Where did all the mongrels go?

[Disastrous]

alorotom said:

chow pan toon said:

Roofless Toothless said:

If they got ill, a trip down the PDSA did the trick,

When our childhood cat was very ill the PDSA were the only vets open out of hours and they refused to treat her even though my parents were happy to pay. So fk the PDSA frankly.

If I had a dog I'd rather have a mongrel anyway. All the breeds seem to have a load of problems (probably unsurprisingly)

but, with a mongrel you have no idea what the temprement will be like

Just train it properly.

[The Li-ion King]

ColinM50 said:

Prompted by another thread, I recall that when I were a lad in North London in the early 60's every street had a roving pack of mongrels, or Heinz 57 dogs as we called them. But you never see them now. Everyone seems to have pedigree breeds or odd crosses like Cavapoo's and labradoodles, but not proper mongrels. And you never see a dog wandering the streets. So where have they gone? Just died out or been put down or turned into Chinese meals or what?

Crosslinked from Katie Price thread?

I had Dog in Black Bean Sauce (67) today as a £5 Lunch Deal at my local takeaway

Either strays or more common breeds are more likely reported and either collected and re-homed by RSPCA and others,or as you say, the burgeoning population of Labradoodles, Chihuahua's etc have made us not notice them. There's plenty of dog eggs on the floor so I doubt it's someone posh's dog who would have had doings scooped into an old Waitrose bag and thrown away, so it must be the more common status dogs the mandem in the gangs have ( Pitbull / Staff's etc)

[Evanivitch]

Spare tyre said:

I guess neutering became free or cheap and the pedigrees are big money

My old never work a day in their lives social housing neighbours knocked out a couple litters of boxer dogs a year. Not sure how much you’d make from say 12 boxer puppies but I know it payed for their USA holidays etc, whilst they got their housing for free, naturally

Apparently HMRC have started cracking down on this sort of undeclared-business breeding. Because it is a business when people are looking for studs and making thousands.

[Challo]

ColinM50 said:

Prompted by another thread, I recall that when I were a lad in North London in the early 60's every street had a roving pack of mongrels, or Heinz 57 dogs as we called them. But you never see them now. Everyone seems to have pedigree breeds or odd crosses like Cavapoo's and labradoodles, but not proper mongrels. And you never see a dog wandering the streets. So where have they gone? Just died out or been put down or turned into Chinese meals or what?

Plenty of rescue centres with dogs of mixed breeds. I think with it being cheap to neuter dogs you don’t get the accidentally pregnancies like you used to, and also you don’t have dogs wandering the streets.

[LordHaveMurci]

Evanivitch said:

Apparently HMRC have started cracking down on this sort of undeclared-business breeding. Because it is a business when people are looking for studs and making thousands.

I believe you have to be licensed to breed now & when the LA issue a license they inform HMRC.
I’m sure somebody will let me know if I’m wrong.

[Jasandjules]

Plenty of "mongrel" types in Eastern Europe with lots of lovely people rescuing them and bringing them to the UK. If you want one let me know, I know a lady who runs a rescue out there where the dogs are chased, beaten, have cars try to run them down etc.. yet they tend to be so sweet natured.

[PAULJ5555]

LordHaveMurci said:

Evanivitch said:

Apparently HMRC have started cracking down on this sort of undeclared-business breeding. Because it is a business when people are looking for studs and making thousands.

I believe you have to be licensed to breed now & when the LA issue a license they inform HMRC.
I’m sure somebody will let me know if I’m wrong.

There are loads of people doing this without a licence on a smaller scale.
How can they control this when people have one/two litters a year and make £5,000 -£10,000 a year. They will just say opps dog got humped over the park.

[Evanivitch]

PAULJ5555 said:

LordHaveMurci said:

Evanivitch said:

Apparently HMRC have started cracking down on this sort of undeclared-business breeding. Because it is a business when people are looking for studs and making thousands.

I believe you have to be licensed to breed now & when the LA issue a license they inform HMRC.
I’m sure somebody will let me know if I’m wrong.

There are loads of people doing this without a licence on a smaller scale.
How can they control this when people have one/two litters a year and make £5,000 -£10,000 a year. They will just say opps dog got humped over the park.

