RE: VW Golf R: Driven

Thursday 13th April 2017

2017 Volkswagen Golf R (Mk7.5) | Review

Mid-life facelift time for the all conquering Golf!



Has it really been three years since the Golf R emerged - burst seems a little OTT for a Golf - onto the hot hatch scene? Back in 2014 300hp and £30K were the big selling points, the fact it came in a socially acceptable and subtly sporting Golf body enough to convince swathes of supporters.

While those fans at times seem almost infinite in number, PH has never been the most ardent advocate of the Golf R. You may have noticed. While certainly brisk enough and really capable, for us it lacked that bit of spark that marks out the best hot hatches. The excitement that characterises our favourites was conspicuous by its absence. Compounding the R's problem were those fast Golfs further down the range: the FWD GTI Clubsport and Clubsport S were just as fast (once beyond the Top Trumps stats) and just as accommodating (alright, if you ignore the missing rear seats in the S) as the R, but crucially added some edge and involvement missing from the supposed flagship. They have remained our choice of performance Golf for a while - the CS indeed one of the best driver's cars of 2016 - and very competitive in the segment.

There is reason to be encouraged by the prospect of this latest R though, chiefly because the Performance Pack has been confirmed for the UK. Though full equipment and a price are yet to be finalised, it will at least include the Akrapovic exhaust seen on the Geneva show car, the larger front discs with more aggressive pads and the altered body styling for aero benefit. Interestingly the Pirelli Trofeo Rs seen on that car have been ditched, the cars here all on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s. Confusing matters even further, the Cup 2 is in fact already available to order on the R - the Performance Pack is expected later this year - with the 19-inch Pretoria wheel option. Whether it will become part of the Performance Pack or remain a separate option is TBC.


There's no opportunity to try the Performance Packed R on the road sadly, the only driving taking place on the Circuito Mallorca. All cars are with the PP and the Cup 2s, which must sound like a foreign language to non-car folk. Our particular drive also involved sharing a car with a man named Jonathan, who comprehensively proved that the brakes are most certainly up to the job (it's been a while since I've footwell braked that much) and that Cup 2s aren't impervious to understeer if you barrel into a corner much, much too quickly. Jonathan, I sincerely hope we never, ever share a car again.

In the driver's seat and with some life still miraculously remaining in the consumables, it's time for our four laps. Much is familiar from the previous Golf R inside, and none the worse for it. The infotainment system is now fully touchscreen (with haptic buttons for the volume and menu) and the virtual cockpit - or Active Info Display, in VW speak - has made its way to between the dials, but the excellent driving position remains unchanged. If VW can sit the driver low, why do so many other manufacturers struggle with hot hatch driving positions?

There's no way an additional 10hp on a 300hp car could be felt, the sense instead being that there's some spec sheet bragging to do and hierarchy to maintain against the SEAT Leon Cupra ST. Again it's a decent engine, offering a broad spread of power and torque with sharp responses; it doesn't quite have the appetite for revs of something like a 308 GTI or Civic Type R, but the EA888 is a very good engine. The Akrapovic is certainly entertaining for anyone outside the car, those four pipes - now all functional, in fact - roaring through the rev range and belching upshifts out profusely. Sadly it's not available on the estate, which is the car we are allocated, the overriding noise in there still the oddly aggressive augmented drone. But if the Akrapovic can drown out some of that then it's worth every penny!


Despite Jonathan's best efforts, the Cup 2s still have some life in them and again prove why they're fitted on everything from hot hatches to hypercars. Turn-in is more immediate and more precise, the steering just that fraction swifter to respond and grip levels higher. On the very odd occasions that grip runs out it does so progressively and predictably. While they may not be great for on-road accessibility, for track performance the Michelins are superbly confidence inspiring.

The brake upgrade feels worthwhile as well, the pedal response more natural and the car shedding speed very well. Fast VW brakes aren't always the best, with an occasionally snatchy response at the top of the pedal, but these feel a significant improvement.

In fact the biggest issue on track is the DSG gearbox fitted to all test cars - it doesn't always deliver downshifts when requested, but also changes up prematurely out of slower bends. The car wheelspins in second gear but, by the time power reaches the rear wheels and settles the car, the car changes into third because the revs ae too high. This despite Race and manual modes being selected. On one occasion the car changed up to third then immediately back down to second because the speed was low enough that full throttle warranted kick down. Curious.


While it may be unfair to compare the Golf R estate with hatch rivals, it's the only comparison that can currently be made. The big thing being that the Haldex AWD simply doesn't feel all that clever anymore, at least on track. Perhaps not all that relevant, but if that's where the car is going to be launched... Put simply there are now options like the Focus RS - you knew it was coming at some point - and AMG A45 (with the optional front limited-slip diff) that promise more excitement from four driven wheels.

That's not to diminish the Golf R's achievement - this remains a very high quality and thoroughly talented fast car - simply that this is not the facelift to convince any detractors of its apparently boundless perfection. Against the AWD Leon the Golf R's case is strong because the prices are likely to be close; however there is still a FWD Leon Cupra estate that comes recommended thanks to its more energetic dynamics, even if it's perhaps not as fit for every purpose as the 4Motion Golf.

