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Kermit power said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
Kermit power said:
2. I don't believe BA Club Europe is ever good value for money, even if you are using Avios for it.
Well, you have now been given three specific examples where using BA Club Europe with avios gives excellent value for money. The fact you are still being so categoric it isn't ever good value just shows you are not listening particularly well.
The chief advantage of Club Europe is row 1 & not looking at everyone else.
GT03ROB said:
Am I missing something Club Europe doesn't have any extra legroom.
The chief advantage of Club Europe is row 1 & not looking at everyone else.
More legroom if in row 1, and I'm sure the seats are a bit wider in B737/A320 type planes (2 seats per side with an empty seat in the middle used as an armrest)The chief advantage of Club Europe is row 1 & not looking at everyone else.
GT03ROB said:
Am I missing something Club Europe doesn't have any extra legroom.
You're not missing anything. Kermit thinks the larger seat pitch is the one good reason to buy a Club Europe seat. Except there isn't any larger seat pitch. Maybe he should be aiming his "rofl" at himself, or restricting his comments to a topic he knows something about...
matrignano said:
GT03ROB said:
Am I missing something Club Europe doesn't have any extra legroom.
The chief advantage of Club Europe is row 1 & not looking at everyone else.
More legroom if in row 1, and I'm sure the seats are a bit wider in B737/A320 type planes (2 seats per side with an empty seat in the middle used as an armrest)The chief advantage of Club Europe is row 1 & not looking at everyone else.
GT03ROB said:
matrignano said:
GT03ROB said:
Am I missing something Club Europe doesn't have any extra legroom.
The chief advantage of Club Europe is row 1 & not looking at everyone else.
More legroom if in row 1, and I'm sure the seats are a bit wider in B737/A320 type planes (2 seats per side with an empty seat in the middle used as an armrest)The chief advantage of Club Europe is row 1 & not looking at everyone else.
Personally I always avoid row 1 - leg room isn't really an issue for me and I'd rather have my carry-on bag tucked under the seat infront than have to get up and down to the overhead locker/have the stty arm rest table.
Gareth1974 said:
A good thing with Avios is that there is no price hike during school holidays, I’ve recently booked return flights to Nice at the end of July for 2 adults and a child for points + £105, Ryanair flights were £700 for the same dates with much worse flight times.
There didn't used to be - but there is now! https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30593374-post3.htm...Puggit said:
There didn't used to be - but there is now! https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30593374-post3.htm...
It’s been like that for a couple of years. Always worth looking at Iberia’s as theirs is different if you can be bothered to pop down to Madrid.GT03ROB said:
Certainly the BA planes I've flown on seem to be the same width of seat.
I did think that, but if you look closely at the CE row of 3 with the centre seat being a table, the centre seat is or at least would be totally unusable as a seat & is more a gap that looks like a seat rather than a middle seat, which leads me to believe the seats either side must be physically wider & unless i'm mistaken do have a better recline than Economy on Short Haul, but perhaps are the same pitch as WT on Long Haul.w8pmc said:
GT03ROB said:
Certainly the BA planes I've flown on seem to be the same width of seat.
I did think that, but if you look closely at the CE row of 3 with the centre seat being a table, the centre seat is or at least would be totally unusable as a seat & is more a gap that looks like a seat rather than a middle seat, which leads me to believe the seats either side must be physically wider & unless i'm mistaken do have a better recline than Economy on Short Haul, but perhaps are the same pitch as WT on Long Haul.Somewhat of an anomaly, but a group of us are off to Ibiza in a few weeks having booked with BA Holidays including CE from MAN-IBZ & 4 nights at hard Rock Hotel for a friends 40th.
During the Summer season, BA have a direct flight from MAN-IBZ & this is what we'd booked (flight time out on the Thursday wasn't great as only arrive on the White Isle at just after midnight, but wasn't really a problem.
We get an email from BA in January saying they've cancelled both the outbound & return flights as not re-starting the route for 2019 until June. Of course we're all pissed off & although a refund was offered, we didn't relish given this was a special occasion swapping to a stag do laden EZY flight from LPL.
I call BA & they're very apologetic, but confirm they'll refund the flight cost or change our route if we'd prefer. I suggested thinking they'd refuse that we go via LHR & retain CE, so MAN-LHR-IBZ. To my surprise they said no problem as it was they who'd cancelled our original travel plans & the changes are made to all tickets. Now this has become a win/win as we arrive in IBZ 13hrs earlier than we originally would & depart on the Sunday just 1hr earlier, however we get 4 lounges, MAN & LHR T5 on the way out, plus IBZ & LHR T5 on the way back & the difference in overall published flight costs is around £950 per person had we booked this route initially over what we actually booked, so given 8 of us are travelling that's quite a saving whilst travelling on better aircraft, better flight timings & longer/more Lounge access, with the only downside being the overall travel time is longer, but hardly a chore.
Not really linked to Avios in any way so appoligies for that, but just thought it appropriate to give a big thumbs up to BA for their Customer Service.
During the Summer season, BA have a direct flight from MAN-IBZ & this is what we'd booked (flight time out on the Thursday wasn't great as only arrive on the White Isle at just after midnight, but wasn't really a problem.
We get an email from BA in January saying they've cancelled both the outbound & return flights as not re-starting the route for 2019 until June. Of course we're all pissed off & although a refund was offered, we didn't relish given this was a special occasion swapping to a stag do laden EZY flight from LPL.
