Jo Swinson

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anonymous-user

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53 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Turning on BBC news (because it’s the best). I saw a young woman with nice yellow earrings and matching yellow microphone talking about (the dangers of a hard) brexit. I assumed it was BBC children’s news hour or a cbeebies hard brexit special for kids.

I discovered that this passionate youngster is Jo Swinson the leader of the Liberal Democrats, after her mighty defeat of political heavyweight favorite Ed Davey .

She’s there, making her first major speech, welcoming defecting MPs and telling Corbyn how it is, speaking passionately about stopping brexit and preserving democracy. She’s got a plan for the climate emergency for stopping terrorists and stopping brexit. She wants us, and hopefully more defectors by her side.

Is she a future PM or is another party killing coalition compromise in store or will she just be quietly replaced by another libdem nobody has heard of?




Agammemnon

1,628 posts

57 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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El stovey said:
speaking passionately about stopping brexit and preserving democracy.
If she can do both at once the she's Wonder Woman AICMTP

Jasandjules

69,825 posts

228 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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We had a democratic vote. Leave won. Anything else is undemocratic.

Plus anyone who goes for the "climate emergency" rubbish is not intelligent enough to run the country IMHO>

Otis Criblecoblis

1,078 posts

65 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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'Preserving democracy' by voting to hold a referendum in which you will only accept one outcome, demanding a re-run until that 'democratic' result is achieved.
She appeals to the very worst anti Brexit dolts who have zero interest in democracy.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

53 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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She’s on sky news now answering questions from the media.

She’s all for cross party talks to form some kind of democratic new form of government we won’t vote for, as long as Boris and Corbyn aren’t involved.

She seems to be deliberately adopting a school debating club style to appeal to youngsters.

DocJock

8,341 posts

239 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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"Preserving democracy"? From the woman who stated that she'd respect the result of a second referendum only if it was i favour of remaining.

ETA: beaten to the punch by Otis...

Baby Shark doo doo doo doo

15,077 posts

168 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Otis Criblecoblis said:
'Preserving democracy' by voting to hold a referendum in which you will only accept one outcome, demanding a re-run until that 'democratic' result is achieved.
She appeals to the very worst anti Brexit dolts who have zero interest in democracy.
yes

I wouldn’t call Kim Jong Swinson democratic

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

53 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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At the moment she possibly lacks the gravitas of Ming Campbell or uncle Vice or that bloke who liked a drink or the one who said the bad stuff about the gays.


valiant

10,072 posts

159 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Libdems are certainly selling themselves as the only truly remain party and a party of the centre ground. When you compare to Labour who seem to the masters of mixed messages and ‘will we, won’t we’ remain plus it’s lurch to the further left and the Tories consumed with what sort of Brexit they want it’s easy to see why they are gaining popularity. I feel people have moved on from the Student loan betrayal and can see that Brexit is a bigger issue and willing to put past mistakes behind them.

I read predictions of over 40 seats should there be a GE in the near future and whilst that will not normally give them any power, we are not in normal times. They could possibly turn out to be Kingmakers. I don’t think Swinson will work with Corbyn&Co though. She will demand a second ref as a precondition of a coalition and Corbyn doesn’t want that. Get rid of Corbyn and his acolytes and put a moderate like Starmer in and, in my opinion, they’d be a shoo-in.

Swinson seems to have brought a bit of energy to the party and it’s a case, for her, to keep the momentum going in order to stay relevant. We saw good initial momentum with the IDG when they launched and where are they now? Swinson wants to avoid that and move on from being the third party for those who like wearing sandals with socks.

Gargamel

14,958 posts

260 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Jasandjules said:
We had a democratic vote. Leave won. Anything else is undemocratic.

Plus anyone who goes for the "climate emergency" rubbish is not intelligent enough to run the country IMHO>
So plastic falling from the sky doesn’t convince you that we may need a change ?

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49295...

There can no longer be any real doubt, the world IS getting warmer and we should all take sensible steps to reduce our impact on it.

Jo Swindon is a good advocate of bringing a change, she will have virtually no impact presently, but I wonder if the Lib Dems might scoop 30 - 50 seats at the next election on the basis that they don’t look quite a angry and frothy as the other two.

Scabutz

7,482 posts

79 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Agammemnon said:
If she can do both at once the she's Wonder Woman AICMTP
Ten Pounds? It only used to be five. Guess that's inflation for you

eharding

13,602 posts

283 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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El stovey said:
She’s on sky news now answering questions from the media.

She’s all for cross party talks to form some kind of democratic new form of government we won’t vote for, as long as Boris and Corbyn aren’t involved.

