New french bulldog puppy.

[HTP99]

Batleyred said:

What is a worry is the frenchie bandwagon everyone jumped on, i see so many adults for sale i would say a rescue would be a good option. Next breed to be hit is Pomaranians (sp) and mini daschunds.

My daughters friend has a Frenchie which is about 9m old, had him from a puppy, he is an absolute bloody nightmare, however he is not walked or stimulated he is alone all day at home whilst they are at work with only the mother coming in once to let him out for a wee, it is very sad.

My daughter persuaded them a few months ago to go out for a walk with her and her Pug, the girl said that this was the first time that they had taken him out for a proper walk; he loved it and when back home he was out for the count.

Anyway about 2 weeks ago she said that she wanted to re-home him as he was too hard work, my daughter offered to take him (he would have a lovely life with her), however she said she didn't want him to go to anyone that she knew; she had a change of heart and said that he had until Christmas "to prove himself" FFS!!

it is so sad and angers me that people take on any dog, particularly trendy ones, and have zero idea of what owning a dog actually entails.

The girl whom we re-homed Daisy from gave us some spiel about why she could no longer have her; housing issue was the reason, I didn't believe her as Daisy can be hard work, plus she is deaf and the girl was the type that gave the impression she wanted a handbag dog, she was all make up, pink, fancy hair and botox.

Edited by HTP99 on Friday 31st August 16:47

[hondafanatic]

Batleyred said:

I have owned french bulldogs for a number of years and the amount of scare mongering is insane and not justified IMO. There are problems but just like most breeds. Touch wood i have not even had a vet bill for any of them and countless other owners i know as well.

What is a worry is the frenchie bandwagon everyone jumped on, i see so many adults for sale i would say a rescue would be a good option. Next breed to be hit is Pomaranians (sp) and mini daschunds.

Funny you say that because one breeder I know has stopped with the Frenchies and now doing mini daschunds.

[Glasgowrob]

This is my Pair of lunatics



we have Coco


and Dochas


frenchy ownership has its ups,



and downs





Dochas is a special case, she was born with a cleft palate and spinal problems, no vets gave her any chance of survival




shes a stubborn little bugger though







you'll also find yourself stealing other peoples frenchies (this little stunner belongs to a very good friend of mine and one of the top breeders in Scotland

[Glasgowrob]

and ones never enough

[m3jappa]

Well this thread hasn't filled me with confidence im really not sure what to do.

I would love and have wanted for many years a mini dashund, way before they became the latest fashion accessory. I just dont think i could get one though, can't let them jump up, can't let them jump off stuff, basically it seems back problems are a given and by all accounts they aren't generally the nicest of breeds.

I'd love another staff, I've had 3, obviously the last one didn't go well but to be fair he was definitely crossed with something. I just have some concern that while we have a nearly 3 yr old now we will have another, staffs are very very bouncy to say the least and probably not ideal with new borns. Im really not sure what to do

A lot of the breeds which are recommended for people with kids are actually large breeds, this is a shame as without sounding mean or nasty i really dont want some massive great dog jumping all over me when i get home, bounding over the sofas and doing human sized poo all over the garden

Had the last dog not turned devil dog i wouldn't be so worried, im the first to say owner not breed however this dog was treated like a baby (maybe part of the problem) he was never shown aggression, he just wanted to protect our daughter and he became a liability, there was more chance of me winning the lottery than him hurting her, i do believe though he would have hurt a child had they knocked on the door and he got to them first, hence the tough decision we had to make

[camshafted]

hondafanatic said:

Funny you say that because one breeder I know has stopped with the Frenchies and now doing mini daschunds.

This is part of the problem. Breeding for profit rather than passion. There are many breeders who are responsible, but chopping and changing the animal because they're more in demand/fashionable is sad to see.

[bexVN]

Someone I know had a male FB. They bought a 2yr old female from someone, when I was chatting about the fun of now having two dogs (as we have two dogs) she made it clear she had bought her to breed with her male dog. Sure enough they bred, 2 pups died. She didn't do a caesarian so Mum was absolutely exhausted after many hrs labour (I suspect a caeser would have increased the chances of the pups that died)

Anyway she attempted to sell these non kc dogs for almost 2k each.

I don't know how much she got in the end but shortly after she got rid of the dogs.

I don't really talk to her anymore, I hated what she did.

[hondafanatic]

camshafted said:

hondafanatic said:

Funny you say that because one breeder I know has stopped with the Frenchies and now doing mini daschunds.

This is part of the problem. Breeding for profit rather than passion. There are many breeders who are responsible, but chopping and changing the animal because they're more in demand/fashionable is sad to see.

Can I just be really clear that my example above is not the breeder I got mine from.

[camshafted]

bexVN said:

Someone I know had a male FB. They bought a 2yr old female from someone, when I was chatting about the fun of now having two dogs (as we have two dogs) she made it clear she had bought her to breed with her male dog. Sure enough they bred, 2 pups died. She didn't do a caesarian so Mum was absolutely exhausted after many hrs labour (I suspect a caeser would have increased the chances of the pups that died)

Anyway she attempted to sell these non kc dogs for almost 2k each.

I don't know how much she got in the end but shortly after she got rid of the dogs.

I don't really talk to her anymore, I hated what she did.

I have two Shar Pei and follow a number of breed-specific FB groups and rescues. Many breed these for a quick return, and many have health issues. You're then left with sad families when their poorly pup dies or charities taking on dogs needing thousands of pounds of get treatment.

