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Wheatsheaf said:
I found this video really helpful learning to mitre internal corners. Well worth the effort to do it this way in my opinion.
https://youtu.be/YRu_SqWNtMs
Good video explaining how to scribe but 3m 20s in you can see why I go clockwise around a room, he’s cutting the straight butt joint bit at the bottom trying to hold the mitred ofcut section, if he’d have ran that long piece right up to the wall, then scribed the smaller piece next to the door lining he’d have had the piece on his stool with his left hand holding it down while cutting it out.https://youtu.be/YRu_SqWNtMs
SIMON67 said:
Just had a sweary row with the guy on the phone. His parting shot was "I'm a floor fitter not a carpenter" give me strength?
What a tosser.Imo, assuming you have a breakdown, pay him for the flooring but not the skirtings.
If it's a priced as one job, get someone else to quote replacing the skirtings asap. If easier said than done.
dhutch said:
What a tosser.
Imo, assuming you have a breakdown, pay him for the flooring but not the skirtings.
If it's a priced as one job, get someone else to quote replacing the skirtings asap. If easier said than done.
Absolutely, not paying for skirting but if floor is ok I'll pay for that. I'll find someone else to replace the skirting and will ask what his plans are for the joints! CheersImo, assuming you have a breakdown, pay him for the flooring but not the skirtings.
If it's a priced as one job, get someone else to quote replacing the skirtings asap. If easier said than done.
Promised Land said:
Good video explaining how to scribe but 3m 20s in you can see why I go clockwise around a room, he’s cutting the straight butt joint bit at the bottom trying to hold the mitred ofcut section, if he’d have ran that long piece right up to the wall, then scribed the smaller piece next to the door lining he’d have had the piece on his stool with his left hand holding it down while cutting it out.
I go clockwise if cutting with a hand saw, anti clockwise if cutting scribes with a mitre saw Promised Land said:
Wheatsheaf said:
I found this video really helpful learning to mitre internal corners. Well worth the effort to do it this way in my opinion.
https://youtu.be/YRu_SqWNtMs
Good video explaining how to scribe but 3m 20s in you can see why I go clockwise around a room, he’s cutting the straight butt joint bit at the bottom trying to hold the mitred ofcut section, if he’d have ran that long piece right up to the wall, then scribed the smaller piece next to the door lining he’d have had the piece on his stool with his left hand holding it down while cutting it out.https://youtu.be/YRu_SqWNtMs
There is no way skirting board should be done so badly by anyone half competent though.
By definition a good wooden floor/floor fitter should be good at:
Fitting floors.
Fitting skirting.
Fitting and trimming doors.
If they can’t sort the doors and skirting *properly* as part of the job they’re not a good floor fitter.
.*check first and then ask on PH
Mr Whippy said:
He’s pretty good with those saws! Subbed.
There is no way skirting board should be done so badly by anyone half competent though.
By definition a good wooden floor/floor fitter should be good at:
Fitting floors.
Fitting skirting.
Fitting and trimming doors.
If they can’t sort the doors and skirting *properly* as part of the job they’re not a good floor fitter.
.*check first and then ask on PH
A flooring fitter won’t hang doors, or fit skirting. There is no way skirting board should be done so badly by anyone half competent though.
By definition a good wooden floor/floor fitter should be good at:
Fitting floors.
Fitting skirting.
Fitting and trimming doors.
If they can’t sort the doors and skirting *properly* as part of the job they’re not a good floor fitter.
.*check first and then ask on PH
So why even attempt it then?
They should say, they can’t do XYZ, you’ll have to find and pay for someone else to do it around my work.
Or as part of their quote they should organise a trusted trade to do it around their work at the same time.
Leaving a s
t job, at cost/faff/possible further remedial damage to rectify is even more incompetent.
They should say, they can’t do XYZ, you’ll have to find and pay for someone else to do it around my work.
Or as part of their quote they should organise a trusted trade to do it around their work at the same time.
Leaving a s
t job, at cost/faff/possible further remedial damage to rectify is even more incompetent.Mr Whippy said:
So why even attempt it then?
They should say, they can’t do XYZ, you’ll have to find and pay for someone else to do it around my work.
Or as part of their quote they should organise a trusted trade to do it around their work at the same time.
Leaving a st job, at cost/faff/possible further remedial damage to rectify is even more incompetent.
Probably thought I will get away with this and make a few quid, it’s only a simple skirting profile. They should say, they can’t do XYZ, you’ll have to find and pay for someone else to do it around my work.
Or as part of their quote they should organise a trusted trade to do it around their work at the same time.
Leaving a s
t job, at cost/faff/possible further remedial damage to rectify is even more incompetent.A bit of a tip if the skirting is redone. Just pack it off the floor slightly. Enough so that you can't see some bits touching the floor and some not (1mm in touching spots). This will also help with painting as you can slide something under the skirting to protect the floor.
I'm a diy'er and have fitted a lot of 175 ogee in my house with perfect scribes, if I can do it I'm sure a floor layer can do that simple scribe.
I'm a diy'er and have fitted a lot of 175 ogee in my house with perfect scribes, if I can do it I'm sure a floor layer can do that simple scribe.
