Should you be allowed to recline seat if big person behind?

Should you be allowed to recline seat if big person behind?

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CoolHands

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9,908 posts

140 months

Tuesday 20th August
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A z-listerfor those who don’t know, large woman stops a person from reclining their seat on a economy flight.

What’s your thoughts? I seem to remember that when this has been discussed before on here the consensus was you paid, they’ve made the function available, you’re allowed to do it. But - I’ve never heard of the person behind actually stopping the person in front from doing it, it’s always been a theoretical discussion until now.

To make it worse I think she was actually just complaining that the woman in front was simply moving about which makes the seat move! So not even reclined!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7372...

essayer

6,229 posts

139 months

Tuesday 20th August
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"The TOWIE star, 38, was sat in her seat with her tray down and wanted to rest her head on the back of the chair in front"

oh really, fk off

LimaDelta

3,960 posts

163 months

Tuesday 20th August
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nono Never recline in economy. It's just not cricket. As someone who sadly spends far too much time in BA short-haul economy seats I have observed this is generally only done by self-centred 'entitled' types.

Edit - just looked at the article - how come such a big* celebrity was in the back with the plebs anyway?

* Yes, pun intended

Edited by LimaDelta on Tuesday 20th August 09:57

LordGrover

30,838 posts

157 months

Tuesday 20th August
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Wow.

louiebaby

9,062 posts

136 months

Tuesday 20th August
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(For the record, I'm a very tall person, who barely fits in Economy seats, due to leg length.)

If the seat is able to recline, you can use it. You've paid for the seat, so you can use it. It's pretty simple really.

Those who are decent human beings, however, will consider the impact of their actions on their fellow travellers. But not a lot of people do. There is a simple rule to life, that if everyone followed, would eradicate almost all of the problems in the world.

Be considerate.

(You can re-write this as "Don't be a dick" or "Don't be a tt" but the use of gender specific genitalia may offend.)

CoolHands

Original Poster:

9,908 posts

140 months

Tuesday 20th August
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I generally use the incremental approach to be less 'in your face' than I could. So I reline it a small amount, then some time later a bit more, then after a while the final bit. It seems a bit less brash

LuS1fer

35,312 posts

190 months

Tuesday 20th August
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Consideration is the key. If someone reclines a seat into my limited space, that is "my space" so I have the right to continually tap out Under Pressure on the back of their seat or the tray because that's "my tray".

Fortunately, most cattle class planes have abolished it and, in fairness, I can't recall the last time anyone was that inconsiderate.

Integroo

5,698 posts

30 months

Tuesday 20th August
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I think it is inconsiderate.

However, I have another query about economy etiquette. I booked an aisle seat, on purpose, for a recent flight London to Edinburgh. It was the row right at the back. I boarded and sat down, and a very tall man appeared (must have been over 6ft5) who had the window seat. As this was the back seat, there was no window. He asked if he could sit on the aisle seat as he was tall. I said no, I had paid for an aisle seat (I am not as tall as him, but I am not short - 5ft11 - and did not want to sit on the inside with no window). He moaned and then made a big scene of squeezing himself in to the seat, apologising to the women in the middle who his legs were touching (he eventually found a way not to be touching) and generally made a big deal about being uncomfortable for the (relatively short) flight.

Am I the dick? In my mind, if you are very tall you should specifically book extra leg room. It is an option for a reason ... (I suspect he booked onto the flight late hence why on the last row, but not my problem).

tankplanker

2,471 posts

224 months

Tuesday 20th August
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If you paid for a particular seat then they also had the chance to pay for a seat with more leg room. Its their own fault if they are too tight to pay for the extra space when they clearly needed it.

NormalWisdom

2,040 posts

104 months

Tuesday 20th August
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All this "I think is is inconsiderate" is utter bull.

The seats have a recline facility. That makes the seating slightly more bearable for most. If some inconsiderate chump refuses to recline their seat they are making it less comfortable for the majority. If everyone reclined their seats all "personal space" would remain the same as it is if they remained upright (perhaps slightly more given the less acute angle!).


