Most disappointing holiday/tourist destination/attractions?
Discussion
Matt Harper said:
I have the 'misfortune' to live in the metro Orlando area and the resemblance to Blackpool and Basildon is quite striking...
If you screw your eyes up a bit, it would be hard to tell them apart.
Bradenton, Ft Myers, Naples and Marco are OK if you're good with living among the, predominantly, nearly-dead - but Punta Gorda? The same Punta Gorda that is the trailer park capital of the southeastern US? That Punta Gorda?
Can’t argue about the photos Matt, they make the place look really good, and to be fair, some of Orlando isn’t bad to look at, but when the Brits are in town it’s not so good in my opinion.If you screw your eyes up a bit, it would be hard to tell them apart.
Bradenton, Ft Myers, Naples and Marco are OK if you're good with living among the, predominantly, nearly-dead - but Punta Gorda? The same Punta Gorda that is the trailer park capital of the southeastern US? That Punta Gorda?
Also, I took my wife to Macy’s, on the Orange Blossom Trail in Orlando, and while she headed away from the car, a hooker propositioned me in the parking lot.
Sure the demographic in Sarasota-Bradenton, Naples and Marco Island is older residents, but I’m there renting for two or three weeks, they don’t cloud my view.
As for P.G.s trailer parks, maybe I need to visit SpecSavers, I don’t recall noticing them, but if you say they’re there, I won’t doubt you.
We usually rent either side of I 75, or U.S. 41, the Tamiami Trail, Rum Cay, West Henry, Marion Ave. etc.
Dean’s South of the Border Tex-Mex joint has good live bands some weekends, and you can get loaded in Fishermans Village, on Marion, then walk home, and leave the car.
djc206 said:
Matt Harper, in fairness this thread is about tourist destinations. I live near Southampton, perfectly pleasant area to live in but I’m not going to be recommending it to any foreigners I meet on my travels.
Sorry, I'm not tracking you here. Are you suggesting that Southampton has a similar tourist destination profile as Orlando FL?alangla said:
Jaguar steve said:
But you instantly knew who I meant didn't you? 
Just for the record I have no problem with Himself whatsoever. Anybody who can fly me to the SoF or Balkan States or the Canaries or in fact anywhere else in Euroland I fancy both faster and cheaper than me driving from one side of the UK to the other gets my business every holiday.
Have you tried one of his package holidays? I was in Lanzarote a month or so ago & Ryanair Holidays (actually a brand name for a Swiss company) did me the exact same hotel (one that PH appears to like given the threads on Lanzarote in here), same room type, same board basis as Jet2, but £300 cheaper. The only differences were that I had to pay £50 for a bag and I left/returned 1 day earlier from Prestwick instead of Glasgow, but at much, much more pleasant times. Coach transfer worked fine and journey/pick-up times were perfectly reasonable. I also paid for seats (£8) to make sure the infamous seat allocation algorithm didn't have me in the cockpit & SWMBO in the rear galley, but overall about £240 less all-in. I'd do it again.Just for the record I have no problem with Himself whatsoever. Anybody who can fly me to the SoF or Balkan States or the Canaries or in fact anywhere else in Euroland I fancy both faster and cheaper than me driving from one side of the UK to the other gets my business every holiday.
We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
Jaguar steve said:
We don't do package holidays.
We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
That's what we do; much like your wife, my life loves trawling the internet and TripAdvisor to find the best places to stay and eat, we start with flight times and take it from there.We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
When we land at the airport we get a taxi or public transport to wherever we are staying and when we move on to somewhere else we do the same. We book any excursions or days out ourselves, either whilst at home or when we are at our destination, direct with the company running said event.
Friends and colleagues think we are either mad or brave doing it like that; we've never had an issue it makes it more fun and if things do go tits up there will be a solution.
HTP99 said:
That's what we do; much like your wife, my life loves trawling the internet and TripAdvisor to find the best places to stay and eat, we start with flight times and take it from there.