Whether it’s laziness, or lack of experience, the knock on effect for the next tradesmen is always a spanner in the works.
Several times I’ve had jobs where the skirtings have been siliconed on and subsequently squirted out the top when pushed on to the wall, or slathered in caulk as seen here, meaning I’ve got to cut and pick away at it before I can start.
Let’s hope you get a satisfactory finish, and don’t get too stressed. Not the end of the world in the grand scheme of things!
Several times I’ve had jobs where the skirtings have been siliconed on and subsequently squirted out the top when pushed on to the wall, or slathered in caulk as seen here, meaning I’ve got to cut and pick away at it before I can start.
Let’s hope you get a satisfactory finish, and don’t get too stressed. Not the end of the world in the grand scheme of things!
Dr.Hellno said:
Whether it’s laziness, or lack of experience, the knock on effect for the next tradesmen is always a spanner in the works.
Several times I’ve had jobs where the skirtings have been siliconed on and subsequently squirted out the top when pushed on to the wall, or slathered in caulk as seen here, meaning I’ve got to cut and pick away at it before I can start.
Let’s hope you get a satisfactory finish, and don’t get too stressed. Not the end of the world in the grand scheme of things!
Absolutely - I'm not paying the floor fitter so more than happy to learn from this and pay a decent chippy to do a decent job. I'll be very specific with my expectations. Don't expect perfection, just a decent job to a standard above what I could achieve myself 👍Several times I’ve had jobs where the skirtings have been siliconed on and subsequently squirted out the top when pushed on to the wall, or slathered in caulk as seen here, meaning I’ve got to cut and pick away at it before I can start.
Let’s hope you get a satisfactory finish, and don’t get too stressed. Not the end of the world in the grand scheme of things!
Douglas Quaid said:
Once it’s caulked it will be fine. The most important thing is to have the corners square. Yours are. Your walls being out of true is not the joiners fault. This is how skirting looks when the walls aren’t perfect. You’ve just never noticed before as the fitter is halfway through the job and gaps are highlighted. .
You’re judging a job before it’s finished. Once it is finished with caulk then take a look at it. It will look completely different and you’ll then realise that you were wrong.
No offence but if you don’t really know what you’re looking at and haven’t done it yourself before then you’re not really in a position to judge.
Hilarious.You’re judging a job before it’s finished. Once it is finished with caulk then take a look at it. It will look completely different and you’ll then realise that you were wrong.
No offence but if you don’t really know what you’re looking at and haven’t done it yourself before then you’re not really in a position to judge.
Do you hold everything in your life to such equally garbage standards?
neth27 said:
Mr Whippy said:
So why even attempt it then?
They should say, they can’t do XYZ, you’ll have to find and pay for someone else to do it around my work.
Or as part of their quote they should organise a trusted trade to do it around their work at the same time.
Leaving a st job, at cost/faff/possible further remedial damage to rectify is even more incompetent.
Probably thought I will get away with this and make a few quid, it’s only a simple skirting profile. They should say, they can’t do XYZ, you’ll have to find and pay for someone else to do it around my work.
Or as part of their quote they should organise a trusted trade to do it around their work at the same time.
Leaving a s
t job, at cost/faff/possible further remedial damage to rectify is even more incompetent.It makes you question their assertion they’re a professional floor fitter though, a professional wouldn’t engage in such activity if they were going to do it so badly.
Douglas Quaid said:
Once it’s caulked it will be fine. The most important thing is to have the corners square. Yours are. Your walls being out of true is not the joiners fault. This is how skirting looks when the walls aren’t perfect. You’ve just never noticed before as the fitter is halfway through the job and gaps are highlighted. .
You’re judging a job before it’s finished. Once it is finished with caulk then take a look at it. It will look completely different and you’ll then realise that you were wrong.
No offence but if you don’t really know what you’re looking at and haven’t done it yourself before then you’re not really in a position to judge.
Likewise, no offence but that's bs and not acceptable. You’re judging a job before it’s finished. Once it is finished with caulk then take a look at it. It will look completely different and you’ll then realise that you were wrong.
No offence but if you don’t really know what you’re looking at and haven’t done it yourself before then you’re not really in a position to judge.
Filling small gaps behind the skirting to negate an uneven wall isn't so bad but butt jointing in a corner and filling with caulk is lazy, amateurish and unprofessional. They should be scribed or mitred (neither of which can now be done as they will be too short if unfinished)
Another video for reference - this is more 'DIY' and not as sleek as the one above but explains some of the problems with bendy walls
Charlie DIYte
Charlie DIYte
SIMON67 said:
Absolutely - I'm not paying the floor fitter so more than happy to learn from this and pay a decent chippy to do a decent job. I'll be very specific with my expectations. Don't expect perfection, just a decent job to a standard above what I could achieve myself ??
Please do follow up with photos of the corrected work, just to show the "you don't know what you are talking about" / "what do you expect " argumentative crowd what can actually be done by someone not bone idle.Enut said:
SIMON67 said:
Just had a sweary row with the guy on the phone. His parting shot was "I'm a floor fitter not a carpenter" give me strength ??
Shame he didn't tell you this at the start, then you could have got someone half decent to do the job!If hes that bad at Skirthing, how bad is his wooden floor fitting??
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