Vet price check

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Boosted LS1

21,187 posts

260 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Simpo Two said:
Boosted LS1 said:
As for a cat then it's an easy diy, just use sharp clippers.
Have you actually tried that? Mine would rip me to pieces!
Yes, I used to clip all our cats claws if needed which wasn't very often. Most of the time they keep them short themselves by sharpening them. You can calm them down with some catnip beforehand or so I've just been told.

BoRED S2upid

19,700 posts

240 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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shedweller said:
My dog had an op on his foot - they made mess of it and it got infected.

£5 for latex gloves
£45 for a bandage change every 48hrs

Original estimate was 340 for everything

By the time he was right it was £1400 - all they kept saying was "you have got insurance haven't you?"
Isn’t that the bigger issue? It’s all done through insurance so they can charge a premium. Same as car insurance ten times the cost of an independent just because they can.

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

85,422 posts

265 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Boosted LS1 said:
Simpo Two said:
Boosted LS1 said:
As for a cat then it's an easy diy, just use sharp clippers.
Have you actually tried that? Mine would rip me to pieces!
Yes, I used to clip all our cats claws if needed which wasn't very often. Most of the time they keep them short themselves by sharpening them. You can calm them down with some catnip beforehand or so I've just been told.
lol catnip turns a normal cat into a full-blown monster!

Never had to clip my cat's claws, they shed them naturally.

super7

1,934 posts

208 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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We’re about to go down the self-insured root… with 5 dogs and a monthly bill of £250 we can cover most issues after a couple of months and will use savings as a stop gap if a big issue occurs….

Patch1875

4,894 posts

132 months

Saturday 21st May 2022
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2 cats annual booster £130 for the pair although they said something is only getting done every 3 years now but it didn’t make it cheaper!

In and out in less than 10 mins.

apotek

647 posts

185 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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After a £106 visit with blood test our vet diagnosed overactive thyroid in our old uninsured cat and wanted £56 for carbimazole 5mg.
I have just obtained 200 for £8 from a portuguese pharmacy.
I didn`t feel over charged on the visit but medication seemed very pricy.

shocks

787 posts

164 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Just reading this thread, touch wood not much cost recently for our pooch. For the horses, however, I'd suggest you never get into nags. Vet bills here would bring a tear to a glass eye... recent events, Nag 1 scoping and diagnosed as low-grade stomach ulcer, treatment; £1200. Nag 2, spring grass, went tonto eating it resulting in the onset of colic as a result and wee trauma with the state he got himself in. Emergency vet, sedation, investigation (big arm glove on), clean up and drugs. £695.


anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Mrs Spoon is a Vet. Someone needs to fund her extortionate locum fee's.

James72911

189 posts

197 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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Interesting topic, we live in Dubai with 3 rescued monsters, I mean cats. Love them, but 2 are getting on, and the youngest one had a hard start to life, so all three seem to be regular visitors to the vets.

Maybe we have been lucky, but i think their fees are reasonable - 7+ years at college, big overheads to set up and run the practice, all adds up.

By way of comparison, nail clipping for the youngest (has an ingrowing nail, probably caused by being kicked in the past...) about £10 a time for all the nails - (he would not let us near his claws...!) seems reasonable to me.

Other treatments/consults/minor surgery have all seemed reasonable to me.

Just to add, pet insurance is not really available out here, so maybe that has an impact

TheFungle

4,074 posts

206 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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Vet fees are fascinating on many levels.

I'm curious - what do most folks on here think the annual salary of a competent vet should be?

I've been privy to 'the financials' of a practice and it's not the honey pot I was expecting.


downthepub

1,373 posts

206 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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We've changed vets due to incompetence on the originals, but from them a couple of beauts:
  • £48.50 for a 4 minute consultation in the car park.
  • £1400 quote for an allergy assessment. Done for free when I changed to poultry free dog food.
Frustrating when most puppy bills were about £70, and the insurance excess was £75. Eerie. Must be a coincidence.

