Cavalier King Charles Spaniel

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MrAndyW

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508 posts

148 months

Monday 1st May 2017
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Had to have our stzhu put down in Jan, after 11 wonderful years.
Looking at getting another dog in the next few weeks/months.
Cavalier King Charles, seems to fit the bill.

The only thing is, that there will (possibly) be nobody in the house for approx 8 hrs for ONE day a week. I've read up on the breed and the only thing that comes back negative for our situation is they don't like being left along for long periods of time, apart from that it would be perfect.
Any views from owners would be appreciated.

Obviously the dogs welfare is the most important thing.
Thanks Andy.



phil-sti

2,678 posts

179 months

Monday 1st May 2017
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We looked after the mother in laws last weekend and we left it in the house all day on the Monday with no issues, just made sure it couldn't try and destroy stuff.

I always find that if you treat them that way from the start the get used to it. I have a Labrador that is home alone from 08:30 until 15:00 and he is fine

PositronicRay

27,006 posts

183 months

Monday 1st May 2017
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8 hrs is a long time to leave a dog. How about doggy day care?

Something like this

http://www.gooutpawscoventry.co.uk/

HTP99

22,531 posts

140 months

Monday 1st May 2017
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When we had 2 (we now have 3, one of which is a puppy), we rarely left them alone for that long, however in the odd times that we did, I would make sure that they had a good walk in the morning so as to tire them out to a degree, they seemed fine with it.

I wouldn't do it to a new puppy though, max 2 hours when very new and maybe up to 4 when a little further on; Daphne who is 4m is left for 4 hours max one day a week, she still has a walk in the morning with the other two though and being a puppy a good walk and a runaround after breakfast sets her up nicely for a good nap for a few hours, the wife then pops in for an hour or so, has a play and then after she is gone, our daughter is in from college a few hours later.

Greendubber

13,168 posts

203 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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Great dogs, we have one (black & tan) and she's nearly 3 now and and never caused us any issues.

We both work shifts so she very rarely has to be left for more than a few ours but it does happen we just make sure she has a decent walk in the morning. She just sleeps all day if we do have to leave her.

Just be mindful of where you get them from as they can have health issues (like most other dogs) so make sure you see the parents and make sure they're health tested. There are also lots of rescues about that have come from puppy farms that need good homes so worth a look too.

They're great dogs though, small enough not trash your house, mild mannered but still up for chasing a ball like a lunatic whilst not being a handful........rubbish guard dogs though biggrin

MrAndyW

Original Poster:

508 posts

148 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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Thanks for the replies, I'm aware of the problems with the breed and making sure they are health tested, KC reg.
Going to look at one tomorrow and we're right for her and she's right for us, then she will have a new home.
Will post up piccs.
Once again thanks for the help.

easy_rider33

153 posts

105 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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Another option is to have a dog walker pop by and take it out for an hour. We have a GSD and he's left at home but we have a dog walker come in on a morning and afternoon so he's not left more than a couple of hours without going on a walk. It can work but as always there is an extra cost involved.

Boosted LS1

21,183 posts

260 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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Surely this is one of those breeds that shouldn't be bred. Brain and eye problems spring to mind straight away. A friend had two and they both developed a cough and heart problems.

Greendubber

13,168 posts

203 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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Boosted LS1 said:
Surely this is one of those breeds that shouldn't be bred. Brain and eye problems spring to mind straight away. A friend had two and they both developed a cough and heart problems.
You could say the same for loads of breeds.

Ours is fine but you just have to make sure its been bred correctly. Get one off Gumtree from an idiot who's just wanting a quick buck and its risky, but cheap (300-400 quid)

Get one from a responsible breeder that has taken the best care they can and you'll be fine. You may pay twice as much but you'll have a perfectly healthy dog, ours set us back £900 but after numerous trips to the breeders, checking the bloodline, seeing both parents and dogs from previous litters we were happy and ours is fine. Sadly a lot of people dont take care and just get one from a puppy mill.

Boosted LS1

21,183 posts

260 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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I agree about the gumtree aspect but generally speaking a dog that looks like a king charles cavalier is pretty much doomed from the start. It's nothing like a dog but a designer thing, unfortunately. From being a dog perspective, it's got everything going against it from the start. Ridgebacks are another breed that need to be changed but the kennel club still allow their breeding just to keep the ridgeback. It's a bent corrupt system where the dogs come last. You have to wonder why. It's nice if you have a healthy one but I'd wager that dozens aren't and they truly suffer.

