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Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

197 months

Friday 13th June 2008
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I hate cats and i'm after some advice from people who like cats / know about them.

I have a veg patch and it seems all the local cats have decided they want to st in it every night. I want to keep them off it. I'm accepting that shooting them isn't an option and also that cat owners are not like dog owners who would be embarassed if their dog tried to stop for a st on you drive/ lawn so won't let them. They couldn't give a toss letting their cats out every night to make a nuisance of themselves so knocking on all the cat owners houses and asking them to control their pets isn't an option. I can't get a dog to chase them off as i wouldn't dream of owning a pet I couldn't properly look after, i.e take for a walk on a lead 3 times a day.

So I've tried the "cat repellant" granules, but unless you cover all the surface every day with the stuff they are not effective. Any tips?? Are there any plants they hate the smell of or something that will generally put them off coming into my garden. Really pisses me off having to go out every morning to clear st off my food.

crackthatoff

3,312 posts

212 months

Friday 13th June 2008
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Herman Toothrot said:
I hate cats and i'm after some advice from people who like cats / know about them.

I have a veg patch and it seems all the local cats have decided they want to st in it every night. I want to keep them off it. I'm accepting that shooting them isn't an option and also that cat owners are not like dog owners who would be embarassed if their dog tried to stop for a st on you drive/ lawn so won't let them. They couldn't give a toss letting their cats out every night to make a nuisance of themselves so knocking on all the cat owners houses and asking them to control their pets isn't an option. I can't get a dog to chase them off as i wouldn't dream of owning a pet I couldn't properly look after, i.e take for a walk on a lead 3 times a day.

So I've tried the "cat repellant" granules, but unless you cover all the surface every day with the stuff they are not effective. Any tips?? Are there any plants they hate the smell of or something that will generally put them off coming into my garden. Really pisses me off having to go out every morning to clear st off my food.
ahh what you want is the opposite of a repellant, what you want is cat nip ( the plant) they absolutely love it .. so plant some away from your prize veg and plants and lifes a good'en !!!

oh and they do battery powered ultrasonic hi pitched cat annoyers that trip via motion detectors or in the worst case scenario get yourself a cat from the rspca.
you can post some cool pics, it will fend of other cats and will st elsewhere thumbup

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

197 months

Friday 13th June 2008
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crackthatoff said:
[in the worst case scenario get yourself a cat from the rspca.
smile Do they work like scarecrows, stuff one full of straw, shove a stick up its arse and plant it in the middle of the patch?

No seriously, if theres a plant that attracts them, the cat nip as you mention there must be something they dislike equally I could plant in the hedges around the garden. I really don't want to attract any cats as I've also worked hard to get plenty of birds in the garden, won't attracting them to another place mean I creat a dedicated cat toilet, or do they not st where they play / hangout as such?

Simpo Two

85,149 posts

264 months

Friday 13th June 2008
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Herman Toothrot said:
I hate cats and i'm after some advice from people who like cats / know about them.
You're not going to like the answer: get a cat. It will keep the other cats off, and then you only get one helping of cat poo instead of five smile

However, I have to think that a small turd on some freshly-dug soil is less bad than a steaming wlanut whip on a footpathwink

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

197 months

Friday 13th June 2008
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Simpo Two said:
Herman Toothrot said:
I hate cats and i'm after some advice from people who like cats / know about them.
You're not going to like the answer: get a cat. It will keep the other cats off, and then you only get one helping of cat poo instead of five smile

However, I have to think that a small turd on some freshly-dug soil is less bad than a steaming wlanut whip on a footpathwink
Dog owners that allow that are just as bad smile Dog should stick arse right in roadside hedge, not even someones house hedge.

Any turd, however small is not good when combined with stuff you want to pick and eat.

Simpo Two

85,149 posts

264 months

Friday 13th June 2008
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Herman Toothrot said:
Any turd, however small is not good when combined with stuff you want to pick and eat.
True. At least it's nice of you not to rant and rave about shotguns like some do!

OK, how about the sacrifical anode principle? Cats love to poo in sand even more than in soil. How about establishing a small sandpit, well away from Hermann's Price Veg, where the local mogs can crap their hearts out in perfect safety to both you and them?

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 13th June 2008
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Race2the Redline said:


R2TR
He is a really handsome cat!

great piccy!

This is my fella who i sadly had to have put down in March cry



His brother is still with me and i have taken a rescue cat in since.

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

197 months

Friday 13th June 2008
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Simpo Two said:
Herman Toothrot said:
Any turd, however small is not good when combined with stuff you want to pick and eat.
True. At least it's nice of you not to rant and rave about shotguns like some do!
I don't purely because they are someone pet and loved by them, if I thought they were "wild" as such the rifle would make an appearance the same it does for rats.

It's like FWD & RWD, everyones entitled to their own opinion you don't have to like what someone else does. smile

Is it just the fact its freshly dug soil do you think?

I have not inadvertantly planted something that attracts them? I've got lettuce, spinage, onions, potatoes, courgettes, tomatoes, strawberries, leaks, curly kale growing in the patch and its surrounded in pots by herbs that I thought would repel cats as they are smelly, mint, bay, thyme, rosemary, lemon thyme & sage.



