Coronavirus concerns
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I'm supposed to be going to Tenerife in a fortnight. I'm not nervous about the virus itself, it's the prospect of being locked in the hotel for a fortnight that's putting me off! Hopefully things will be a bit clearer by then & there will be a clear steer (preferably from the FCO) as to whether to go or call off.
I don't normally buy package deals, but this time I'm glad I have - at least I'll be the tour operator's problem until I get home (I hope).
I don't normally buy package deals, but this time I'm glad I have - at least I'll be the tour operator's problem until I get home (I hope).
I'm getting on a big boat on Monday to Rotterdam, then motorhoming up to Germany. We should be fine.
In-laws embark on a big trip to the other side of the world. First stop Singapore for two nights at the Ritz Carlton, before continuing to Sydney and then around Oz for four weeks before a two week cruise from Sydney through Indonesia etc back to Singapore. MiL is slightly concerned, FiL will not entertain cancelling, but insurance will not cover postponement on dis-inclination . . .
In-laws embark on a big trip to the other side of the world. First stop Singapore for two nights at the Ritz Carlton, before continuing to Sydney and then around Oz for four weeks before a two week cruise from Sydney through Indonesia etc back to Singapore. MiL is slightly concerned, FiL will not entertain cancelling, but insurance will not cover postponement on dis-inclination . . .
alangla said:
I'm supposed to be going to Tenerife in a fortnight. I'm not nervous about the virus itself, it's the prospect of being locked in the hotel for a fortnight that's putting me off! Hopefully things will be a bit clearer by then & there will be a clear steer (preferably from the FCO) as to whether to go or call off.
I don't normally buy package deals, but this time I'm glad I have - at least I'll be the tour operator's problem until I get home (I hope).
I'm the same as you.I don't normally buy package deals, but this time I'm glad I have - at least I'll be the tour operator's problem until I get home (I hope).
Allanv said:
IT is just the flu
That is not correct. It is a SARS virus. Coronavirus is a broad category.'Just' the flu doesn't make much sense anyway, as the flu kills a lot of people.
This virus seems to not show symptoms for a couple of weeks, but you are infectious for that period, it lives for a relatively long time out side of the body, is easily transmitted and easily caught.
I am not enormously worried about it as the majority of people seem to get mild symptoms, but at the moment erring on the side of caution might pay off.
I am due to go to Orlando in a few weeks for a few days, it's a short haul flight and I will be travelling from a city which has a major airport and lots of travel in and out so most likely coming here what ever I do. It is a concern though.
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Allanv said:
Learn to wash your hands and we will be ok
This is also not true. How is washing your hands going to help the person next to you who won't have any symptoms for the next two weeks coughing near you and some of that material entering your mouth or eye? Like I say, I am not overly concerned, but I don't think it is right to peddle misinformation either as you are doing.
Edited by gregs656 on Thursday 27th February 15:42
gregs656 said:
Allanv said:
IT is just the flu
That is not correct. It is a SARS virus. Coronavirus is a broad category.'Just' the flu doesn't make much sense anyway, as the flu kills a lot of people.
This virus seems to not show symptoms for a couple of weeks, but you are infectious for that period, it lives for a relatively long time out side of the body, is easily transmitted and easily caught.
I am not enormously worried about it as the majority of people seem to get mild symptoms, but at the moment erring on the side of caution might pay off.
I am due to go to Orlando in a few weeks for a few days, it's a short haul flight and I will be travelling from a city which has a major airport and lots of travel in and out so most likely coming here what ever I do. It is a concern though.
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Allanv said:
Learn to wash your hands and we will be ok
This is also not true. How is washing your hands going to help the person next to you who won't have any symptoms for the next two weeks coughing near you and some of that material entering your mouth or eye? Like I say, I am not overly concerned, but I don't think it is right to peddle misinformation either as you are doing.
Edited by gregs656 on Thursday 27th February 15:42
iacabu said:
We're still a bit in limbo over our Thailand trip in April. As it stands, cost is £400 to cancel unless the Foreign Office advise against travel. I doubt our insurance through Halifax bank will cover anything until that time either, although need to check with them.
I'm a college lecturer and the mrs is a self employed hairdresser so if it came to needing a further 2 weeks off work after our 17 day trip, it would cause some problems.
I have had a look through the policy details, and it looks like Halifax (Ultimate reward account) insurance will cover cancellation from advice not to travel to your holiday destination, provided that advice is not prior to booking the holiday.I'm a college lecturer and the mrs is a self employed hairdresser so if it came to needing a further 2 weeks off work after our 17 day trip, it would cause some problems.
We are booked to Eurodisney for a few days from beginning of April, hope France hasn't shut its borders by then.......
chopper602 said:
In-laws embark on a big trip to the other side of the world. First stop Singapore for two nights at the Ritz Carlton, before continuing to Sydney and then around Oz for four weeks before a two week cruise from Sydney through Indonesia etc back to Singapore. MiL is slightly concerned, FiL will not entertain cancelling, but insurance will not cover postponement on dis-inclination . . .
