Keeping pets in cages - cruel?
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GokTweed said:
therealpigdog said:
GokTweed said:
The Mrs. and I went to Chester zoo almost a month ago. That was a sorry sight
Looks like you had a lovely time ...
Sorry, I couldn't resist - absolutely no offence intended
Dusty964 said:
GokTweed said:
therealpigdog said:
GokTweed said:
The Mrs. and I went to Chester zoo almost a month ago. That was a sorry sight
Looks like you had a lovely time ...Sorry, I couldn't resist - absolutely no offence intended
Some time ago (whilst still married) we bought a cute little GSD puppy. While we were house-training him he was kept in an indoor kennel (basically a large cage). He was happy with this and had his blankey, water-bowl and food bowl in there.
Fast forward two years when he had developed into a huge lump of a dog! His favourite refuge? The indoor kennel! He would crawl in and, somehow, turn round so his head was at the door, which was never closed. He just seemed to get comfort from being in their, much to everyone's amusement as he had to squash himself upu against all sides!
Fast forward two years when he had developed into a huge lump of a dog! His favourite refuge? The indoor kennel! He would crawl in and, somehow, turn round so his head was at the door, which was never closed. He just seemed to get comfort from being in their, much to everyone's amusement as he had to squash himself upu against all sides!
We had to keep our dogs in cages when we moved house and had no fence, and a garden full of builders. I hated it, and would take them out for a walk morning and evening, all five of them.....
Now though, they have the run of the yard but go back to their cages at night, or whenever they want some shelter from the sun.
We keep the new pups in a cage, but the small door flap is open so they alone can go in, and the big ones don't 'pinch' their sleeping spot.
In the next street is a huge Rottweiler that I have never seen outside of his cage, no matter what time of the day or night I walk past. He leaps up and runs round in tiny circles every time he sees another dog walk past, poor bugger. His cage is maybe 3' x 4'.
Now though, they have the run of the yard but go back to their cages at night, or whenever they want some shelter from the sun.
We keep the new pups in a cage, but the small door flap is open so they alone can go in, and the big ones don't 'pinch' their sleeping spot.
In the next street is a huge Rottweiler that I have never seen outside of his cage, no matter what time of the day or night I walk past. He leaps up and runs round in tiny circles every time he sees another dog walk past, poor bugger. His cage is maybe 3' x 4'.
King Herald said:
In the next street is a huge Rottweiler that I have never seen outside of his cage, no matter what time of the day or night I walk past. He leaps up and runs round in tiny circles every time he sees another dog walk past, poor bugger. His cage is maybe 3' x 4'.
I know when a pound rescue has been in a cage all of its life as it just goes around in circles. Not just circles on the way to the door when it sees the lead come out, but constantly. Upatdawn said:
lets see now
how many animals would live in cages in nature?
mmmmmm, im struggling here..............
But animals, such as wolves, live in caves in nature. By having a cozy place that is their own and they can come and go as they please is the equivilant. how many animals would live in cages in nature?
mmmmmm, im struggling here..............
Agreed, if you keep a pet locked in one all day that is cruel, but by having one which is their own wee home then I don't see the problem.
My trio mow me down in the excitement to get in theirs at night or if I go out. When they had them in the kitchen they'd sleep in them during the day with the door open. I try and avoid leaving them for any great length of time and mine have more exercise than they could ever need.
So are they cruel? Not if used in a responsible manner, and not for punishment.
My three will be outside sleeping in the run in a few weeks when the
towers west wing extension is finished. Is that cruel, not really so long as they are dry they'll be fine snuggled up in 18inches of saw dust, plus the run is bigger then most peoples kitchens.
So are they cruel? Not if used in a responsible manner, and not for punishment.
My three will be outside sleeping in the run in a few weeks when the
towers west wing extension is finished. Is that cruel, not really so long as they are dry they'll be fine snuggled up in 18inches of saw dust, plus the run is bigger then most peoples kitchens.boy said: My three will be outside sleeping in the run in a few weeks when the towers west wing extension is finished. Is that cruel, not really so long as they are dry they'll be fine snuggled up in 18inches of saw dust, plus the run is bigger then most peoples kitchens.
Ours live outside on a permanent basis, never come in the house, ever. We do live in the tropics so we don't exactly get freezing weather. towers west wing extension is finished. Is that cruel, not really so long as they are dry they'll be fine snuggled up in 18inches of saw dust, plus the run is bigger then most peoples kitchens.
During rainy season we make sure they aren't going to get wet, put some cover up to stop the sideways rain, but generally they are quite comfortable. On hot days they sleep on the floor, or find some shade out of the sun, if it is cooler then get into their cages to snooze.
King Herald said:
Ours live outside on a permanent basis, never come in the house, ever. We do live in the tropics so we don't exactly get freezing weather. During rainy season we make sure they aren't going to get wet, put some cover up to stop the sideways rain, but generally they are quite comfortable.
On hot days they sleep on the floor, or find some shade out of the sun, if it is cooler then get into their cages to snooze.
Hi KH, During rainy season we make sure they aren't going to get wet, put some cover up to stop the sideways rain, but generally they are quite comfortable. On hot days they sleep on the floor, or find some shade out of the sun, if it is cooler then get into their cages to snooze.
Off topic but my company has a project to build a call centre in the Phillipines. The people on the ground were talking about the monsoon season being a show stopper and to avoid at all costs. Is that fairdinkum? He mentioned that for around a week you wouldn't dare go outside.
Ta
dmulally said:
Hi KH,
Off topic but my company has a project to build a call centre in the Phillipines. The people on the ground were talking about the monsoon season being a show stopper and to avoid at all costs. Is that fairdinkum? He mentioned that for around a week you wouldn't dare go outside.
Ta
A week? The monsoon season that has recently finished has seen torrential rain almost every day for three months. There were mega floods all around Manila and Luzon in general. The rain just seemed to go on and on and on. Every day it would be grey and cloudy, and then it would rain, for ten hours. 12" of rain in one session some days. Off topic but my company has a project to build a call centre in the Phillipines. The people on the ground were talking about the monsoon season being a show stopper and to avoid at all costs. Is that fairdinkum? He mentioned that for around a week you wouldn't dare go outside.
Ta
It might not be as bad every year but it certainly seems a lot wetter than when we lived there ten years ago. Wherever they plan to build the call centre, do some research and check out the flooding scene, not only for the building itself, but for the people who have to come to work every day.
My dog has a crate, he came home from the breeder in it, the breeder uses them.
He knows it as his bed, he gets free roam of the house and garden during the day, if we're going out for a little while he goes in it. He sleeps there during the day and goes in for night time.
It has a thick bed in it and a blanket over the top. He goes in it if his own accord at times for a snooze and at night times.
He does get plenty of long walks and play time, I'm also trying to find a way of getting a warm/hot water tap to go next to the cold one to give him a wash as he loves charging through muddy puddles....
He knows it as his bed, he gets free roam of the house and garden during the day, if we're going out for a little while he goes in it. He sleeps there during the day and goes in for night time.
It has a thick bed in it and a blanket over the top. He goes in it if his own accord at times for a snooze and at night times.
He does get plenty of long walks and play time, I'm also trying to find a way of getting a warm/hot water tap to go next to the cold one to give him a wash as he loves charging through muddy puddles....
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