Maybe it did get humped in the park, but only after you'd identified and paid for a suitable stud!

It's not difficult to look through for-sale adverts and see litters for sale at £1,000 each and start asking questions.

[PAULJ5555]

Evanivitch said:

PAULJ5555 said:

LordHaveMurci said:

Evanivitch said:

Apparently HMRC have started cracking down on this sort of undeclared-business breeding. Because it is a business when people are looking for studs and making thousands.

I believe you have to be licensed to breed now & when the LA issue a license they inform HMRC.
I’m sure somebody will let me know if I’m wrong.

There are loads of people doing this without a licence on a smaller scale.
How can they control this when people have one/two litters a year and make £5,000 -£10,000 a year. They will just say opps dog got humped over the park.

Maybe it did get humped in the park, but only after you'd identified and paid for a suitable stud!

It's not difficult to look through for-sale adverts and see litters for sale at £1,000 each and start asking questions.

I doubt it, they dont even bother looking at VAT fraud of £100,000 that I know has been reported to them, more than once.

They may do one or two of these puppy cases just to get it reported in the papers.

[Lord Flashheart]

We're all accountable these days. I knew a fella 25-30 years ago who used to just open the front door and off Charlie would go on his own walk. He was a Basil Brush like mutt, who knew exactly where he was going and how to get home. I'd see him sniffing posts and stting up trees all over the place, sometimes 3 or more miles from home. When I say 'stting up trees', he didn't climb them; just positioned his ring against the trunk and slid down it!

[foxbody-87]

There's no such thing as a pure bred anything and no amount of silly KC names and rosettes will alter that...

[Ructions]

ApOrbital said:

I have a labradoodle it's not right in the HEAD.

Dogs tend to adopt the same personality traits as their owners.

[Driver101]

I used to always remember that pups were free to good homes.

Just about any pup is now worth good money. Give it a fancy name and the price reflects this.

[nickwilcock]

Many years ago, a colleague had a beautiful pure-bred Labrador puppy. Unfortunately it died during a routine trip to the vet's for some reason. "Very sorry, sir", said the vet, "but I know of a recent litter and will buy one for you".

Which he did. Fast forward a few months and suspicions about said replacement Lab's pedigree began to arise when its tail became rather bushy. That wasn't too bad, but then it grew a beard. His wife tried to shave it off, but that left a chin like a wire brush which wasn't a lot of fun when he rubbed it against her knees. But 'Boot', as he became known, grew into a happy, very clever mutt of unknown origins and lived on until a ripe old age.

My local neighbourhood centre has a Tesco Express, next to it on one side is a vet's and on the other...a Chinese takeaway. I have visions of the vet announcing "I'm sorry, madam, but Fido didn't survive his operation, but we'll take care of him sympathetically". Then, after the grieving ex-owner has left, a phone call is made "Mr Wong? I have something for you - round the back in a couple of minutes".

Actually it's a very good Chinese takeaway with top notch food hygiene credentials!

[ApOrbital]

Ructions said:

ApOrbital said:

I have a labradoodle it's not right in the HEAD.

Dogs tend to adopt the same personality traits as their owners.

[Marniet]

nickwilcock said:

Many years ago, a colleague had a beautiful pure-bred Labrador puppy. Unfortunately it died during a routine trip to the vet's for some reason. "Very sorry, sir", said the vet, "but I know of a recent litter and will buy one for you".

Which he did. Fast forward a few months and suspicions about said replacement Lab's pedigree began to arise when its tail became rather bushy. That wasn't too bad, but then it grew a beard. His wife tried to shave it off, but that left a chin like a wire brush which wasn't a lot of fun when he rubbed it against her knees. But 'Boot', as he became known, grew into a happy, very clever mutt of unknown origins and lived on until a ripe old age.

My local neighbourhood centre has a Tesco Express, next to it on one side is a vet's and on the other...a Chinese takeaway. I have visions of the vet announcing "I'm sorry, madam, but Fido didn't survive his operation, but we'll take care of him sympathetically". Then, after the grieving ex-owner has left, a phone call is made "Mr Wong? I have something for you - round the back in a couple of minutes".

Actually it's a very good Chinese takeaway with top notch food hygiene credentials!

This made me laugh lots