Morgan takes a nasty hit

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geeman237

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1,232 posts

185 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
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A bad judgement by the Morgan owner I'd say, but the other car appeared to make no attempt to avoid impact.
https://youtu.be/lLBuedP9rQA

thebraketester

14,221 posts

138 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
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What a knobhead. rolleyes

TR4man

5,222 posts

174 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
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thebraketester said:
What a knobhead. rolleyes
In both cars, I'd say.

Wacky Racer

38,140 posts

247 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
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Definitely mostly the Morgan owners fault, should have waited in the central reservation for the car to pass, but the other car didn't appear to try to brake or take any avoiding action.


thebraketester

14,221 posts

138 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
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TR4man said:
In both cars, I'd say.
He pulled out in front of a car that was doing at a guess 60MPH, with not enough time/power to avoid being rear ended.

If the morgan had a turbo, he would have been fine. :-)

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

86 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
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Wacky Racer said:
Definitely mostly the Morgan owners fault, should have waited in the central reservation for the car to pass, but the other car didn't appear to try to brake or take any avoiding action.
Watched that several times, the Peugeot clearly brakes prior to impact, it's visible on the high brake light & moves to the left, kicking up dust from the verge. Morgan at fault. No matter how nice the car might be, there's no points for marque.

swooshiain

377 posts

97 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
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100% the Morgan's fault. Peugeot was braking the entire time it was in frame, only ABS will have stopped it from skidding. And even worse, I would guess their car will be written off while the Morgan will likely be repairable.

ClaphamGT3

11,292 posts

243 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
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Hard not to put 100% blame on the Morgan

Brads67

3,199 posts

98 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
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Morgan driver was a dick

Pug driver was 100% blameless

mark387mw

2,177 posts

267 months

Saturday 15th April 2017
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Not exactly the same circumstances as the Morgan but an effective message we're getting here in New Zealand.
https://youtu.be/KdOnF2v0mXM

jjohnson23

699 posts

113 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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Be interesting to see how this pans out,as normally running into the back of another car puts you at blame.
Even if the flat capped tt was in the wrong.
Oh,and fked up some one else`s day.
Nob jockey.

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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Now you know why Clarkson takes the p*ss out of Pug and Morgan drivers...

InitialDave

11,880 posts

119 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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Totally the Morgan driver's fault.

It kind of looks like the Peugeot perhaps isn't full-on with their braking, which might possibly have helped a little, but they were certainly trying to stop, and I expect they were in that situation where your brain's still processing through yes, that fking idiot really did just do that.

Bloody good job it wasn't a biker coming along.

Glasgowrob

3,240 posts

121 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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Did the morgan driver even take a cautionary look to his left?


utter muppet

ex1

2,729 posts

236 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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mark387mw said:
Not exactly the same circumstances as the Morgan but an effective message we're getting here in New Zealand.
https://youtu.be/KdOnF2v0mXM
Powerful advert

I'd say the pug was speeding and could have avoided it but bulk of blame with the Morgan.


Edited by ex1 on Sunday 16th April 02:15

Shoegrip

399 posts

91 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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Very difficult to be conclusive over this as the area shown by the video is too limited but that looks a long way from being down to the Morgan driver.

The Moggy had already gone quite a way down the road before the Pug comes into frame braking very hard. As it comes into frame, we don't know how long it had been braking but is still doing quite a speed so is likely to have been using excess speed for that kind of road.

The Moggy also starts accelerating, then pauses as if it missed a gearchange.

There just isn't enough info in the video but in simple terms, the Moggy was able to straighten up, the Pug will be deemed to have been going too fast and rear ended the Moggy.

A dashcam for the Pug might have saved his NCD although the witnesses might help.

Wacky Racer

38,140 posts

247 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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Shoegrip said:
Very difficult to be conclusive over this as the area shown by the video is too limited but that looks a long way from being down to the Morgan driver.

The Moggy had already gone quite a way down the road before the Pug comes into frame braking very hard. As it comes into frame, we don't know how long it had been braking but is still doing quite a speed so is likely to have been using excess speed for that kind of road.

The Moggy also starts accelerating, then pauses as if it missed a gearchange.

There just isn't enough info in the video but in simple terms, the Moggy was able to straighten up, the Pug will be deemed to have been going too fast and rear ended the Moggy.

A dashcam for the Pug might have saved his NCD although the witnesses might help.
If the Morgan driver had stopped looked to his left, when he was on the central reservation (like he should have done), he would have seen the other car approaching at some speed, and waited until it had passed. Not rocket science.

Also, I notice there was some kind of car meet going on in the field to the right, I'm wondering whether there was some element of "showing off" to the crowd, giving it a bit of welly?

WR. (A Morgan driver)

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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Unlikely that the Morganist would have had a clear view of the carriageway as he crossed the central reservation at such an acute angle, he achieved the acute angle by crossing the solid hatching.

Shoegrip

399 posts

91 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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It is easy to jump to conclusions but there just isn't enough information in the limited camera view.

bga

8,134 posts

251 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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Shoegrip said:
It is easy to jump to conclusions but there just isn't enough information in the limited camera view.
What more info is required? The Morgan driver intentionally performed a dangerous manoeuvre. If they had good visibility then it was avoidable and dangerous. If they were partially unsighted it was also avoidable dangerous. I hope they get hit with at DWDCA at a minimum. It is obvious from the video that the other car was braking to avoid a collision that was not their fault.