Dropping a tree in conservation area

[gareth h]

Is it ash? We had one come down in one of the recent storms, a big one, the trunk was pretty much hollow, pretty scary when it fell, I’d take the tree surgeons advice and have it down.

[PlywoodPascal]

RichB said:

Do you not fell trees these days or does 'drop' sound a bit more hard core?

Felling them is chopping them down
Dropping them is what happens when you carry them to the hilux afterwards. Because they are so heavy.

[theboss]

A conservation area doesn't confer the same protection as a TPO.

Trees in a conservation area require the submission of notice to the council's planning dept. If they really don't like what you're trying to do, they could put a TPO in place.

TPO requires strict approval before you can do anything.

I live in a conservation area and my plot is covered by an area TPO. My neighbours whose trees aren't protected by TPO's have a much easier time undertaking tree work than I do.

That said, my TPO + Conservation Area ash tree showed some early signs of dieback and the counci's tree officers seemed very relaxed about granting permission to fell it if deemed to be unsafe, with the condition an appropriate tree (subject to their approval) was planted to replace it.

I would just leave it in the hands of the tree surgeon. They'll be used to handling the paperwork and legalities all the time. My guy charges a small admin fee to deal with it all, which seems very reasonable.

[Silvanus]

You have already engaged a tree surgeon. If they are suitably qualified and experienced they should be able to give you all the advice you need and apply for permission on your behalf if necessary. I take it they have issued you a proper report stating the issues. Or is it a case of 'don't like the look of that mate, needs dropping'.

[blueg33]

Our tree surgeon deals with the planning, if it’s urgent he phones the tree officer and she usually drops in to have a look.

When we last felled a damaged tree, we had to agree to replace it. Species of replacement was agreed with the Tree Officer.

[simon_harris]

Our opposite neighbour removed a tree without planning during building work a few years ago, I realised what was happening and tried to stop the builder, got planning to come out the same day etc but they had damaged the tree so much by that point it all had to come down. The "outcome" was that a replacement was supposed to be planted but given that the area is now tiled over I seriously doubt it is ever going to happen.

for clarity this is in a conservation area and we have to get planning for any work done on any trees

[JimM169]

Wilco500 said:

Fortunately not a TPO tree, just conservation area. The 2 sycamores next to it are tagged and fine. It’s just this huge lime tree that spilt and a right pain. Decent stock of fire wood I guess (when dry)

If it's lime be prepared for a world of pain trying to split it, the twisted nature of the grain makes it a nightmare - good for carving though apparently!

[alscar]

TownIdiot said:

All trees are TPO in a conservation area - or they certainly are in England.

Not necessarily and that may also be just coincidence.
We are in a conservation area and when we needed work doing the tree surgeon showed me the portal map from the Council which clearly showed what trees in the vicinity were or were not subject to one.

[Silvanus]

alscar said:

TownIdiot said:

All trees are TPO in a conservation area - or they certainly are in England.

Not necessarily and that may also be just coincidence.
We are in a conservation area and when we needed work doing the tree surgeon showed me the portal map from the Council which clearly showed what trees in the vicinity were or were not subject to one.

They can also be date specific, for example all tees prior to a development being covered and later planting being exempt. The details within the TPO will confirm what is or isn't covered.

[alscar]

Silvanus said:

alscar said:

TownIdiot said:

All trees are TPO in a conservation area - or they certainly are in England.

Not necessarily and that may also be just coincidence.
We are in a conservation area and when we needed work doing the tree surgeon showed me the portal map from the Council which clearly showed what trees in the vicinity were or were not subject to one.

They can also be date specific, for example all tees prior to a development being covered and later planting being exempt. The details within the TPO will confirm what is or isn't covered.

Yes good point.
I thought the map produced by the Council was pretty helpful actually.

[andya7]

Trees in conservation areas aren't automatically/blanket TPO'd, but they are 'protected', to a point.

Exemptions (summary) - anything below 75mm diameter (taken at 1.5m above the ground) can be removed, trees with a 100mm diameter can be removed when it is done to improve the growth of other trees.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/scottish-plannin...