That sounds a lovely itinerary, were it not for flesh eating zombie alert.. gregs656 said:
Allanv said:
IT is just the flu
That is not correct. It is a SARS virus. Coronavirus is a broad category.'Just' the flu doesn't make much sense anyway, as the flu kills a lot of people.
This virus seems to not show symptoms for a couple of weeks, but you are infectious for that period, it lives for a relatively long time out side of the body, is easily transmitted and easily caught.
I am not enormously worried about it as the majority of people seem to get mild symptoms, but at the moment erring on the side of caution might pay off.
I am due to go to Orlando in a few weeks for a few days, it's a short haul flight and I will be travelling from a city which has a major airport and lots of travel in and out so most likely coming here what ever I do. It is a concern though.
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Allanv said:
Learn to wash your hands and we will be ok
This is also not true. How is washing your hands going to help the person next to you who won't have any symptoms for the next two weeks coughing near you and some of that material entering your mouth or eye? Like I say, I am not overly concerned, but I don't think it is right to peddle misinformation either as you are doing.
Edited by gregs656 on Thursday 27th February 15:42
My work trip to Bangkok and then on to Tokyo was binned this week. The Tokyo bit, I completely understand but I was a bit pissed off about the Bangers section being pulled as they have very few cases there and it takes us months to re-strange the demos we were going to do with the Army. However, it would be churlish of me to insist we go, only for someone to then get sick so I chose to toe the corporate line
On balance, I’m not too pissed off as I was going to have to use all sorts of different passports to ensure that my main passport, that I’ve got visa’s against for use on a holiday to Africa next month, doesn’t show that I’ve been to Asia recently.
On balance, I’m not too pissed off as I was going to have to use all sorts of different passports to ensure that my main passport, that I’ve got visa’s against for use on a holiday to Africa next month, doesn’t show that I’ve been to Asia recently.
Edited by schmalex on Saturday 29th February 15:55
I'm booked to go to Tenerife towards the end of March and unless the FCO issue any advice to not travel I still intend to go.
According to some comments on the main thread on here that almost makes me a health terrorist but, perhaps naively, I still trust the advice of the government over internet doomsayers.
I do understand being more risk averse with young children though.
According to some comments on the main thread on here that almost makes me a health terrorist but, perhaps naively, I still trust the advice of the government over internet doomsayers.
I do understand being more risk averse with young children though.
Some right over reactions on here, it IS like the Flu or ‘common cold’, it’s from the same family. See WHO definition.
Coronaviruses (CoV) are a large family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases such as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS-CoV). A novel coronavirus (nCoV) is a new strain that has not been previously identified in humans.
I’ll be going to Singapore / Bali and wherever else I need to go.
Our factories have all reopened in China and everything seems to be getting better.
Coronaviruses (CoV) are a large family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases such as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS-CoV). A novel coronavirus (nCoV) is a new strain that has not been previously identified in humans.
I’ll be going to Singapore / Bali and wherever else I need to go.
Our factories have all reopened in China and everything seems to be getting better.
Lord.Vader said:
Coronaviruses (CoV) are a large family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases such as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS-CoV). A novel coronavirus (nCoV) is a new strain that has not been previously identified in humans.
Do the bits in bold not concern you even in the slightest?JapanRed said:
gregs656 said:
Allanv said:
IT is just the flu
That is not correct. It is a SARS virus. Coronavirus is a broad category.'Just' the flu doesn't make much sense anyway, as the flu kills a lot of people.
This virus seems to not show symptoms for a couple of weeks, but you are infectious for that period, it lives for a relatively long time out side of the body, is easily transmitted and easily caught.
I am not enormously worried about it as the majority of people seem to get mild symptoms, but at the moment erring on the side of caution might pay off.
I am due to go to Orlando in a few weeks for a few days, it's a short haul flight and I will be travelling from a city which has a major airport and lots of travel in and out so most likely coming here what ever I do. It is a concern though.
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Allanv said:
Learn to wash your hands and we will be ok
This is also not true. How is washing your hands going to help the person next to you who won't have any symptoms for the next two weeks coughing near you and some of that material entering your mouth or eye? Like I say, I am not overly concerned, but I don't think it is right to peddle misinformation either as you are doing.
Edited by gregs656 on Thursday 27th February 15:42
Am I going to stop going out ot the pub or into town, well nope.
The only people that seem so scared are Londoners and those from that there Yorkshire.
The rest of us do not give a s
t and do not watch the news or SM.Edited by Allanv on Saturday 29th February 18:39
Trekking holiday booked in northern Italy (not quarantined areas) in Sept. still planning on going unless I can’t - i.e UK govt issues travel warning. People need to remember that if you are fit and healthy this virus is no worse for you than typical flu. Fact. The issue is for those with underlying health conditions as there is no vaccine for them (unlike flu) .
I have a friend - consultant NHS - involved in the UK preparations who tells me that the death rate is not 2 - 3 % as some here are stating but lower as they believe the Chinese have far more cases than they are admitting.
I have a friend - consultant NHS - involved in the UK preparations who tells me that the death rate is not 2 - 3 % as some here are stating but lower as they believe the Chinese have far more cases than they are admitting.
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