Dog breeder - Puppy returned - SOGA?
Discussion
Gandahar said:
LimaDelta said:
CAPP0 said:
Is it just me who's also troubled by the thread title referring to the Sale of Goods Act?
He's a living being, not a washing machine.
FWIW, animals are covered by the Sale of Goods Act, whether or not you find the terminology distasteful. He's a living being, not a washing machine.
I think this thread does to show that some do not realise the responsibilty and time that has to go into owning a dog and any other animal for that matter, I have recently got a puppy after my staffy passed away after 14 odd years in all those years I had forgotten the puppy years. whilst poppy is a great little character the work that you have to put in to make a nice well behaved and happy dog is actually alot. for me I have the time and patience as I enjoy the companionship of my dog. but alot of people with hetic lives these days are in my opinion are simply unrealsitic about what they can give to their pet and probably more focused on getting likes on facebook or followers on instagram of their new purchase, or simply pressured by their small child because I want one to go with the IPad and her mate chardonnay has one.
So to the OP I would consider not getting a full refund just a little life lesson.
A dog is for life not just for snapchat instagram facebook or whatever you choose to spew your bile across the internet on.
So to the OP I would consider not getting a full refund just a little life lesson.
A dog is for life not just for snapchat instagram facebook or whatever you choose to spew your bile across the internet on.
the thing that makes me the saddest are the people that get a dog but have full time jobs. the dogs are left on there own for 10-12 hours a day, and because the owners are knackered when they get back, the dogs never get the true care they need.
Dogs are intelligent beings, the time and effort you put in generally gets paid back, but it does take a lot of time and effort as a puppy. To see it as a commodity just seems wrong.
cats are better suited to a lot, but don't expect much in return.
Dogs are intelligent beings, the time and effort you put in generally gets paid back, but it does take a lot of time and effort as a puppy. To see it as a commodity just seems wrong.
cats are better suited to a lot, but don't expect much in return.
Loving the PH 'off topic bingo' on this thread, so far we've had: leased audi, derision of social media, not reading the OP, 
As far as time is concerned, I am lucky enough to be able to afford to work only 6 months of the year and my wife is a full time mum/part time farmer so there was no issue there.
As I said earlier, I didn't want to take the risk of having to take my 3yo to A&E with facial lacerations. Happy for it to be a life lesson, and happy never to own another furry little s
t eater. The point of the thread was to highlight the lying puppy farmer in Northallerton.
As far as time is concerned, I am lucky enough to be able to afford to work only 6 months of the year and my wife is a full time mum/part time farmer so there was no issue there.
As I said earlier, I didn't want to take the risk of having to take my 3yo to A&E with facial lacerations. Happy for it to be a life lesson, and happy never to own another furry little s
t eater. The point of the thread was to highlight the lying puppy farmer in Northallerton. LimaDelta said:
LordHaveMurci said:
LimaDelta said:
happy never to own another furry little st eater.
That sums it up really.t eater. I do understand Labs are particularly succeptible to coprophagia.
t. Then again, they were always included, stimulated and exercised.Poor little thing.
LimaDelta said:
LordHaveMurci said:
LimaDelta said:
happy never to own another furry little st eater.
That sums it up really.t eater. I do understand Labs are particularly succeptible to coprophagia.
LordHaveMurci said:
LimaDelta said:
LordHaveMurci said:
LimaDelta said:
happy never to own another furry little st eater.
That sums it up really.t eater. I do understand Labs are particularly succeptible to coprophagia.
CAPP0 said:
Usually, it very much isn't. However, the content, the tone, and the unacknowledged ignorance in the OP caused the reaction. IMO of course.
I don't really understand why though? He hasn't done anything that should raise the ire of animal lovers IMO. It was a simple question about the ethics of the breeder "no refund yet resell" policy.boyse7en said:
I don't really understand why though? He hasn't done anything that should raise the ire of animal lovers IMO. It was a simple question about the ethics of the breeder "no refund yet resell" policy.
Quite. The same posters would no doubt be just as critical had we chosen to keep the pup and something had happened to one of our children. I am happy to admit ignorance when it comes to pet dogs, my experience is with them purely as working animals. It was not an easy decision return him, especially having to explain it to two young children, but life is about making difficult decisions and realising when a mistake has been made. It seems that dog owners are a bit of a precious lot.
LimaDelta said:
boyse7en said:
I don't really understand why though? He hasn't done anything that should raise the ire of animal lovers IMO. It was a simple question about the ethics of the breeder "no refund yet resell" policy.
Quite. The same posters would no doubt be just as critical had we chosen to keep the pup and something had happened to one of our children. I am happy to admit ignorance when it comes to pet dogs, my experience is with them purely as working animals. It was not an easy decision return him, especially having to explain it to two young children, but life is about making difficult decisions and realising when a mistake has been made. It seems that dog owners are a bit of a precious lot.
Charlie Hoskins said:
You have experience of dogs as working animals ? Do tell us more...
Not my own (obviously), but mainly for finding wounded deer (thankfully very rarely used) when stalking. Also have a couple of friends with gun dogs of various flavours.
ETA:
My point is - my experience has been based on trained and (fairly) well behaved adult dogs, not excitable bity puppies.
Edited by LimaDelta on Friday 7th July 15:32
LimaDelta said:
Not my own (obviously), but mainly for finding wounded deer (thankfully very rarely used) when stalking.
Also have a couple of friends with gun dogs of various flavours.
ETA:
My point is - my experience has been based on trained and (fairly) well behaved adult dogs, not excitable bity puppies.
My dog is (now) a well trained gun dog breed, rescued at 11mths old. My previous dog of 14yrs was a well trained working gun dog. Also have a couple of friends with gun dogs of various flavours.
ETA:
My point is - my experience has been based on trained and (fairly) well behaved adult dogs, not excitable bity puppies.
Edited by LimaDelta on Friday 7th July 15:32
Does it make me precious being concerned about animal welfare? Shelters are full of animals because of people that bought one on a whim thinking (or not) that it would be a great idea.
Amazing that with all your experience of working animals that you never once thought a puppy might be hard work.
The Spruce goose said:
I'm not sure dog owners are precious lot, i think the crux was seeing a pet as a commodity, for which quite a few disagreed with your viewpoint.
It's somewhat ironic that there isn't the objection to a dog being owned or bought/and sold yet when suggestions of the SOGA are made or the impression given that it is a commodity people don't like it.egomeister said:
It's somewhat ironic that there isn't the objection to a dog being owned or bought/and sold yet when suggestions of the SOGA are made or the impression given that it is a commodity people don't like it.
seems fair to me to buy and sell dogs/cats, but to return it for a refund does feel stupid. Difference of opinions really.Gassing Station | All Creatures Great & Small | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff