Ultra HD Premium 4K TVs
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Hi all!
So I'm thinking of replacing the TV (7 year old Sharp Aquos) which to be fair is still in perfect working condition. However it's fairly old now and I'm really tempted to watch some 4K content.
The choice seems to be abundant for the 47"-55" size range however I've noticed few are tagged as "Ultra HD Premium certified". These also seem to command a premium over the usual UHD 4K TVs and are priced over £1300+.
My question is, should I wait around a while longer? I'm looking for 55" max size which can support Netflix 4K streams. Ideally I would like to spend about £800ish definitely below a grand.
So I'm thinking of replacing the TV (7 year old Sharp Aquos) which to be fair is still in perfect working condition. However it's fairly old now and I'm really tempted to watch some 4K content.
The choice seems to be abundant for the 47"-55" size range however I've noticed few are tagged as "Ultra HD Premium certified". These also seem to command a premium over the usual UHD 4K TVs and are priced over £1300+.
My question is, should I wait around a while longer? I'm looking for 55" max size which can support Netflix 4K streams. Ideally I would like to spend about £800ish definitely below a grand.
How long is a while longer? There is always something new coming along isn't there?
I've a Samsung ue55kk6020 55" that I primarily watch Netflix and other streaming stuff on
It was £499
I'm no connoisseur, but I couldn't really see the differences (or any use to me of them) the JL sales person was showing me on the more expensive ones
I've a Samsung ue55kk6020 55" that I primarily watch Netflix and other streaming stuff on
It was £499
I'm no connoisseur, but I couldn't really see the differences (or any use to me of them) the JL sales person was showing me on the more expensive ones
JPJPJP said:
I'm no connoisseur, but I couldn't really see the differences (or any use to me of them) the JL sales person was showing me on the more expensive ones
Yep, I'd say the content isn't there - you'd need to be watching UHD blu-ray to properly notice any difference (and even then depends on the movie itself). Don't let netflix kid you - a good 1080p Blu Ray disc can look far superior to anything netflix can stream - it may technically be 4k, but doesn't mean you'll feel the £1K+ tv was worth it. Unless you are happy to invest in UHD blu ray then you'll struggle to really get the value from 4k.SD to HD was a far bigger jump than HD to 4K IMO.
JPJPJP said:
How long is a while longer? There is always something new coming along isn't there?
I've a Samsung ue55kk6020 55" that I primarily watch Netflix and other streaming stuff on
It was £499
I'm no connoisseur, but I couldn't really see the differences (or any use to me of them) the JL sales person was showing me on the more expensive ones
I've got the same TV.I've a Samsung ue55kk6020 55" that I primarily watch Netflix and other streaming stuff on
It was £499
I'm no connoisseur, but I couldn't really see the differences (or any use to me of them) the JL sales person was showing me on the more expensive ones
I sit about 10/12 feet from the telly and can discern no difference between 4k and 1080.
If you sit 3 feet away yes there is a difference.
1080 picture is, to my eyes, superb.
6 feet or so from a 55. I can tell the difference. I also have a player and use BT Sport UHD. 4K is pretty good on Netflix, the bit rate is pegged on both Netflix and BT, there are some duds. The player is very good with 4K but what it is mastered in counts. This means you need a minimum ADSL speed for the streamed content. Though I wish I had gone for a 65.
However, the only person that can answer that is you. If you are happy with it, get some demo content on a stick and ask the sales person to load it up for you. Plenty of manufactures have their own.
Shops will probably have a default setting for show rooms.
Some demo material here though it is probably the best vs a streaming content.
http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?cat=demouhd
I was able to see a standard HD next to a UHD of the same model that I bought to compare upscaling and then one with 4K demo. My eyes made the choice.
If they have the TV hooked up to the net (dunno if they do this) plenty of demos on youtube.
I view it as a long term purchase so went for it.
However, the only person that can answer that is you. If you are happy with it, get some demo content on a stick and ask the sales person to load it up for you. Plenty of manufactures have their own.
Shops will probably have a default setting for show rooms.
Some demo material here though it is probably the best vs a streaming content.
http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?cat=demouhd
I was able to see a standard HD next to a UHD of the same model that I bought to compare upscaling and then one with 4K demo. My eyes made the choice.
If they have the TV hooked up to the net (dunno if they do this) plenty of demos on youtube.
I view it as a long term purchase so went for it.
I'm looking into purchasing in summer so in 2-3 months.
I have a 4K Samsung 28" PC monitor and have watched a 4K Netflix stream and I can't really tell difference.
The demo video I see in the shops looked really sharp but I suppose it's special content.
There's currently 3 TVs in the house:
1) 3 year old Samsung 32" Smart TV in the bedroom : happy with quality for now but looking into upgrading to 40" 4K in few months if I can get approval from the missus
2) Brand new JVC HD LT-40C750 40" in kitchen. Cheapish tv bought on a whim. Hooked into XBOX 360 to stream Netflix. Pretty decent except when sitting close. Don't think there's anything else I can do here to improve except maybe try a better streaming machine? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
3) 6 year old Sharp Aquos with 1080p res in the living room. Been faultless over the years but now tempted by UHD and thinner Smart TVs. This is the one I'm thinking of replacing. Currently have HTPC hooked to it running Radeon HD6450 but getting screen tearing when streaming Netflix in the telly. Should be solved by built in Netflix app in new telly? Upgrading HTPC isn't an option as the case is full (also used as server/NAS)
I have a 4K Samsung 28" PC monitor and have watched a 4K Netflix stream and I can't really tell difference.
The demo video I see in the shops looked really sharp but I suppose it's special content.