Group members are always sharing posts of people giving b*tches away once they've got a few litters out of them. It's disgraceful. And we all know where "free dogs" on FB and Gumtree etc end up unless the right people can get there in time.

Sorry for the rant but the way some people see dogs as commodities rather than members of the family (or working dogs) really does my head in!

[bernhund]

Contact Mandy at Bullyview. A top breeder of EBT and FBD. She's probably one of the best breeders you can find in Essex who knows her breeds inside out. Get the information you require from the horses mouth.
We just picked up 'Hamilton' today. He's Wilson's new buddy to be!

[joefraser]

Im a month into frenchie ownership, and he pretty much just sleeps and farts- great little dog.

He is super sociable and has been really compliant with training so far, much easier than the staffies and british bulldogs ive had in the past.

[john-mxn6w]

I really don’t get where people get the idea they are aggressive.

We have a frenchie and two ebts and the worst thing any of them do is hideous farts

[RobXjcoupe]

john-mxn6w said:

I really don’t get where people get the idea they are aggressive.

We have a frenchie and two ebts and the worst thing any of them do is hideous farts

You can lessen the gaseous explosions from their bottoms if you use a food that contains no chicken or grain

[mcg_]

What about a pug? Soft a st and great with kids. Also lazy so easy to look after.

Downside, as with french bull dogs, they often have lots of health problems. Ours has had quite a bit wrong with him the poor sod, often self inflicted though to be fair. Pet plan is good insurance, although we're currently paying over 40 a month for a 3 year old dog.



edit - stupid bloody photos, it's the right way up on the computer.

[john-mxn6w]

RobXjcoupe said:

john-mxn6w said:

I really don’t get where people get the idea they are aggressive.

We have a frenchie and two ebts and the worst thing any of them do is hideous farts

You can lessen the gaseous explosions from their bottoms if you use a food that contains no chicken or grain

Then I wouldn’t be able to blame my farts on the dog 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Boosted LS1]

I've seen 2 in recent years that can't hold their heads straight. Heads lope to one side. No idea if they got better.

[m3jappa]

Well after much mind changing i think we will be getting a frenchie.

I have struggled to find one which is a standard colour which has parents which have been health tested though tbh.

I have now found a girl puppy, the parents are silver and gold tested. Both scored 1 on the boas grading. Now that sounds good but after a quick google its clear that 0 is best. Would it be a bad idea if the score is 1?

So so many of these are for sale with the main selling point being colour and likely colours they will produce...... very sad really

I would just like a family pet which has a low chance of developing regular vet visits.

[bexVN]

I am so so confused by your post tbh. You feel sorry for all these pups being bred but you will be adding to that problem by buying one.

You want a dog that you hope will be lo vet risk yet even with all the cautionary advice you still want to go for a Frenchie.

You want boas that is as risk free as poss (still not 100% guarantee though) which is 0 but still prepared to go for a scored one.

At least you are researching and that is a good thing because as you have found there is a phenomonal amount of backyard breeders.

Good luck with everything I obviously hope you get a healthy pup that needs few vet visits, we all want that but for some breeds that seems to not happen but yeah, I am really confused!

[m3jappa]

bexVN said:

I am so so confused by your post tbh. You feel sorry for all these pups being bred but you will be adding to that problem by buying one.

You want a dog that you hope will be lo vet risk yet even with all the cautionary advice you still want to go for a Frenchie.

You want boas that is as risk free as poss (still not 100% guarantee though) which is 0 but still prepared to go for a scored one.

At least you are researching and that is a good thing because as you have found there is a phenomonal amount of backyard breeders.

Good luck with everything I obviously hope you get a healthy pup that needs few vet visits, we all want that but for some breeds that seems to not happen but yeah, I am really confused!

Im not sure why your so confused, id like a dog which is healthy, I'm aware of the problems dogs like these can have and id like to avoid that, i didn't say i was prepared to buy her i was asking if a score of 1 is a bad idea as i don't know how relevant it actually is (since making the post i have read that even if both parents are 0 the dog can still have issues).

Are you insinuating i shouldn't be buying a puppy? Maybe i should rescue? Maybe i should i dont know. A visit to the dogs trust quickly shut me down last time i went in as i told them we were planning a child, we now have a 3yr old and are planning another in the future so i know they won't let us have one. Or should i adopt one from a local place which 'rescues' anything including large amounts of dogs from other countries. Above all id like to to my best to make sure my daughter doesn't get her face ripped off by a dog with serious mental issues! Like it or not a puppy is probably the safest bet. btw we have rescued 2 staffs in the past, both of which had great lives with us, before children though.

What breed should we get? A french bulldog fits our criteria (which tbh must be fairly standard seeing as they are now one of if not the most popular dogs). id like another staff but show me one in a standard colour which hasn't been bred by some bad man somewhere.

[tonyb1968]

Im with Bex here, its like you are trying to talk yourself into owning a frenchie no matter what the health issues or costs of owning one is.

You may be better just looking at a much healthier breed and have years of companionship with a healthy dog than having to think of the issues you would have with a frenchie.

You also have to understand that most owners will say that their breed of dog is the best thing since sliced bread (I love my 2 miniature Schnauzers and would recommend them to the right people), but they don't suit everyone.
To me an French Bulldog is a designer accessory, that is the sad thing about them, it means bad breeding to make quick money and the only people who will suffer are the owners (and the dog in the long run).

I would re assess what you want from a dog and open up a much wider variety of breeds that would suit you and your family better.