I call BA & they're very apologetic, but confirm they'll refund the flight cost or change our route if we'd prefer. I suggested thinking they'd refuse that we go via LHR & retain CE, so MAN-LHR-IBZ. To my surprise they said no problem as it was they who'd cancelled our original travel plans & the changes are made to all tickets. Now this has become a win/win as we arrive in IBZ 13hrs earlier than we originally would & depart on the Sunday just 1hr earlier, however we get 4 lounges, MAN & LHR T5 on the way out, plus IBZ & LHR T5 on the way back & the difference in overall published flight costs is around £950 per person had we booked this route initially over what we actually booked, so given 8 of us are travelling that's quite a saving whilst travelling on better aircraft, better flight timings & longer/more Lounge access, with the only downside being the overall travel time is longer, but hardly a chore.
Not really linked to Avios in any way so appoligies for that, but just thought it appropriate to give a big thumbs up to BA for their Customer Service.
GT03ROB said:
w8pmc said:
GT03ROB said:
Certainly the BA planes I've flown on seem to be the same width of seat.
I did think that, but if you look closely at the CE row of 3 with the centre seat being a table, the centre seat is or at least would be totally unusable as a seat & is more a gap that looks like a seat rather than a middle seat, which leads me to believe the seats either side must be physically wider & unless i'm mistaken do have a better recline than Economy on Short Haul, but perhaps are the same pitch as WT on Long Haul.Some have 3 fixed seats with a table that clips between the middle seat arm rests meaning the 'active' seats are NOT width adjustable:
Others, and the type I've had the last few times flying LGW/GVA have 3 seats but the table build in to the middle seat back rest pad. Here the arms DO move to offer more space - though whether that's by design or just a side effect of them needing to come in and be supports for the narrower seat back table is open to question:
So ARE the seats wider in CE? Sometimes.
w8pmc said:
Somewhat of an anomaly, but a group of us are off to Ibiza in a few weeks having booked with BA Holidays including CE from MAN-IBZ & 4 nights at hard Rock Hotel for a friends 40th.
During the Summer season, BA have a direct flight from MAN-IBZ & this is what we'd booked (flight time out on the Thursday wasn't great as only arrive on the White Isle at just after midnight, but wasn't really a problem.
We get an email from BA in January saying they've cancelled both the outbound & return flights as not re-starting the route for 2019 until June. Of course we're all pissed off & although a refund was offered, we didn't relish given this was a special occasion swapping to a stag do laden EZY flight from LPL.
I call BA & they're very apologetic, but confirm they'll refund the flight cost or change our route if we'd prefer. I suggested thinking they'd refuse that we go via LHR & retain CE, so MAN-LHR-IBZ. To my surprise they said no problem as it was they who'd cancelled our original travel plans & the changes are made to all tickets. Now this has become a win/win as we arrive in IBZ 13hrs earlier than we originally would & depart on the Sunday just 1hr earlier, however we get 4 lounges, MAN & LHR T5 on the way out, plus IBZ & LHR T5 on the way back & the difference in overall published flight costs is around £950 per person had we booked this route initially over what we actually booked, so given 8 of us are travelling that's quite a saving whilst travelling on better aircraft, better flight timings & longer/more Lounge access, with the only downside being the overall travel time is longer, but hardly a chore.
Not really linked to Avios in any way so appoligies for that, but just thought it appropriate to give a big thumbs up to BA for their Customer Service.
And you get twice the Tier points - 160 vs 80During the Summer season, BA have a direct flight from MAN-IBZ & this is what we'd booked (flight time out on the Thursday wasn't great as only arrive on the White Isle at just after midnight, but wasn't really a problem.
We get an email from BA in January saying they've cancelled both the outbound & return flights as not re-starting the route for 2019 until June. Of course we're all pissed off & although a refund was offered, we didn't relish given this was a special occasion swapping to a stag do laden EZY flight from LPL.
I call BA & they're very apologetic, but confirm they'll refund the flight cost or change our route if we'd prefer. I suggested thinking they'd refuse that we go via LHR & retain CE, so MAN-LHR-IBZ. To my surprise they said no problem as it was they who'd cancelled our original travel plans & the changes are made to all tickets. Now this has become a win/win as we arrive in IBZ 13hrs earlier than we originally would & depart on the Sunday just 1hr earlier, however we get 4 lounges, MAN & LHR T5 on the way out, plus IBZ & LHR T5 on the way back & the difference in overall published flight costs is around £950 per person had we booked this route initially over what we actually booked, so given 8 of us are travelling that's quite a saving whilst travelling on better aircraft, better flight timings & longer/more Lounge access, with the only downside being the overall travel time is longer, but hardly a chore.
Not really linked to Avios in any way so appoligies for that, but just thought it appropriate to give a big thumbs up to BA for their Customer Service.
w8pmc said:
Indeed.
Winner winner chicken dinner
Albeit going Silver anyway in a couple of weeks (before the IBZ trip), but have zero chance of returning to the heady heights of Gold
I never got to Gold, but I feel the extra benefits over Silver are not enough to justify the additional effort/outlay, especially in my case as I pay for my own flights!Winner winner chicken dinner
Albeit going Silver anyway in a couple of weeks (before the IBZ trip), but have zero chance of returning to the heady heights of Gold
anonymous said:
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LOLJust had a look at my booking on the BA website & both myself & the Wife look as though we'll get the full 160 Tier Points rather than the 80 we'd have got from our original booking, as well as a fist full of Avios. Says 7558 for me, but as i'm currently Bronze but i'll move to Silver a week before these flights, it should be a little more.
As a double bonus, they also allocated our seats FOC which was rather nice of them
Edited by w8pmc on Thursday 18th April 16:38
Edited by w8pmc on Thursday 18th April 16:39
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