Brits who fight for ISIS - kill 'em says MP

Brits who fight for ISIS - kill 'em says MP

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/british-isis...

Nearly all Britons who join Islamic State should be killed he says.

Bet some types are choking on their cornflakes reading that.

loafer123

15,429 posts

215 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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A list of names and photos has been given to fighters to make sure the worst ones never make it here and I suspect this is being made very public to deter them from heading this way.

As an aside, if you want an interesting bet, try Rory Stewart for PM in a few years time. Even if he is an old Etonian, he is a thoughtful and experienced ex-spy.

Lotobear

6,295 posts

128 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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every Liberal's favourite Tory...wonder how the Guardian will play this one?!

Atomic12C

5,180 posts

217 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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Totally agree with him.
The mind-set of the ISIS fighter is to die in the goal of their caliphate - where up on they will have their virgins etc. etc..
There will be little point in changing tactics in order to try to save 'british' ISIS fighters, thinking that they'll simply surrender, or be caught, re-educated and then released back in to UK society.

Eradicate the threat they pose to the UK.
Otherwise they'll be back here in the UK, protected by liberal-left-wing lawyers and then able to spread their hate within. Opening the possibility of more Manchester style attacks. etc.

Composite Guru

2,207 posts

203 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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I go with that.

Treason was always punishable by death years ago.

CAPP0

19,577 posts

203 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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Non-question for me. JFDI.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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Kill them while they are in the field in arms. If any come back, prosecute them and attempt to de-radicalise them in prison. In the case of misguided and repentant youths who regret being misled, maybe cut them some slack. In other words, have a flexible policy.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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Point of detail: surely every Liberal's favourite Tories are Ken Clarke and Ruth Davidson.

Lotobear

6,295 posts

128 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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Not up here Breadvan.

'Rory the Tory' is our local MP and the socialists love him!

Even my brother, a University lecturer no less, thinks he's the biz.

Ken and Ruth don't even register on the radar in these here parts, notwithstanding the Jazz, suede loafers, same sex relationship and all round cuddliness!

Jawknee is innocent

2,575 posts

161 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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Lotobear said:
Not up here Breadvan.

'Rory the Tory' is our local MP and the socialists love him!

Even my brother, a University lecturer no less, thinks he's the biz.

Ken and Ruth don't even register on the radar in these here parts, notwithstanding the Jazz, suede loafers, same sex relationship and all round cuddliness!
Nicolas Soames is the current BBC favourite, usurping Ken Clarke.

souper

2,433 posts

211 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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I agree with his assessment.

Watched two 2010 BBC documentaries "Afghanistan The Great Game – A Personal View by Rory Stewart" on Netflix a couple of weeks ago his knowledge about middle-east is pretty spectacular, he even spent two years walking across Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nepal, India, staying in 500 homes, no wonder he has bandy legs.

Read his Wikipage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rory_Stewart


andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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I see some conscience wrangling already on a few outlets, what about the young, naïve people that now regret it?

I'm afraid I'm in the tough-titties camp on that one myself.

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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Labour MP appearing on Daily Politics today, reckons what has been said is wrong! She said that people may go over but not fight, they may change thier minds. Basically coming up with loads of bullshine defending the poor little innocents who are misguided. Daily Politics second guest, Tory MP Mercer, soon put her right by pointing out such details like sifting out the chaff and identify those that fight and kill Western soldiers, the ones worth targeting
Explaining how tough it is to get permission to target and kill an enemy of the UK. Listening to the Labour MP spouting her pov was truely a worrisome moment, and I again considered the magnitude of damage Labour would inflict should they ever take Office.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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crankedup said:
Labour MP appearing on Daily Politics today, reckons what has been said is wrong! She said that people may go over but not fight, they may change thier minds. Basically coming up with loads of bullshine defending the poor little innocents who are misguided. Daily Politics second guest, Tory MP Mercer, soon put her right by pointing out such details like sifting out the chaff and identify those that fight and kill Western soldiers, the ones worth targeting
Explaining how tough it is to get permission to target and kill an enemy of the UK. Listening to the Labour MP spouting her pov was truely a worrisome moment, and I again considered the magnitude of damage Labour would inflict should they ever take Office.
Preet Gill



turbomoped

4,180 posts

83 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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With his experience of the middle east and Afghanistan he can see that its a few fanatics that ruin the lives of millions.
They have shown they are not fit for a civilized society so I guess he offered the logical conclusion.
They only thing that sits a bit uncomforably is the uk quietly encouraged them to go off to fight as they were doing mayhem in syria and the middle east and we liked that.
They failed in our mission so now the are surplus to requirement.

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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Rory the Tory is way too short and ugly to become PM. But he has a very memorable name and is starting to make a name for himself in a BoJo-type way.

He has a fair point. If you wanna go fight for the enemy, you will be treated like an enemy.

But, as above, the UK government encourages fighters to head overseas, and then turns against them when it goes wrong.



Edited by Yipper on Monday 23 October 18:12

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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I'm torn with this one.

Nah, not really, only joking.

Splat them.

Lotobear

6,295 posts

128 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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Yes, off with the goolies

JagLover

42,381 posts

235 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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Yipper said:
But, as above, the UK government encourages fighters to head overseas, and then turns against them when it goes wrong.
Now mentioned twice on this thread.

I am aware of a UK government campaign to stop people joining ISIS but not aware of any similar campaign to "encourage fighters to go to the Middle east", perhaps you would like to provide examples.

As to the subject of the OP. Those who join ISIS have joined an armed group opposed to the west. Those proved to be members should be locked up upon their return. Those still in the field should be killed with impunity.

The fact that Labour seems to have difficulty properly condemning them tells you a great deal about the moral equivalency in which they place such extreme groups and the west.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

172 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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JagLover said:
Yipper said:
But, as above, the UK government encourages fighters to head overseas, and then turns against them when it goes wrong.
Now mentioned twice on this thread.

I am aware of a UK government campaign to stop people joining ISIS but not aware of any similar campaign to "encourage fighters to go to the Middle east", perhaps you would like to provide examples.
Sounds like conspiracy theory rubbish to me.