Cautionary tale regarding rescue dogs.

Cautionary tale regarding rescue dogs.

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johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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that could well cover many Dogs that have been taken into the RSPCA or any other Rescue centre,

popeyewhite

19,782 posts

120 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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johnxjsc1985 said:
that could well cover many Dogs that have been taken into the RSPCA or any other Rescue centre,
Indeed.

tbourner

129 posts

71 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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The RSPCA put down about 50,000 dogs a year. Dogs Trust are worse in terms of percentage of those taken in, I believe, although I'm not sure on the numbers.
The charities who claim to "never put a good dog down" are generally those who define "a good dog" as one which will be rehomed within 7 days, sick dogs are generally PTS first, but any bite history or aggression shown in kennels will generally mean a euthanasia as well. It's actually the smaller charities that don't have these policies, and try to save every dog as they have more say in how many dogs they can bring in.

ChocolateFrog

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25,121 posts

173 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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A few complications. Despite strong antibiotics a bit of infection setting in.


bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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ChocolateFrog said:
A few complications. Despite strong antibiotics a bit of infection setting in.

I am not surprised frown. I hope things settle soon. Not an easy area to keep clean. She may need to clip away more hair frown

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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ChocolateFrog said:
A few complications. Despite strong antibiotics a bit of infection setting in.

Ouch!!! that looks painful how is she feeling herself she must still be in shock .

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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tbourner said:
The RSPCA put down about 50,000 dogs a year. Dogs Trust are worse in terms of percentage of those taken in, I believe, although I'm not sure on the numbers.
The charities who claim to "never put a good dog down" are generally those who define "a good dog" as one which will be rehomed within 7 days, sick dogs are generally PTS first, but any bite history or aggression shown in kennels will generally mean a euthanasia as well. It's actually the smaller charities that don't have these policies, and try to save every dog as they have more say in how many dogs they can bring in.
The figure for the RSPCA is for all Animals I believe not just Dogs and the Dogs Trust do not put "healthy" Dogs down not "good Dogs".

tbourner

129 posts

71 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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johnxjsc1985 said:
The figure for the RSPCA is for all Animals I believe not just Dogs and the Dogs Trust do not put "healthy" Dogs down not "good Dogs".
Possibly, it's a lot more than people think anyway. Dogs Trust definitely spin it the same way regardless of the wording. 7 day policy. At least it was 3 years ago when we last dealt with them.

pidsy

7,979 posts

157 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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tbourner said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
The figure for the RSPCA is for all Animals I believe not just Dogs and the Dogs Trust do not put "healthy" Dogs down not "good Dogs".
Possibly, it's a lot more than people think anyway. Dogs Trust definitely spin it the same way regardless of the wording. 7 day policy. At least it was 3 years ago when we last dealt with them.
Dogs trust do not put healthy dogs down.

They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.

I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.

Back OT - your sis needs that sorted OP, keep the support up.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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pidsy said:
Dogs trust do not put healthy dogs down.

They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.

I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.

Back OT - your sis needs that sorted OP, keep the support up.
Can you recommend any other local rescue type centers other than Dogs-Trust then?

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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xjay1337 said:
Can you recommend any other local rescue type centers other than Dogs-Trust then?
We have always had rescue dogs (except one) and got our last couple of dogs from, and highly recommend these.

https://www.nawt.org.uk/rehoming/dogs


ChocolateFrog

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25,121 posts

173 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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johnxjsc1985 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
A few complications. Despite strong antibiotics a bit of infection setting in.

Ouch!!! that looks painful how is she feeling herself she must still be in shock .
A little, although life goes on. She's having my dog this weekend so fingers crossed it's a positive experience.

Lazermilk

3,523 posts

81 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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ChocolateFrog said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
A few complications. Despite strong antibiotics a bit of infection setting in.

Ouch!!! that looks painful how is she feeling herself she must still be in shock .
A little, although life goes on. She's having my dog this weekend so fingers crossed it's a positive experience.
Its nice that she has a dog of the same breed that she can trust to help get over that, hope all goes well.

pidsy

7,979 posts

157 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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xjay1337 said:
pidsy said:
Dogs trust do not put healthy dogs down.