The Performance Pack certainly feels worth some additional outlay, full details of which should be forthcoming soon. Could a manual hatchback R with that kit be the car to, well, realise the R's potential? To be continued!



SPECIFICATION | 2017-2020 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF R HATCH (MK7.5)
Engine:
1,984cc 4-cyl, turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, all-wheel drive (7-speed DSG optional)
Power (hp): 310@5,500-6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 280@2,000-5,400rpm
0-62mph: 5.1 seconds (4.6)
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 1,483kg (to EU, with 75kg driver) (1,505kg)
CO2: 180g/km (160-163g/km)
MPG: 35.8 (NEDC combined) (39.8-40.4)
Price: TBC
[Figures in brackets for DSG gearbox, where different)

SPECIFICATION | 2017-2020 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF R ESTATE (MK7.5)
Engine:
1,984cc 4-cyl, turbo
Transmission: 7-speed DSG, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 310@5,500-6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 295@2,000-5,400rpm
0-62mph: 4.8 seconds
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 1,593kg (to EU, with 75kg driver)
CO2: 164g/km
MPG: 39.2 (NEDC combined)
Price: TBC

 







Author
Discussion

epom

Original Poster:

11,491 posts

161 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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Terrible, over rated. Its how much for a Golf ?? Its too heavy. Needs to be RWD.

MikeGoodwin

3,337 posts

117 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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Few of my mates have these and I would sooner have my Megane RS. But if you want a rapid 8/10ths car thats fool proof to drive then the Golf R suits perfectly. I can fully understand why I see so many of them on the road given the lease prices that were available.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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Epic, all the real world car anyone could ever need.

generationx

6,712 posts

105 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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Cue an overwhelming amount of scorn and hatred from a bunch of contributors who never have and never will drive one...

lee_erm

1,091 posts

193 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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The piano black plastic on the dashboard is a bit tacky. The rest of it isn't bad though!

308mate

13,757 posts

222 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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I saw one of these get smoked by an M6 in Guildford on Sunday. It was quite an interesting little match up.

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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"where previously the Leon could be recommended (and still is, if you can find one)"

The facelift Leon ST Cupra remains available as a FWD manual with lsd so the recommendation stands?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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Interesting that the estate has a higher combined NED rating than the hatchback. I guess you can carry more weed. Innit.

tankplanker

2,479 posts

279 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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epom said:
Terrible, over rated. Its how much for a Golf ?? Its too heavy. Needs to be RWD.
Price and weight is comparable with its competitors, in fact its lighter than the Focus RS, A45, and M140i, only the front wheel drive hot hatches are noticeably lighter. When comparing a like for like spec the Golf is slightly cheaper as it has a large amount of stuff as standard. Rear wheel drive would be quite the change considering the Golf has always been front wheel or 4 wheel drive.

Not sure if there wasn't a missed opportunity with the performance pack to increase power even further, another 10 or 20 BHP over the now standard 310 would have helped sell performance packs. Top trumps matters to enough buyers of performance models.

With mine having been stolen I'm not sure I'd bother with another one. I thought it would be a bit more Q car than a Focus RS but it is just as popular to steal.

SirSquidalot

4,041 posts

165 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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Fantastic thing, really is everything you need.

is1

188 posts

148 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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epom said:
Terrible, over rated. Its how much for a Golf ?? Its too heavy. Needs to be RWD.
Whoosh parrot?

Billyray911

1,072 posts

204 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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Can you confirm whether the estate is now a fully connected exhaust system,like the hatch has always been?

spookly

4,018 posts

95 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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I don't get all the hate for the R.
I have an R Estate. For the silly lease prices these have been available you would struggle to get anything near as capable or interesting, while still being practical.
Not even worth comparing on list price, as the lease deals have been so silly. Whereas you'd never get the same cheap deals on any of the French hot hatches.

Dave Hedgehog

14,549 posts

204 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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Helicopter123 said:
Epic, all the real world car anyone could ever need.
except they fit a fake engine sound speaker in the engine bay which for me makes it totally undesirable

i would happily fork out a lot more money for an RS3 or A45 to have a real engine noise rather than to be scammed by VW

i cant deny that on the cheap lease deals its an awful lot of car for very little cash

jbaddeley

829 posts

205 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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Superb daily do everything car. Agree with Mike that the Meg is more exciting but the Golf is the better all rounder. Be interesting to see what the new Meg RS is like.

MDMA .

8,884 posts

101 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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I like them. Problem is, the 2 people i know who have had them, both had them robbed in the night, from home, via break-insfrown

Roger Irrelevant

2,927 posts

113 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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epom said:
Terrible, over rated. Its how much for a Golf ?? Its too heavy. Needs to be RWD.
House!

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

184 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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I've done 24k in my 15' DSG and recently extended the lease because I like it so much. I'm 99% sure that I'll be getting this one next. Easily the best car I've ever owned/leased

Edited by DUMBO100 on Thursday 13th April 11:26

AMGJocky

1,407 posts

116 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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epom said:
Terrible, over rated. Its how much for a Golf ?? Its too heavy. Needs to be RWD.
I see you're a fan. It definitely doesn't need to be RWD.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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I chose a 140 as to me the Golf doesn't seem to have a lot of character.