CzechItOut

1,442 posts

136 months

Tuesday 20th August
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CoolHands said:
I generally use the incremental approach to be less 'in your face' than I could. So I reline it a small amount, then some time later a bit more, then after a while the final bit. It seems a bit less brash
Passive-aggressive reclining?

rossub

2,252 posts

135 months

Tuesday 20th August
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I never fully recline and if the person in front does it, then they have the pleasure of my knees rammed into the back of their seat for much of the flight.

Passive aggressive.... yeah so what.

p4cks

3,372 posts

144 months

Tuesday 20th August
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She is overweight, which was her choice
She was on that flight in that seat, which was her choice
She was out the night before getting wkered and was hungover that morning, which was her choice
She reacted very poorly, which was her choice

I'm struggling to see it any other way.

hotchy

1,004 posts

71 months

Tuesday 20th August
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I just breath onto there head since I tower above the seat when reclined. Never stays down long.

djc206

5,402 posts

70 months

Tuesday 20th August
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Integroo said:
I think it is inconsiderate.

However, I have another query about economy etiquette. I booked an aisle seat, on purpose, for a recent flight London to Edinburgh. It was the row right at the back. I boarded and sat down, and a very tall man appeared (must have been over 6ft5) who had the window seat. As this was the back seat, there was no window. He asked if he could sit on the aisle seat as he was tall. I said no, I had paid for an aisle seat (I am not as tall as him, but I am not short - 5ft11 - and did not want to sit on the inside with no window). He moaned and then made a big scene of squeezing himself in to the seat, apologising to the women in the middle who his legs were touching (he eventually found a way not to be touching) and generally made a big deal about being uncomfortable for the (relatively short) flight.

Am I the dick? In my mind, if you are very tall you should specifically book extra leg room. It is an option for a reason ... (I suspect he booked onto the flight late hence why on the last row, but not my problem).
Absolutely not a dick. My sister is 5ft4 but she has something wrong with her back which means she needs to adjust her position regularly and move about often on long haul flights so always sits in the aisle seat. She’s had the same argument so now always emails/calls the airline to make sure she doesn’t get reassigned. If I were as tall as the chap you encountered I would do the same, if you need special treatment of any sort the onus is on you to arrange it in advance not simply have a tantrum on board.

Mr Pointy

4,109 posts

104 months

Tuesday 20th August
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djc206 said:
... if you need special treatment of any sort the onus is on you to arrange it in advance not simply have a tantrum on board.
Try flying on Qatar. On more than one occasion I've seen men insist a woman is removed from the same row as them. The crew complied & told her to move.

djc206

5,402 posts

70 months

Tuesday 20th August
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Mr Pointy said:
Try flying on Qatar. On more than one occasion I've seen men insist a woman is removed from the same row as them. The crew complied & told her to move.
I’ve flown with them before. Didn’t see that but I’m sure it happens. I believe flights to Israel often have similar gender based stupidity.

Jarcy

1,243 posts

220 months

Tuesday 20th August
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Definitely reclining seats in economy should be banned, or the ability to recline removed.
It's my biggest pet hate about flying when the person in front flips back their seat into my lap as soon as the seat belt signs are off.
It made an absolute misery of my 10 hour honeymoon flight (many years ago).

I think it's grossly inconsiderate and completely unnecessary. I'm not tall, but nonetheless it can force my knees into the back of the chair in front. And it makes using the tray table in flight very difficult, for say using a tablet, reading a book, eating a meal...

And doing it by stealth is just as bad.

abzmike

1,401 posts

51 months

Tuesday 20th August
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Jarcy said:
Definitely reclining seats in economy should be banned, or the ability to recline removed.
It's my biggest pet hate about flying when the person in front flips back their seat into my lap as soon as the seat belt signs are off.
It made an absolute misery of my 10 hour honeymoon flight (many years ago).

I think it's grossly inconsiderate and completely unnecessary. I'm not tall, but nonetheless it can force my knees into the back of the chair in front. And it makes using the tray table in flight very difficult, for say using a tablet, reading a book, eating a meal...

And doing it by stealth is just as bad.
If I have a 10 hour flight, and the seat is able to recline, then I am going to recline it. Clearly with consideration, and I’ll pull up for meals. If you recline you will have the same amount of space as you did before I have.

12TS

1,158 posts

155 months

Tuesday 20th August
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Short haul - no recline

Long haul - recline

Doesn't matter on the person sitting in the seat behind. If you've got a problem, you need to pay to reserve the seat you need.