A spanner in the works (help with a problem)

A spanner in the works (help with a problem)

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Mr Green

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936 posts

182 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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It's not actually a spanner in the works but a chisel down the drains. A workman employed by the same firm that fitted my drains was back doing a different job, the main drains in the street were blocked, I didn't know were the blockage was so I asked them(2 of them) to lift the manhole cover on my drive and have a look, he used his chisel to open the man hole then accidentally kicked in into the 1 meter deep sabba that was 80% full of liquid ste. We realised that the blockage was in the main system and the council came out the next day and cleared the blockage and so my sabba emptied, no sign of the chisel though.
The chisel is one of those with a hand protector on it and the pipe leaving the sabba drops at 90 degrees then straightens and goes into the main pipe which when the lid was off did not reveal 'his' chisel.
This is in Cyprus and the workers are English,I have asked them nicely to get the chisel out before I go back to the UK but I think they will wait till I've gone then say they got it out and I won't actually know. Waste is passing through but eventually it may develope into another blockage, the 90 degree bend is to tight to rod so I don't think 'his' chisel made it round the bend, the bend is about 1 foot out of the sabba. How can I check whether the chisel has been removed or as in fact gone?

OllieWinchester

5,654 posts

192 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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Let me get this straight. A workman dropped his chisel down a drain on your driveway. You want some foolproof way to work out if it is still there, or has gone.




That is it?

paoloh

8,617 posts

204 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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WTF?

bertelli_1

2,237 posts

210 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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Only one way to be sure, get in there & have a look yourself.

SLCZ3

1,207 posts

205 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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Get a very large magnet and lower it in on a rope? see if that will lift it out, or buy a gimp outfit and go diving in.

paoloh

8,617 posts

204 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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SLCZ3 said:
Get a very large magnet and lower it in on a rope? see if that will lift it out, or buy a gimp outfit and go diving in.

Mr Green

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936 posts

182 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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The chisel might very well be gone but I need to know for sure, If I hadn't been there when he kicked it down then maybe and I'm only saying maybe he would have kept quiet, I would. With the lid off the sabba you can flush the toilet and watch the contents flowing by left to right about 20 seconds later. The chisel if it's still in there would be about 10 to 20 inches out the sabba to the right,out of sight stuck on the bend and reducing the flow by about 50%.
Again if it was me I would get another chisel and pretend to fish it out then show it to the owner of the property, take my money and go. I thought of using ice in the shape of tennis balls and see if 2 dozen of them disappear, if they don't then there is a blockage but at least the ice would melt and I'd be left knowing that it's still in there. Admittedly it doesn't get it out but i'm hoping it's not there and that the ice flows away

Mr Green

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936 posts

182 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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SLCZ3 said:
Get a very large magnet and lower it in on a rope? see if that will lift it out, or buy a gimp outfit and go diving in.
Knowing my luck the magnet would get stuck along with 2 foot of rope.

Dogwatch

6,226 posts

222 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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Mr Green said:
SLCZ3 said:
Get a very large magnet and lower it in on a rope? see if that will lift it out, or buy a gimp outfit and go diving in.
Knowing my luck the magnet would get stuck along with 2 foot of rope.
Something like this though not going to get to you very soon in Cyprus.

Simpo Two

85,361 posts

265 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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Dogwatch said:
Mr Green said:
SLCZ3 said:
Get a very large magnet and lower it in on a rope? see if that will lift it out, or buy a gimp outfit and go diving in.
Knowing my luck the magnet would get stuck along with 2 foot of rope.
Something like this though not going to get to you very soon in Cyprus.
Wow, I have one of those my father bought in about 1970 - exactly the same! He got it to recover windlasses from canals. Sticks like st!

SLCZ3

1,207 posts

205 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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Mr Green said:
SLCZ3 said:
Get a very large magnet and lower it in on a rope? see if that will lift it out, or buy a gimp outfit and go diving in.
Knowing my luck the magnet would get stuck along with 2 foot of rope.
Well get a wiley coyote type long hooked implement and fish around in there until you can confirm one way or the other.
PS what size are you, i have a rubber gimp outfit for a reasonable price.
( no not going cheep!!!)

Edited by SLCZ3 on Friday 1st May 13:34

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

248 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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If it's that close you should be able to feel if anything is there with a drain rod or two.

davidjpowell

17,811 posts

184 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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or the Cyprus version of Dynorod with Video survey?

Autonotiv

2,673 posts

224 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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davidjpowell said:
or the Cyprus version of Dynorod with Video survey?
Ditto, get a camera down there.

Mr Green

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936 posts

182 months

Saturday 2nd May 2009
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It's failed the ice test but on a brighter note it seems to be only 12 inches max out of sight. If I lower a small child down there by their ankles I'm sure they could easily get it out.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

182 months

Saturday 2nd May 2009
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Autonotiv said:
davidjpowell said:
or the Cyprus version of Dynorod with Video survey?
Ditto, get a camera down there.
Two ways of knowing if its still down there. First is to shell out for a CCTV survey (which isn't cheap in the UK, so no idea in Cyprus.) If you do that and the chisels not there, great, you're £150 out of pocket (or however much it costs.) If it is still down there, you call said firm and get them to a) work out how they're going to recover it and b) pay for the CCTV. Then see how amenable they are to that idea. Personally I'd get the same firm to do it if they do CCTV work.

Grief all round. If you've got a small child and loose morals, lob them down there and don't let them out until they find a chisel. Much less agro.