Why is my mixer shower always cold?

Why is my mixer shower always cold?

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leothetiler

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243 posts

194 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Moved into our house a couple of years ago, and for some reason the shower in the en-suite has always been cold, but have no idea why.

The house was only built 5 years ago, so it is not that old and it just takes the water from the hot water tank so cannot see how anything can really go wrong.

People have suggested it may be limescale causing a blockage or an air block in the hot water pipe.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Would it help just replacing the mixer or do you think it may be something more fundamental like not enough hot water pressure?

Getting very fed up with a cold shower in the mornings.

dickymint

24,332 posts

258 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Switch your boiler on you tight git!





















wink

JulesV

1,800 posts

224 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Don't be such a wimp. A cold shower never did anyone any harm.

leothetiler

Original Poster:

243 posts

194 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Thanks for all the useful input! wink

pies

13,116 posts

256 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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leothetiler said:
Moved into our house a couple of years ago, and for some reason the shower in the en-suite has always been cold, but have no idea why.

The house was only built 5 years ago, so it is not that old and it just takes the water from the hot water tank so cannot see how anything can really go wrong.

People have suggested it may be limescale causing a blockage or an air block in the hot water pipe.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Would it help just replacing the mixer or do you think it may be something more fundamental like not enough hot water pressure?

Getting very fed up with a cold shower in the mornings.
Well that doesn't compute,to prove this turn off the water supply to the cylinder,make sure the boiler isn't trying to heat up the tank

Turn on the shower,if any water comes out is coming from your cold supply

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

241 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Thermostatic showers can scale up over time and if they're always left on one temperature then the gubbins inside can stop moving so freely.

Whilst it is running, try moving the temperature from lowest to highest a few times.

leothetiler

Original Poster:

243 posts

194 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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I should have said the hot comes from the hot water tank and the cold from the cold supply. Does not use a combi to heat the hot water.

DavidY

4,459 posts

284 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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For a mixer system, surely the hot should come from the hot tank and the cold from the cold tank, this way both inputs are at the same presure. If your cold is coming from the cold supply (ie mains) then that is likely to be at a much higher presure and therefore the hot won't get a look in.


leothetiler

Original Poster:

243 posts

194 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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rsv gone! said:
Thermostatic showers can scale up over time and if they're always left on one temperature then the gubbins inside can stop moving so freely.

Whilst it is running, try moving the temperature from lowest to highest a few times.
I have just tried that and there is a definite improvement! If you touch the mixer where the water comes out the wall it is boiling, but it just seems that it is not making its way to the shower head. Thanks for the advice, sounds like it is just a bit blocked up.

Ferg

15,242 posts

257 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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It's likely to be the thermostatic cartridge not moving due to scale. Take it apart and clean the surfaces that the 'o'-ring slides on with one of those plastic scourers. Make sure you clean any scale from the cartridge itself and then grease it with silicon grease.

leothetiler

Original Poster:

243 posts

194 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Ferg said:
It's likely to be the thermostatic cartridge not moving due to scale. Take it apart and clean the surfaces that the 'o'-ring slides on with one of those plastic scourers. Make sure you clean any scale from the cartridge itself and then grease it with silicon grease.
Thanks for the advice, will give it a go. I have looked in the loft above the shower and I cannot find the isolater for the hot and cold. How do I stop the water so I dont get soaked when I take the shower off?

Ferg

15,242 posts

257 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Turn off the isolator for the hot cylinder. The valve on the cold feed to the bottom of the cylinder. The cold *should* be a dedicated supply which comes from it's own tank connector in the roof space.... Gatevalve (or similar) may be adjacent to tank or in airing cupboard?

Isoproturon1

3,619 posts

201 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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It is almost as if I wrote the OP. We replaced the cartridge in our Aqua Lisa for the same reason - although it was only 3 years old when we moved in, the en suite shower did the same as yours. Limescale was the issue.

Ferg

15,242 posts

257 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Isoproturon1 said:
It is almost as if I wrote the OP. We replaced the cartridge in our Aqua Lisa for the same reason - although it was only 3 years old when we moved in, the en suite shower did the same as yours. Limescale was the issue.
That's interesting. Aqualisa cartridges are much less prone to it due to the design of the holes on the centre shaft. These clear scale off when the temperature lever is moved. Unfortunately many people never move it. They used to recommend swinging the lever side to side once a week...

rfisher

5,024 posts

283 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Had this with a Mira thermostatic shower a while back.

Having stripped it down, cleaned it all out, silicon greased the lot and reassembled it - it still didn't work.

A new cartridge was around £150 so it went in the bin and I bought a new ceramic disk manual mixer unit off Ebay for £30.

Job done.

Best shower in the house now Summer or Winter.

mrobin33

930 posts

224 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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Hitting it with a hammer will dislodge enough limescale to make it work for a while. Same with my radiator valves - all stuck when you first turn on the heating in the winter, bashing them does the trick although it can be loud if you have neighbours.

If you replace the mixer get as cheap one as possible as they work as well. Also make it a power shower with a pump then you can have a REAL shower and less chance of scale build up. Running it cold for a minute after getting out helps too.

By the way eating a hot variety of radish as you get out of bed can help with taking a cold shower.