She seems to be deliberately adopting a school debating club style to appeal to youngsters.
Isn't the plan to lower voting age in the EU Referendum Confirmation Vote (No Deal vs Remain) to 16? Makes sense to get the youth vote on side.

What's that popping sound?

Baby Shark doo doo doo doo

15,077 posts

168 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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valiant said:
Swinson seems to have brought a bit of energy to the party and it’s a case, for her, to keep the momentum going in order to stay relevant. We saw good initial momentum with the IDG when they launched and where are they now? Swinson wants to avoid that and move on from being the third party for those who like wearing sandals with socks.
She’s pro-EU and hasn’t done anything to alienate voters yet. Someone the BBC can get behind and promote without too much criticism.

Who knows, she might be the first politician to avoid completely alienating herself by offending a huge section of society (apart from those who voted to Leave, but they don’t matter).

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

236 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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valiant said:
……. She will demand a second ref as a precondition of a coalition and Corbyn doesn’t want that. …...
I thought Corbyn has said he will support a second referendum as part of his Caretaker Government, unless he's changed his mind, or that was last week and he's mow saying he doesn't support it, or he will support anybody who gives him the keys to No. 10 regardless.... scratchchin

Mark Benson

7,498 posts

268 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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El stovey said:
At the moment she possibly lacks the gravitas of Ming Campbell or uncle Vice or that bloke who liked a drink or the one who said the bad stuff about the gays.
She lacks the gravitas of Timmy Mallett.

Any gains the Lib Dems make under her leadership are entirely as a home from home for Blairites while Steptoe leads Labour and nutjob #FBPE types who want to stop Brexit.

Mark Benson

7,498 posts

268 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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The Surveyor said:
valiant said:
……. She will demand a second ref as a precondition of a coalition and Corbyn doesn’t want that. …...
I thought Corbyn has said he will support a second referendum as part of his Caretaker Government, unless he's changed his mind, or that was last week and he's mow saying he doesn't support it, or he will support anybody who gives him the keys to No. 10 regardless.... scratchchin
No, this week he says he'll call a general election once he's secured the extension from the EU.

Course he will.

stew-STR160

8,006 posts

237 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Gargamel said:
So plastic falling from the sky doesn’t convince you that we may need a change ?

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49295...

There can no longer be any real doubt, the world IS getting warmer and we should all take sensible steps to reduce our impact on it.

Jo Swindon is a good advocate of bringing a change, she will have virtually no impact presently, but I wonder if the Lib Dems might scoop 30 - 50 seats at the next election on the basis that they don’t look quite a angry and frothy as the other two.
You have two barely related subjects spliced together there. The plastic issue is a real problem. What has it got to do with "the world IS getting warmer"?

Jo Swinson is a muppet. As others have said, she doesn't care about democracy if it goes against what she wants.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

53 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Mark Benson said:
El stovey said:
At the moment she possibly lacks the gravitas of Ming Campbell or uncle Vice or that bloke who liked a drink or the one who said the bad stuff about the gays.
She lacks the gravitas of Timmy Mallett.

Any gains the Lib Dems make under her leadership are entirely as a home from home for Blairites while Steptoe leads Labour and nutjob #FBPE types who want to stop Brexit.
That’s a big political group though. Centrists had Blair and Cameron and May. It’s difficult to know where Boris stands at the moment but the Lib Dems are the only party aiming at the middle ground. Obviously the stop brexit stance might put off the centrists who wanted to leave, depending on how much importance voters place on brexit when they vote in a GE.

worsy

5,777 posts

174 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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As previous posters have said, she wants a referendum but will only accept remain as a result. I'm not sure why she doesn't stand on a platform for simply revoking Article 50 as that is in effect what she wants to do. I'd certainly have more respect for her.


Ridgemont

6,488 posts

130 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Jo Swinson: 39 years old.
I997 joined the Lib Dems
2000 Graduated from LSE with a 1st in BSc Management (I didn’t even realise that counted as a science...)
2000 gets a job as a Marketing and PR manager for Viking FM in Hull
2001 stood as LD Candidate for Hull in UK GE - lost
2003 stood as LD Candidate for Strathkelvin in Scottish parliament election - lost
2005 stood as LD Candidate for Dunbarton in UK GE - won
2010 held Dunbarton in UK GE
2010 becomes PPS to V Cable (voting in process to raise tuition fees)
2012 becomes PPS to N Clegg
2012 apptd under Secretary of State (employment relations)
2013 Maternity leave
2015 lost seat
2015 set up her own workplace diversity consultancy
2017 regains seat
2018 Made a CBE for ‘public service’

A non existent career outside of parliament.
A greasy ladder well climbed inside of but of little distinction.

If this is the inspiring captain who will pilot the ship of state through the many great and challenging questions of our time then I’m getting on the life raft now.