Sheepshanks

32,757 posts

119 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Our cat wasn't well and took it last Sunday to the hospital that's in the same group as our vet is.

Quite an impressive place, quite busy even at 9AM on Sunday morning. When we picked him up on Tuesday there were four receptionists on the desk!

Thank God we have him insured - I'm not even sure why we do, we've always had a cat and never insured them before. However the claim limit is £4K and those two nights in hospital plus a cardiology ultrasound scan and were getting perilously close to the limit.

The place must be raking in a fortune.


As for 10mins with the dentist - I see ours privately, bit of chat and then she's actually looking in my mouth for about 30 seconds. If you want a scale and polish then you see the hygienist.

Simpo Two

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85,422 posts

265 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Sheepshanks said:
Our cat wasn't well and took it last Sunday to the hospital...
Hospital?

Big_Dog

974 posts

185 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Our cat has had a hip replacement that has failed some 5 weeks in. Next hip is a custom made dog one. Unfortunately I have a 20% contribution to the claim cost. My contribution would buy four more cats.
The bill is terrifying but it's quite a skill working on a huge variation of creatures and rare skills always seem to be expensive.

Simpo Two

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85,422 posts

265 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Big_Dog said:
Our cat has had a hip replacement that has failed some 5 weeks in. Next hip is a custom made dog one. Unfortunately I have a 20% contribution to the claim cost. My contribution would buy four more cats.
The bill is terrifying but it's quite a skill working on a huge variation of creatures and rare skills always seem to be expensive.
In any other industry, if something broke after 5 weeks you'd get a free replacement!

My cat was £50 (well actually £40 but I made it up to £50), so cheap to buy if not to run... smile

Superleg48

1,524 posts

133 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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We swear by our Vet. A smallish privately run operation with a fantastic team around her. She is a wonderful person who’s priority is the welfare of the animals she treats. The other vets in her practise have also been great. The practise charges fairly, in my opinion. Couple of things to note generally.

1. It takes many years to become a vet and many more to become a good one. A vet has to be a specialist in most things, unlike a doctor who are either GPs (Generally Poor) or specialists in one area. A vet’s patient cannot discuss its ailments, so the vet has to be able to read between the lines and use their expertise and experience earned over many years to narrow down the issue and try their best to avoid unnecessary tests/procedures.

2. Drugs are expensive. All drugs, including human drugs. We have the NHS to shield us from these expensive costs. There is no NHS for dogs, so we have to pay the market rate for drugs.

3. You can save money just getting a script and sourcing your animal’s drugs online. If, like ours, your vet is fair with their pricing, you will not be stripped of the shirt off your back. It is, in my view, important to support your local vet as far as possible because….

4. Equipment costs a fortune. Scanners, X-ray machine, laser treatment devices, theatre equipment for ops, the list goes on. Then there are staff costs, premises cost, utilities - vet practices tend to use a lot of electricity. Our vet probably earns less per hour than her receptionist relative to the hours worked. She practically lives there and when she is at home, she often has in patients at her home overnight.

I do not begrudge her or her practice a penny for what they do for our animals.

All of the above does not apply to corporate VC backed group practises who all may as well wear masks, berets and striped tops.

If you can, find a good independent vet practice, even if it is not immediately local and strike up a relationship with them. They really appreciate it and makes a massive difference to the “how much?!” Brigade who have no idea about the realities of running a practice and the small fact that yesterday they saved your animal’s life.

Sheepshanks

32,757 posts

119 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Simpo Two said:
Hospital?
Yep - https://www.northwichvets.com

Mikebentley

6,105 posts

140 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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French bulldog went lame….what a surprise. Two new knees, two hips and spinal surgery. £25,000.00 was the quote. We went down the strong pain killers etc route reducing over 12 months. It cost about £500 in total and he is seemingly fine.