There's currently 3 TVs in the house:
1) 3 year old Samsung 32" Smart TV in the bedroom : happy with quality for now but looking into upgrading to 40" 4K in few months if I can get approval from the missus
2) Brand new JVC HD LT-40C750 40" in kitchen. Cheapish tv bought on a whim. Hooked into XBOX 360 to stream Netflix. Pretty decent except when sitting close. Don't think there's anything else I can do here to improve except maybe try a better streaming machine? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
3) 6 year old Sharp Aquos with 1080p res in the living room. Been faultless over the years but now tempted by UHD and thinner Smart TVs. This is the one I'm thinking of replacing. Currently have HTPC hooked to it running Radeon HD6450 but getting screen tearing when streaming Netflix in the telly. Should be solved by built in Netflix app in new telly? Upgrading HTPC isn't an option as the case is full (also used as server/NAS)
Edited by crazy about cars on Sunday 23 April 14:03
Ultra HD Premium is certification that is given to TVs that meet certain criteria - you can see the specs here. https://www.whathifi.com/advice/ultra-hd-premium-w...
In reality what it means is you're getting a higher standard of TV. Can't say I'm much of an expert on this, but found out the hard way that it does make a difference. Wanted to upgrade from a Panasonic 50" plasma, and mistakenly just bought a Samsung UHD TV, one of the 6000 series. Hated it - the picture was a complete downgrade from the Panny, especially the washed out blacks.
Took it back, did some research and bought this instead - night and day difference in my eyes - http://www.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/samsu...
It's also looks amazing - incredibly thin and almost non-existant bezels. At £850 with a 6 year warranty it's a steal.
In reality what it means is you're getting a higher standard of TV. Can't say I'm much of an expert on this, but found out the hard way that it does make a difference. Wanted to upgrade from a Panasonic 50" plasma, and mistakenly just bought a Samsung UHD TV, one of the 6000 series. Hated it - the picture was a complete downgrade from the Panny, especially the washed out blacks.
Took it back, did some research and bought this instead - night and day difference in my eyes - http://www.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/samsu...
It's also looks amazing - incredibly thin and almost non-existant bezels. At £850 with a 6 year warranty it's a steal.
OP, this thread may be of interest to you: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I upgraded from a 42" Panasonic plasma to a 55" Sony XD93 4K and the difference is astonishing. And I can definitely see the difference between 1080 and 4k (which should really be called 2160!). Research, have a look in-store (bearing in mind they won't be optimally set up but it's better than not seeing at all) and decide whether you can see a difference and what it's worth to you.
I narrowed my search to the Sony and the LG OLED B6. The LG had the edge on blacks by some margin but overall the Sony looked more natural, the upscaling is superb and the £600-odd price saving as it was then was enough to tip the balance in favour of the Sony. As it happens I've since purchased an Xbox One S and am seeing some horror stories about input lag on the LG OLED panels when used for gaming. I wasn't aware of that at the time but I have to say Battlefield 1 and Forza 6 look simply jaw-dropping on the Sony and I'm pleased with the choice I made.
I upgraded from a 42" Panasonic plasma to a 55" Sony XD93 4K and the difference is astonishing. And I can definitely see the difference between 1080 and 4k (which should really be called 2160!). Research, have a look in-store (bearing in mind they won't be optimally set up but it's better than not seeing at all) and decide whether you can see a difference and what it's worth to you.
I narrowed my search to the Sony and the LG OLED B6. The LG had the edge on blacks by some margin but overall the Sony looked more natural, the upscaling is superb and the £600-odd price saving as it was then was enough to tip the balance in favour of the Sony. As it happens I've since purchased an Xbox One S and am seeing some horror stories about input lag on the LG OLED panels when used for gaming. I wasn't aware of that at the time but I have to say Battlefield 1 and Forza 6 look simply jaw-dropping on the Sony and I'm pleased with the choice I made.
I found High Dynamic Range (HDR) the biggest improvement in perceived picture quality when I upgraded from an old Panasonic Plasma to my LG. I sit about 10 foot from the TV, so the Panasonic at ~50" was too small to see the difference between 720p and 1080p. Current TV is 65", which is too small to see clear difference between (blu ray) 1080p and 4k (I'd need to be about 6 feet away) but I can see the difference between HDR content and non HDR content.
Just picked up a 50inch Panasonic 802 4K HDR (THX Cert) TV including free Panasonic 700 UHD Blu Ray player for less than 1k (18 months interest free credit too). The screen quality is simply stunning, I have linked it up to my PS4 Pro and the clarity on another level. Playing Youtube and PS4 games in 4K 60fps really is superb. It even came with a sound bar (but my Canton DM9 is still better), FreeView and more importantly for me FreeSat included. Very happy with my purchase as it replaced a 2 year old el-cheapo Toshiba 1080p TV.
I'd buy any decent review 2015/16 tv from Samsung, Panasonic or LG. Get the biggest discount you can and get it calibrated for £200 or so.
I'm running a 3 year old Samsung. Just had it calibrated. Better use of £200 than buying a new TV and will happily do all the 4k, UHD etc etc. And the picture is a genuine revelation what I had before.
I'm running a 3 year old Samsung. Just had it calibrated. Better use of £200 than buying a new TV and will happily do all the 4k, UHD etc etc. And the picture is a genuine revelation what I had before.
Mine is OK, pretty good actually but the surround sound is a must for any TV I would have thought. My amp is not the most expensive and it delivers excellent results (followed reviews and bought what I could at the time). Jurassic World for example, I swear there was something behind my potted plant that wanted to eat me.
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