When we land at the airport we get a taxi or public transport to wherever we are staying and when we move on to somewhere else we do the same. We book any excursions or days out ourselves, either whilst at home or when we are at our destination, direct with the company running said event.
Friends and colleagues think we are either mad or brave doing it like that; we've never had an issue it makes it more fun and if things do go tits up there will be a solution.
I've been to Zanzibar, India, Florida but the purpose of my holidays is a break from work but also a break from people so flounders frying round a pool talking about football or anything other than where we are ( not water parks) are to be avoided.When we land at the airport we get a taxi or public transport to wherever we are staying and when we move on to somewhere else we do the same. We book any excursions or days out ourselves, either whilst at home or when we are at our destination, direct with the company running said event.
Friends and colleagues think we are either mad or brave doing it like that; we've never had an issue it makes it more fun and if things do go tits up there will be a solution.
I have a villa holiday in Spain with kids, in the summer where the destination is dictated by best value villa and cheapest flights. By saving money, I can get 3 more jaunts to the Canaries, Mallorca or Spain, again dictated by the cheapest flights X apartment X car hire. Hotels are a rip-off for a cardboard noise box.
LuS1fer said:
I have a villa holiday in Spain with kids, in the summer where the destination is dictated by best value villa and cheapest flights.
I've managed to persuade the family to do France for a few years but this year they are insisting on Spain. The price of villas has made me wince, could you point me towards better value sites? Like you not bothered by destination too much although I assume they'll want a beach nearby.schmunk said:
djc206 said:
No. I’m saying being a wonderful place to live and a wonderful place to visit can be two separate things.
...and where does Southampton fit into this? 
Here’s what I should have written; Orlando is perfectly nice but beyond the parks it’s really rather unremarkable as a tourist destination.
HTP99 said:
Jaguar steve said:
We don't do package holidays.
We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
That's what we do; much like your wife, my life loves trawling the internet and TripAdvisor to find the best places to stay and eat, we start with flight times and take it from there.We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
When we land at the airport we get a taxi or public transport to wherever we are staying and when we move on to somewhere else we do the same. We book any excursions or days out ourselves, either whilst at home or when we are at our destination, direct with the company running said event.
Friends and colleagues think we are either mad or brave doing it like that; we've never had an issue it makes it more fun and if things do go tits up there will be a solution.
For the last 5 years though our priorities and needs have changed a little...rest / convenience / facilities are now the key objectives...
HTP99 said:
Jaguar steve said:
We don't do package holidays.
We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
That's what we do; much like your wife, my life loves trawling the internet and TripAdvisor to find the best places to stay and eat, we start with flight times and take it from there.We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
When we land at the airport we get a taxi or public transport to wherever we are staying and when we move on to somewhere else we do the same. We book any excursions or days out ourselves, either whilst at home or when we are at our destination, direct with the company running said event.
Friends and colleagues think we are either mad or brave doing it like that; we've never had an issue it makes it more fun and if things do go tits up there will be a solution.
Madness lies in doing what many mass market tourism clients seem to do spending hundreds, maybe even thousands more for a generally dismal and overcrowded experience simply because they CBA to plan trips for themselves. I do get it to some extent if you're absolutely knackered and have got kids to keep entertained but nonetheless paying somebody to do the legwork and ending up with whatever they can make the most money out of represents pretty poor value and I'd rather stick my cock into a bag of angry puff adders than do that now.
Queuing up for mediocre meals in some noisy dining room - just like like Butlins in the 1960s? Fkuck that.
HTP99 said:
Jaguar steve said:
We don't do package holidays.
We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
That's what we do; much like your wife, my life loves trawling the internet and TripAdvisor to find the best places to stay and eat, we start with flight times and take it from there.We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
When we land at the airport we get a taxi or public transport to wherever we are staying and when we move on to somewhere else we do the same. We book any excursions or days out ourselves, either whilst at home or when we are at our destination, direct with the company running said event.
Friends and colleagues think we are either mad or brave doing it like that; we've never had an issue it makes it more fun and if things do go tits up there will be a solution.