Our Vizsla at 8 yrs had been back and forth at £100+ a visit for 2yrs when they eventually did an ultrasound and discovered a huge ( grapefruit sized) cist in her chest. It was removed as was £2k.

Having never paid insurance in 20 yrs I think I’m winning.

monty999

1,121 posts

105 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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Superleg48 said:
We swear by our Vet. A smallish privately run operation with a fantastic team around her. She is a wonderful person who’s priority is the welfare of the animals she treats. The other vets in her practise have also been great. The practise charges fairly, in my opinion. Couple of things to note generally.

1. It takes many years to become a vet and many more to become a good one. A vet has to be a specialist in most things, unlike a doctor who are either GPs (Generally Poor) or specialists in one area. A vet’s patient cannot discuss its ailments, so the vet has to be able to read between the lines and use their expertise and experience earned over many years to narrow down the issue and try their best to avoid unnecessary tests/procedures.

2. Drugs are expensive. All drugs, including human drugs. We have the NHS to shield us from these expensive costs. There is no NHS for dogs, so we have to pay the market rate for drugs.

3. You can save money just getting a script and sourcing your animal’s drugs online. If, like ours, your vet is fair with their pricing, you will not be stripped of the shirt off your back. It is, in my view, important to support your local vet as far as possible because….

4. Equipment costs a fortune. Scanners, X-ray machine, laser treatment devices, theatre equipment for ops, the list goes on. Then there are staff costs, premises cost, utilities - vet practices tend to use a lot of electricity. Our vet probably earns less per hour than her receptionist relative to the hours worked. She practically lives there and when she is at home, she often has in patients at her home overnight.

I do not begrudge her or her practice a penny for what they do for our animals.

All of the above does not apply to corporate VC backed group practises who all may as well wear masks, berets and striped tops.

If you can, find a good independent vet practice, even if it is not immediately local and strike up a relationship with them. They really appreciate it and makes a massive difference to the “how much?!” Brigade who have no idea about the realities of running a practice and the small fact that yesterday they saved your animal’s life.
I agree with most of that. We have recently had our black Lab pup and this time I wanted to support an independently owned vet. So we found a vet practice (not the closest), their website advertised the fact that they charge reasonable rates but, unlike the large company owned practices, don't make money on inflated meds etc.

First visit for vaccination, second visit for second jab we mentioned that he had had some diarrhoea but it had improved after changing his food. Vet said we'll give him something to firm things up anyway, £23.60 for some stuff in a syringe which we then find that we could have bought the same without prescription at Pets at Home for just £13 !! and that's before searching on-line. I wouldn't have minded paying a few quid extra, but ripping us off to the tune of 100% (and that's just at the PaH price) has destroyed the initial thought of supporting the small practice.

We didn't use the stuff anyway as we wanted to make sure that the food change did the trick first, which it did.

Thevet

1,789 posts

233 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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Superleg48 said:
All of the above does not apply to corporate VC backed group practises who all may as well wear masks, berets and striped tops.

If you can, find a good independent vet practice, even if it is not immediately local and strike up a relationship with them. They really appreciate it and makes a massive difference to the “how much?!” Brigade who have no idea about the realities of running a practice and the small fact that yesterday they saved your animal’s life.
The first line is incorrect, mainly due to its generalisation. It is also insulting to me and my team who work for a corporate business, saying we don't care about our patients as much as money. There may be vets, independent or part of a larger business who don't care about individual relationships, but it is not all of us by any means.
I have been running, building and investing in this business for over 30 years and I am proud of how "my" practice performs. It is more to do with the people who now bwecome vets than who owns the business that you find the care or don't care attitude.
New graduates don't want to do on-call work, they don't want to work weekends, they want a 4 day week, and they expect £40k starting salary. It's sometimes hard to get the public to understand the overall difficulty of running a business like this, and it was even harder through covid. There is a national shortage of vets, driving up wages which, now that we have a parent company, means that the financial deficit no longer needs to come out of my house or pension.