Rescue Dog Dilemma

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dave_s13

13,813 posts

268 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Doofus said:
Thank you smile
Oh and she's perfectly friendly with my mum in laws 3 cats. She stays round there when we're at work and on holidays.

Looks like an ice dog anyway. A but like with kids, don't take any st off them and make sure they know who's boss!!

Boosted LS1

21,165 posts

259 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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I can't speak in an expert capacity but I'd take the dog out for some very long walks so he can use up his energy. He needs to be tired to be calm at the moment.

Chainsaw Rebuild

1,997 posts

101 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Two ideas; doggy day care and don’t keep him out the room you are in.

The wildly full of beans spaniel that we have benefited a lot from going to a good doggy day care place. It made her more sociable and she comes back so tired she is much calmer that evening and the next day. Make sure it’s a good place with lots of room. The one we use has three fields, some trees, agility equipment and a swimming pond.

I think keeping the dog out of any room you are in will probably wind him up. Ours dogs have always been allowed on the sofa and the bed. (Being spaniels they get muddy and therefore washed a a lot).

SimpleSimonSays

77 posts

98 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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There’s a group on Facebook called “ACE Connections” (Animal Centred Education). They do a lot of behavioural “stuff” which starts with something called “freework”, which is about getting your dog to focus, self-calm etc.

It’s made a big different to our dog, she’s still a handful at times but much better in the garden when other stuff is going on around her. Worth a look, I think.

gareth_r

5,712 posts

236 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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moorx said:
...He does have a look of Patterdale or Patterdale cross (they do vary a lot in looks and size)....
"Patterdale" is about as meaningful as "Jack Russell". smile

moorx

3,480 posts

113 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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gareth_r said:
moorx said:
...He does have a look of Patterdale or Patterdale cross (they do vary a lot in looks and size)....
"Patterdale" is about as meaningful as "Jack Russell". smile
My brother has had two - one was chocolate brown, rough coated and quite chunky.

His second is black and tan, smooth coated and absolutely tiny.

Doofus

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25,732 posts

172 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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gareth_r said:
"Patterdale" is about as meaningful as "Jack Russell". smile
They actually have a lot of terrier characteristics, both physical and behavioural

gareth_r

5,712 posts

236 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Doofus said:
gareth_r said:
"Patterdale" is about as meaningful as "Jack Russell". smile
They actually have a lot of terrier characteristics, both physical and behavioural
I meant that just as every small mostly white terrier is a Jack Russell, so every small, solid dark-coloured terrier is a Patterdale. smile

"Patterdale" seems to cover everything from a rough-coated dog that looks like a black Lakeland to a smooth-coated dog that looks like a skinny miniature Staff.

Edited by gareth_r on Friday 16th August 21:33

Doofus

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25,732 posts

172 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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gareth_r said:
I meant that just as every small mostly white terrier is a Jack Russell, so every small, solid dark-coloured terrier is a Patterdale. smile
He's not solid dark smile He has white toes, and a white neck and chest. Plus four white hairs on the very tip of his tail smile

FredClogs

14,041 posts

160 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Jasandjules said:
How much exercise is he getting?
This, get some boots on and head for the hills, 8 or 9 hours should wear him out. They're dogs, they're better than cats and they're bred to work.

P. S look where Patterdale is on the map...

Frrair

1,365 posts

133 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Our two doggos from DT Kenilworth, apparently both from Ireland.

Bob the older one really chilled, Lucy the black and white collie cross calm but excitable, both live for walkies and I am sure both would be a PITA if they didn’t get enough exercise.

They have never been walkies in the dark (well maybe a dozen times) so always settle when I goes dark outside.

As someone above exercise and routine are key for a rescue.

Your dog looks really great and better an energetic one than a sofa cover.

Good luck.

Red 5

1,021 posts

179 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Doofus, what a lovey looking chap you have there smile

However, as is most often the case, I fear it is the humans that are the problem, not the dog!

First of all, 4 days is nothing at all. His behaviour is not that indicative of his personality at this stage.
He’s running riot, as he knows he can and you’re getting stressed. Not any sort of relationship there yet.

I think you (ALL) need to start a regimented training programme immediately. Which that training will come the two way respect you all deserve.
30mins per day and longer at weekends I’d start with. He’s currently a square peg!
Both humans too, or you’ll be teaching him to treat you both differently.

With respect, you don’t sound much like a pack leader at the moment (to your new doggie)
You’ve described your dog on the sofa and on your bed!!
He is not your equal and should net be reacted as such. These are your people spaces and one day, perhaps you might share them, but only by invitation on rare occasions.
He’s not a cat!