"What about here?" "Yes, it's lovely" "Or here?" "Yes, that's lovely too" "Better than the first place?" "Whatever you think is fine by me", etc.
We've done one or two package holidays in the past, just for convenience, but never full board.
I normally do the same - I stumbled on Ryanair's packages while trying to book a separate flight/hotel, but discovered it was miles cheaper. Normally I'd just get a taxi or pick up a car from the airport as well, but on this occasion it just so happened that it gave the exact hotel & better flights for a lot less than I was expecting to pay (and a lot less than booking it separately) - honestly, once you've decided where/when you're going (on other sites obviously), try it, you might be pleasantly surprised. It's the first package I think I've ever bought, normally we just buy flights direct from the airline & hotel from one of the price comparison sites with either car hire arranged separately again or a taxi at the airport.
Halmyre said:
HTP99 said:
Jaguar steve said:
We don't do package holidays.
We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
That's what we do; much like your wife, my life loves trawling the internet and TripAdvisor to find the best places to stay and eat, we start with flight times and take it from there.We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
When we land at the airport we get a taxi or public transport to wherever we are staying and when we move on to somewhere else we do the same. We book any excursions or days out ourselves, either whilst at home or when we are at our destination, direct with the company running said event.
Friends and colleagues think we are either mad or brave doing it like that; we've never had an issue it makes it more fun and if things do go tits up there will be a solution.
"What about here?" "Yes, it's lovely" "Or here?" "Yes, that's lovely too" "Better than the first place?" "Whatever you think is fine by me", etc.
We've done one or two package holidays in the past, just for convenience, but never full board.
"No, I f
king detest both Stanstead and Gatwick in equal measure so it doesn't matter""No, honestly you decide and book the whole lot yourself Sweetness - stick the dates on the kitchen calendar when you're done"
" Yes I'll bring the cases upstairs if we need them but perhaps you'd better pack as you know I'm hopeless at that as well"
Jaguar steve said:
Halmyre said:
HTP99 said:
Jaguar steve said:
We don't do package holidays.
We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
That's what we do; much like your wife, my life loves trawling the internet and TripAdvisor to find the best places to stay and eat, we start with flight times and take it from there.We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
When we land at the airport we get a taxi or public transport to wherever we are staying and when we move on to somewhere else we do the same. We book any excursions or days out ourselves, either whilst at home or when we are at our destination, direct with the company running said event.
Friends and colleagues think we are either mad or brave doing it like that; we've never had an issue it makes it more fun and if things do go tits up there will be a solution.
"What about here?" "Yes, it's lovely" "Or here?" "Yes, that's lovely too" "Better than the first place?" "Whatever you think is fine by me", etc.
We've done one or two package holidays in the past, just for convenience, but never full board.
"No, I f
king detest both Stanstead and Gatwick in equal measure so it doesn't matter""No, honestly you decide and book the whole lot yourself Sweetness - stick the dates on the kitchen calendar when you're done"
" Yes I'll bring the cases upstairs if we need them but perhaps you'd better pack as you know I'm hopeless at that as well"
To be honest, if it was left to me we'd end up in a hovel in downtown Basra, assuming I ever got round to actually booking somewhere.
Halmyre said:
Jaguar steve said:
Halmyre said:
HTP99 said:
Jaguar steve said:
We don't do package holidays.
We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
That's what we do; much like your wife, my life loves trawling the internet and TripAdvisor to find the best places to stay and eat, we start with flight times and take it from there.We do cheapest flights or ferries, base model car hire - the scabbier and more battered the better - and self catering remote villas or gites or small independent hotels all researched and booked separately. We both enjoy good food and wine so the mass market slops on big chain hotel buffets and the often revolting manners of fellow diners and risibility poor entertainment aren't to our taste at all.