Morningside

24,110 posts

229 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Seems a long time but understandable sometimes. Had a couple of cavaliers (see profile) and would dearly love another. But I would say that Cavaliers seem to be a breed that thrive and live on human company more than most and being a puppy that may cause issues due to such a young age.

Like someone suggested Doggy day care or how about a dog walker? Someone who would walk them mid afternoon? Maybe there is a Cavalier group near you? I know there is a Facebook page for one near me so it might be worth asking. They may even look after them if they already have two/three.

I'm lucky as an elderly friend (79) looks after my little dog but it works both ways as her dog has someone to play with.

MrAndyW

Original Poster:

508 posts

148 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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My daughter will now be able to look after our dog for the one day now, so that is that problem solved.. Just got to find a suitable one now. I was going to look at one about 70 miles away, sort it all out on Monday,to go over on Tuesday. Phoned her Tuesday morning and she said she had decided to keep her,! oh well will keep looking.

paultownsend

2,275 posts

183 months

Saturday 13th May 2017
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Research all you can regarding MVD. Then research again.

We adopted ours from the KC breeder. My sister had a pup from both her litters.

She came with a clear heart certificate but knowing what I do now it was meaningless as it was conducted at the age of 2 and these things develop in later life. She had litters at 2.5 and 3.5 years old which KC wrongly permit.

We took her for a check up 3 weeks after pick up as the wound from her caesarean was slightly infected; the reason she couldn't have another litter. Grade 1 murmur found. Stayed like that for 2 years, a year later grade 2 and a year later grade 3. She is now 7.5. Now on Pimobendan for life.

It is currently not affecting her on the slightest, but we know that will change in future years.

We insured her from pick up so all is covered. She has an annual check up with scans and bloods with a cardiologist. I am thankful we are insured!

We will find her a companion for later life and would not consider another breed. She is simply excellent.

We would probably adopt/re home again but would insist in a health check with a vet first to guarantee an insurance policy could be put in place.

Would consider having from a puppy from a breeder but would want too see cardiology reports from at least 1 generation of both parents during later life, 10 plus.

We also found out she is a carrier put does not suffer from episodic falling syndrome which was not checked, or we we alerted to by the breeder.
We found her KC name on the inter web from an excellent piece of research.

My sisters are both fine at 4 and 3.

There is no doubt breeders should be licenced and that is a failing of the KC.

Good luck!

Cliftonite

8,406 posts

138 months

Saturday 13th May 2017
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Another delight from the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel world. SYRINGOMYELIA:

http://www.thecavalierclub.co.uk/health/syringo/sy...

Take care out there!

frown


Jakarta

566 posts

142 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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We will often leave our Cavalier for the day, however there are still people around the house if we're out but they tend to stay in the staff area, he can go and visit them if he chooses. The house boy walks him a couple of times a day if we're unable to, but back to the point.
If he's even left alone, when we come home he is always and I mean ALWAYS just zonked out sleeping without a care in the world. The most useless guard dog in the world, even if I come home on the Nuda with it popping and farting, and am then noisy coming through the front door I still have to go and give him a tummy rub to wake him up.

I remember a Collie I used to have, she could recognise my 205 Gti with it's noisy exhaust and get excited as soon as I came into the road. But she would just lick an intruder to death.

a

439 posts

84 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Greendubber said:
Boosted LS1 said:
Surely this is one of those breeds that shouldn't be bred. Brain and eye problems spring to mind straight away. A friend had two and they both developed a cough and heart problems.
You could say the same for loads of breeds.
I personally do say the same for loads of breeds. Although CKCS are among the worst because of the horrific nature of their conditions.

Show winner around 100 years ago:


Recent show winner:


Syringomyelia is a condition far more common in CKCS than other breeds where their skull isn't big enough to contain their brain and the base of it is literally forced down into their spine. It's as painful as it sounds and completely preventable - ban the breed from sale until they can be reverted to a normal shaped skull.

Breeding or buying anything that resembles the bottom picture is cruel and shouldn't be allowed.

Greendubber

13,168 posts

203 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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That bottom picture is awful, it looks like a pugalier or some other horrid on trend fad breed.

Ours has a proper nose, unlike that thing.

Chester draws

1,412 posts

110 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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It's also not a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel...

Cliftonite

8,406 posts

138 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Chester draws said:
It's also not a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel...
Correct. It is a King Charles Spaniel.


Chester draws

1,412 posts

110 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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OP, if you're familiar with schitzu's and you're looking at a CKCS, have you considered trying to get a Cava-tzu??

Don't know anything about them myself but often the cross breeds can avoid or lessen the hereditary defects that pure breed dogs can have.

I'd not heard of this cross until I met one at the weekend .