Don’t worry about the toy thing for now. With the respect will come a desire to please you.
If his behaviour is not then to your liking, you can let him know in a few words and he’ll be upset and stop.

This will help EVERY aspect of your interactions.

(Two long walks a day too)

Think school....
At the moment, you’re the supply teacher, who nobody cares if they upset.
However I remember the teachers I respected most, only had to look up in my general direction and we’d suddenly be good as gold!

The extra time spent now, will mean more time together in harmony.

You owe it to him, and to yourselves smile


Doofus

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25,732 posts

172 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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FredClogs said:
Jasandjules said:
How much exercise is he getting?
This, get some boots on and head for the hills, 8 or 9 hours should wear him out. They're dogs, they're better than cats and they're bred to work.

P. S look where Patterdale is on the map...
Look at what I said earlier. We have specifically been told not to take him out.

HTP99

22,441 posts

139 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Doofus said:
Look at what I said earlier. We have specifically been told not to take him out.
That, I think, is the main problem he needs to get out for decent walks especially being a Terrier; I have 2 so I know!

Turn7

23,498 posts

220 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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^^^^^^This

Is a lot of sense.....poor little bugger is just out of "prison" from his point of view....

Id certainly be going for looong walks and not get to worried about spoiling with new toys for a while.

It could take a couple of weeks fro you all to settle down into a comfortable routine, so dont hit the panic button yet.

These things take time.....

moorx

3,480 posts

113 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Doofus said:
FredClogs said:
Jasandjules said:
How much exercise is he getting?
This, get some boots on and head for the hills, 8 or 9 hours should wear him out. They're dogs, they're better than cats and they're bred to work.

P. S look where Patterdale is on the map...
Look at what I said earlier. We have specifically been told not to take him out.
I must admit, I read that and couldn't really understand it. Did they explain why? I've adopted more than a dozen rescue dogs, and have never been given that advice. I've been told not to let them off the lead for several weeks, but never not to take them out.

Please don't take this as criticism, if that's what you've been told, I'm just trying to understand why they might have said this.

Red 5

1,021 posts

179 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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moorx said:
Doofus said:
FredClogs said:
Jasandjules said:
How much exercise is he getting?
This, get some boots on and head for the hills, 8 or 9 hours should wear him out. They're dogs, they're better than cats and they're bred to work.

P. S look where Patterdale is on the map...
Look at what I said earlier. We have specifically been told not to take him out.
I must admit, I read that and couldn't really understand it. Did they explain why? I've adopted more than a dozen rescue dogs, and have never been given that advice. I've been told not to let them off the lead for several weeks, but never not to take them out.

Please don't take this as criticism, if that's what you've been told, I'm just trying to understand why they might have said this.
It’s a blanket recommendation, as all sorts of dogs go to all sorts of new homes / owners.
Some dogs won’t even stop hiding from their new owners for days on end and trying to escape at any opportunity.
Some are at home with fierce new bonds, within 48hrs.

The instruction can’t take any of these differences into account.

It’s an instruction that cuts down on calls saying ‘We’ve lost the dog, it ran away’ etc

PositronicRay

26,952 posts

182 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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Red 5 said:
moorx said:
Doofus said:
FredClogs said:
Jasandjules said:
How much exercise is he getting?
This, get some boots on and head for the hills, 8 or 9 hours should wear him out. They're dogs, they're better than cats and they're bred to work.

P. S look where Patterdale is on the map...
Look at what I said earlier. We have specifically been told not to take him out.
I must admit, I read that and couldn't really understand it. Did they explain why? I've adopted more than a dozen rescue dogs, and have never been given that advice. I've been told not to let them off the lead for several weeks, but never not to take them out.

Please don't take this as criticism, if that's what you've been told, I'm just trying to understand why they might have said this.
It’s a blanket recommendation, as all sorts of dogs go to all sorts of new homes / owners.
Some dogs won’t even stop hiding from their new owners for days on end and trying to escape at any opportunity.
Some are at home with fierce new bonds, within 48hrs.

The instruction can’t take any of these differences into account.

It’s an instruction that cuts down on calls saying ‘We’ve lost the dog, it ran away’ etc
DT told us not to take dog out on first day home, let him settle in.

Doofus

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25,732 posts

172 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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PositronicRay said:
DT told us not to take dog out on first day home, let him settle in.
We were told a week, not just the first day.

HTP99

22,441 posts

139 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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Doofus said:
PositronicRay said:
DT told us not to take dog out on first day home, let him settle in.
We were told a week, not just the first day.
Told a week but use a bit of common sense and flexibility depending on how the dog settles in, take him out today for a nice long walk, that will be his problem; he's bored and has loads of stored up energy.

Edited by HTP99 on Saturday 17th August 10:06