They simply pass any animal that doesn’t fit into their very tight guidelines of “family image dog” to a different local rescue. That way, the advertising is correct (they don’t euthanase healthy dogs) then lumber local centres with the stuff they don’t want.

I unfortunately have fairly intimate knowledge of their business model. Their advertising budget and glossy magazines do a great deal to present the correct image.
It’s a money making organisation at the end of the day and they make a whole lot of money.

Back OT - your sis needs that sorted OP, keep the support up.
Can you recommend any other local rescue type centers other than Dogs-Trust then?
Where’s local?

I’m north west London and have contacts locally to me as well as Surrey and Kent. Breed specific tend be be good but as mentioned in this thread already, the love for the dogs sometimes overrides the nature of the dogs themselves.



popeyewhite

19,782 posts

120 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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Lazermilk said:
ChocolateFrog said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
A few complications. Despite strong antibiotics a bit of infection setting in.

Ouch!!! that looks painful how is she feeling herself she must still be in shock .
A little, although life goes on. She's having my dog this weekend so fingers crossed it's a positive experience.
Its nice that she has a dog of the same breed that she can trust to help get over that, hope all goes well.
It's bordering on naive. What makes you think she will "get over that" ?

It might be a better idea to give her a break from dogs for a while. No one has any way of knowing right now whether a person has developed underlying emotional issues after a dog attack. And if she has you run the risk of exacerbating the trauma by exposing her to the source of the trauma again too soon.

super7

1,931 posts

208 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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If the GSR had of told the OP's sister the dog was prone to biting, would she have taken it on? If the Doodle trust had of told us that our Girl was a pain in the arse on the lead and had loads of allergies, would we have taken her? probably not...... It's not in these dogs trusts interests to tell you all the deatils because they would sealing the dogs death sentence.

Anyway, OP, your Sister was taking a Selfie at the time? If she was, was it with the dog? If so, has the dog seen 'another' dog looking over your sisters shoulder and has he mistaken that for a threat..... It's quite ammusing seeing our 3 have a go at themselves in a mirror's reflection and the stupid idiots fall for it evertyime! Just a thought as to what might have provoked him???

Glad to see your Sister is recovering and she did the right thing and GSR did very much the wrong thing!

Mexican cuties

691 posts

122 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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please tell us that there was some sort of ramification for the german shepherd rehoming that let that dog through. I am sure a small child or elderly person would not have survived the ordeal/attack that your poor other half is coping with. hope that heals soon.

Lazermilk

3,523 posts

81 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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popeyewhite said:
Lazermilk said:
ChocolateFrog said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
A few complications. Despite strong antibiotics a bit of infection setting in.

Ouch!!! that looks painful how is she feeling herself she must still be in shock .
A little, although life goes on. She's having my dog this weekend so fingers crossed it's a positive experience.
Its nice that she has a dog of the same breed that she can trust to help get over that, hope all goes well.
It's bordering on naive. What makes you think she will "get over that" ?

It might be a better idea to give her a break from dogs for a while. No one has any way of knowing right now whether a person has developed underlying emotional issues after a dog attack. And if she has you run the risk of exacerbating the trauma by exposing her to the source of the trauma again too soon.
rolleyes

Is it? What makes you think she wont?

I'm sure she knows and trusts her brothers dog and is wise enough to make her own decisions if it is a good idea or not, I don't expect him to be just dumping the dog at her door without agreeing up front if she is ready...

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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Mexican cuties said:
please tell us that there was some sort of ramification for the german shepherd rehoming that let that dog through. I am sure a small child or elderly person would not have survived the ordeal/attack that your poor other half is coping with. hope that heals soon.
Having rescue Dogs that have bitten previously is one thing having a Dog with that history but not being informed of it is in my opinion Criminal.
We have experience of such Dogs but we went through a very very lengthy process before they came home with us. There is also a huge difference between a defensive nip and a full blown attack.
Just feel so sorry for the poor women not sure if I could be as brave as she has obviously been.

popeyewhite

19,782 posts

120 months

Wednesday 13th June 2018
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Lazermilk said:
rolleyes

Is it? What makes you think she wont?
What are you rolling your eyes at? The fact I recommend caution? You don't think caution might be prudent?

Lazermilk said:
I'm sure etc etc.
You're can't be sure of anything, you've never met the girl.