the impending homelessness/committing to another year at least of exorbitant rent / expiring mortgage offer / etc on the other.
I need to fully understand what the problem is and how far it goes, that’s clearly the next step.
I need to fully understand what the problem is and how far it goes, that’s clearly the next step.
_-XXXX-_ said:
Elysium said:
I'd still be measuring the stairs vs the show house to confirm what they are saying is true. Find the cause.
Escort3500 said:
PianoManYork said:
blueg33 said:
I would be looking to exit from contract. It looks like material differences in size. Op, don’t accept the stock phrase “it’s within tolerance”
Exactly what I’d be aiming to do in the circumstances.Move in only to play the game of ‘what f
kup will I find next’.Eta: it seems in general people would reject a car for more trivial reasons!
blueg33 said:
I would be looking to exit from contract. It looks like material differences in size. Op, don’t accept the stock phrase “it’s within tolerance”
Maybe, but its worth getting some evidence first. Getting a surveyor in would make sense, but be more cost for the OP. Thats why I suggested that he meet a manager from the housebuilder on site and jointly check dimensions.
That would very quickly deal with a number of questions:
1. What does the contact actually say the dims should be?
2. If they are wrong, what has happened and how substantial is it?
Doing this together could be the quickest way to a solution or a hassle free cancellation of the contract with deposit returned.
andy43 said:
Ouch. I follow exacthomesurveys on instagram - they’re one of the companies that go out and professionally snag new builds for a few hundred quid. Shouldn’t be necessary but from what I’ve viewed on there I’d highly recommend getting a pro snagger in. Well worth the money.
I don't think there is any real need for this, they'll pick up a million things of which only 10% you'll care about and the builder might push back harder because you've drop an enormous list on them, most of which being trivial.There are always big snags that need sorting, small snags to discuss and snags you really don't care about.
From my own experience;
Big - Pipe burst prior to handover and all the grout in the kitchen floor tiles discolored.
Small - damaged window sill
who cares - poor paint finish on a couple of walls were going to paint anyway
You'd hope to have no big snags but that if there were any the builder would sort them without disagreement, in my case they had a professional company come in and stain all the grout from the utility room, through the kitchen and all the way down the hall to the front door as it was a single run of flooring. I had it in writing that should the finish not last 2 years they would have somebody come back to rectify. 9 years later its still the same colour.
Everybody i spoke to said it needed completely raking out and redoing but i trusted the builder because they owned their mistakes.
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