Edited by Herman Toothrot on Friday 13th June 21:04

Simpo Two

85,149 posts

264 months

Friday 13th June 2008
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Herman Toothrot said:
Is it just the fact its freshly dug soil do you think? I have not inadvertantly planted something that attracts them? I've got lettuce, spinage, onions, courgettes, tomatoes, strawberries, leaks, curly kale growing in the patch and its surrounded in pots by herbs that I thought would repel cats as they are smelly, mint, bay, thyme, rosemary, lemon thyme & sage.
Cats are carnivores so apart from catmint and catnip they're not attracted by plants. However tomcats do spray on overhanging shrubs etc. Most cats bury their poo; it's only dominant ones that leave it on show as a deterrent/scent marking thing - so I'd guess your problem is just one cat, the local alpha male.

It's defo the fact that you keep your veg patch pristine that they like. Nice freshly dug soil, easy to dig. Maybe the pragmatic way to deal with it is simply to have a place where you can flip the offending turds? In time they rot down just like everything else and make fertiliser smile




Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

197 months

Friday 13th June 2008
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Simpo Two said:
Herman Toothrot said:
Is it just the fact its freshly dug soil do you think? I have not inadvertantly planted something that attracts them? I've got lettuce, spinage, onions, courgettes, tomatoes, strawberries, leaks, curly kale growing in the patch and its surrounded in pots by herbs that I thought would repel cats as they are smelly, mint, bay, thyme, rosemary, lemon thyme & sage.
Cats are carnivores so apart from catmint and catnip they're not attracted by plants. However tomcats do spray on overhanging shrubs etc. Most cats bury their poo; it's only dominant ones that leave it on show as a deterrent/scent marking thing - so I'd guess your problem is just one cat, the local alpha male.

It's defo the fact that you keep your veg patch pristine that they like. Nice freshly dug soil, easy to dig. Maybe the pragmatic way to deal with it is simply to have a place where you can flip the offending turds? In time they rot down just like everything else and make fertiliser smile
If its just that its freshly dug and weeded I'll gave a go to "trimming" the weeds/ grass that grows between stuff rather than pulling them up, no freshly turned soil no attraction?

Most are not burried, just deposited, occasionally its had a good scratch about half digging up my leaks frown

edit. P.S Thanks for the advice smile

Edited by Herman Toothrot on Friday 13th June 21:14

Marf

22,907 posts

240 months

Friday 13th June 2008
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Herman, cats hate citrus, be creative.

Supersoaker with lemon squash inside perhapswink

otolith

55,899 posts

203 months

Saturday 14th June 2008
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We keep the cats off the veg beds with netting.

High corner poles, garden wire:



Moveable frame:



Low mesh



Fence around tall plants (peas & beans)



Also, twigs work. The asparagus bed just has branches from last year's Christmas tree spread over it.

Edited by otolith on Saturday 14th June 13:36

oldbanger

4,316 posts

237 months

Saturday 14th June 2008
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Herman Toothrot said:
So I've tried the "cat repellant" granules, but unless you cover all the surface every day with the stuff they are not effective. Any tips?? Are there any plants they hate the smell of or something that will generally put them off coming into my garden. Really pisses me off having to go out every morning to clear st off my food.
There's a plant called scaredy cat
e.g. see http://www.hangingbasketsdirect.com/Product.asp?Pr...

Magners P.H

6,627 posts

213 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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Apologies if reposted.

IainT

10,040 posts

237 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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Herman Toothrot said:
Simpo Two said:
Herman Toothrot said:
Is it just the fact its freshly dug soil do you think? I have not inadvertantly planted something that attracts them? I've got lettuce, spinage, onions, courgettes, tomatoes, strawberries, leaks, curly kale growing in the patch and its surrounded in pots by herbs that I thought would repel cats as they are smelly, mint, bay, thyme, rosemary, lemon thyme & sage.
Cats are carnivores so apart from catmint and catnip they're not attracted by plants. However tomcats do spray on overhanging shrubs etc. Most cats bury their poo; it's only dominant ones that leave it on show as a deterrent/scent marking thing - so I'd guess your problem is just one cat, the local alpha male.

It's defo the fact that you keep your veg patch pristine that they like. Nice freshly dug soil, easy to dig. Maybe the pragmatic way to deal with it is simply to have a place where you can flip the offending turds? In time they rot down just like everything else and make fertiliser smile
If its just that its freshly dug and weeded I'll gave a go to "trimming" the weeds/ grass that grows between stuff rather than pulling them up, no freshly turned soil no attraction?

Most are not burried, just deposited, occasionally its had a good scratch about half digging up my leaks frown

edit. P.S Thanks for the advice smile

Edited by Herman Toothrot on Friday 13th June 21:14
Definately cats? Sounds very much like foxy behaviour. Our local foxes are buggers for digging up plants (in nice pots even, not the borders) and leave nice poos in strategic places...

Taita

7,592 posts

202 months

Friday 27th June 2008
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curtisl

1,369 posts

205 months

Friday 27th June 2008
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My cat at warp speed


guru_1071

2,768 posts

233 months

Friday 27th June 2008
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nexts door cat decided it quite likes crapping in our coal shed at home.

its a decent cat thats very nice so didnt want to scare it

after a little testing i discovered that a bit of curry powder or ground pepper scattered about soon stopped him. i just threw half a cup in every couple of days.

he tried a few times to return and reclaim it, but reappereard sneezing.

hes never been back,

he has now claimed my mothers chicken run as his own, and can often be found asleep in the nesting box, doesnt seem to bother the chickens............

Accelebrate

5,244 posts

214 months

Friday 27th June 2008
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A few from the albums...





Cat scan...




MK4 Slowride

10,028 posts

207 months

Sunday 29th June 2008
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Billy.






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