Mrs JS revels in organizing holiday stuff and spends hours looking for the best deals so I leave the where and when and how long for entirely up to her - to the point on one occasion as we left home I've had to ask her which airport I was driving to. The only thing I get picky about is if we're chartering and going sailing and the moment I've bookmarked a few boats I like she'll be straight on the case playing one broker off against the next for the best price and harassing them to throw in some extras for free.
Going independent and being flexible saves enough money to pay for at least one more holiday every year.
When we land at the airport we get a taxi or public transport to wherever we are staying and when we move on to somewhere else we do the same. We book any excursions or days out ourselves, either whilst at home or when we are at our destination, direct with the company running said event.
Friends and colleagues think we are either mad or brave doing it like that; we've never had an issue it makes it more fun and if things do go tits up there will be a solution.
"What about here?" "Yes, it's lovely" "Or here?" "Yes, that's lovely too" "Better than the first place?" "Whatever you think is fine by me", etc.
We've done one or two package holidays in the past, just for convenience, but never full board.
"No, I f
king detest both Stanstead and Gatwick in equal measure so it doesn't matter""No, honestly you decide and book the whole lot yourself Sweetness - stick the dates on the kitchen calendar when you're done"
" Yes I'll bring the cases upstairs if we need them but perhaps you'd better pack as you know I'm hopeless at that as well"
To be honest, if it was left to me we'd end up in a hovel in downtown Basra, assuming I ever got round to actually booking somewhere.
C Lee Farquar said:
I've managed to persuade the family to do France for a few years but this year they are insisting on Spain. The price of villas has made me wince, could you point me towards better value sites? Like you not bothered by destination too much although I assume they'll want a beach nearby.
It's a case of trawling Housetrip, Holiday Lettings. Owners Direct, Airbnb and Trip Advisor. Sadly, they are all becoming one as the sites are taken over by the main players. It is also very much a case of starting early. Last year, by April, all the 4 bed villas had gone and we ended up, well inland, in Algodonales.The offset is getting the biggest, nicest pool to sub for the sea, although we made trips to the beach.
My issue is needing four bedrooms for mother and kids, making it expensive - £1600 for the villa, this year, offset by cheap Vueling flights to Barcelona. This year, it is 15 minutes north of Lloret De Mar. LM so within striking distance of a beach.
If you can make do with apartments near the sea, with no pool or maybe shared, the choice is greater.
I also recommend a resort called Peniscola which is brilliant but requires a 1.5 hour drive down from Barcelona airport to take into account. As always, cheap flights mean a better villa or apartment and in the Canaries, car hire is a lot cheaper.
Anywhere is possible, depending on how necessary touristy things are. For example, there is a nice beach at El Mrdano and La Tejita, behind Tenerife airport that tends to be cheaper than the tourist areas.
djc206 said:
Ok maybe i should have my point more succinctly and not mentioned it.
Here’s what I should have written; Orlando is perfectly nice but beyond the parks it’s really rather unremarkable as a tourist destination.
OK - but the way I'm reading this is - without the tourist attractions, it's not attractive to tourists. Is that the insight?Here’s what I should have written; Orlando is perfectly nice but beyond the parks it’s really rather unremarkable as a tourist destination.
Jaguar steve said:
Queuing up for mediocre meals in some noisy dining room - just like like Butlins in the 1960s? Fkuck that.
Again, doing your research pays dividends, even if you're travelling the mainstream trail.
We've never gone FB or AI in our lives (OK, Maldives, once...but you're a captive audience). HB can be worthwhile if it's a cheap upgrade because it gives you a local option for lunch, or if you're too tired/lazy to go out to eat one night.
But that said, this year we went B&B in a genuinely really nice hotel (Canarian 5* so call it a low 4* in reality), and I got to see the evening buffet in operation...and it wasn't like any buffet I remember - 5 chefs cooking to order on display, a half-duck being carved, a paella with langoustines residing in it, etc etc.
Yes it was still a buffet, but for reference their breakfast was amongst the best I've ever experienced (couple of Scottish B&Bs and a fantastic Thai hotel excepted), so I think the dinner might be passable if I was forced into it.
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