RE: New Volkswagen Golf GTI officially revealed

RE: New Volkswagen Golf GTI officially revealed

Thursday 27th February 2020

New Volkswagen Golf GTI officially revealed

Ahead of its public debut, the Mk8 GTI is finally upon us. Will it be Mk5 good? Or Mk3 bad? Full details here....



Right then. The prototypes, test mules, teasers and spy shots are out of the way at last; we can finally get a first good look at the new range of sporty Golfs. Or rather we could last week, when PH travelled to Volkswagen's Wolfsburg HQ to lay eyes on the new cars. Not just the sacred GTI, but its GTE and GTD siblings as well, models which now more than ever have a significant part to play in VW's hot hatch hierarchy. There's plenty to digest, so let's dive right in.

We'll start with performance, seeing as that's why we're all here. A (unchanged and widely predicted) 245hp headline figure from the GTI is matched for the first time by the GTE, which previously only managed to muster 208hp from its hybrid set up. In the GTI's case, that comes with 273lb ft of torque from the familiar 2.0-litre, turbocharged EA888 evo4 four-pot, while the 200kg-heavier GTE manages a superior 295lb ft thanks to its electrified innards.

There, a 1.4-litre turbocharged petrol engine and 85kW electric motor are joined by a new lithium-ion battery which, at 13kWh, is 50 per cent larger than the one used previously. This is enough for an all-electric range of 37 miles, with clever tech able to decide whether to take advantage of that cleaner-running ability from the get-go, use it to supplement performance while driving, or hold it in reserve for arrival into a low-emission urban environment at the end of the journey.


If that journey is a long one, then it'll be the GTD which you're after. Its 2.0-litre, four-cylinder TDI motor produces just 200hp, but matches the GTE's 295lb ft of twist. Not only does its powertrain feature the same 'twin dosing' system seen on the new Passat - which selectively injects AdBlue upstream of two separate SCR catalytic converters, reducing NOx emissions by up to 80 per cent - but it boasts a range of up to 1,000km (620 miles) on a single tank as well.

When it comes to transmissions, the GTI will come with a six-speed manual gearbox as standard and a new 'shift-by-wire' seven-speed DSG as an option. GTD buyers will have to make do with that seven-speed dual clutch alone, and GTE owners will receive a conventional six-speed automatic, its ratios being better tailored to hybrid efficiency.


Performance isn't all about powertrains, though, and that's where the new Mk8 cars really ought to come into their own. The Performance Pack of the previous generation is no more, the standard GTI now benefitting from the 15mm-lower sports suspension, improved brakes and locking diff that car came with. A new driving dynamics control system known as the Vehicle Dynamics Manager makes its debut, too. This controls various features including the diff and dampers, supposedly unlocking "significantly sharpened driving dynamics" as a result. Sounds vaguely promising.

Styling-wise, opinions on the Mk8 are obviously subjective; what's harder to debate is the increase in aerodynamic efficiency that the new design enables. Each of the three performance variants benefit from this overall itheir own. The GTI's dual exhausts aren't matched by the twin pipes exiting beside each other on the GTD, for example, or the lack of any visible tailpipe on the GTE. Alongside a new full-width lightbar (markets beyond the EU will also receive an illuminated badge, which doesn't pass regs here) the GTI's red detailing sets it apart from the blue of the GTE and the silver of the GTD.


Inside, those colour schemes are carried over, each car's upholstery displaying a different take on the famous GTI tartan. That's about the only thing that's traditional in the thoroughly modern cabin, however. A new multifunction leather sports steering wheel takes centre stage, in front of a 10.25-inch digital dash shared across the VW Group. In the GTE, this forms one half of the 'Innovision Cockpit' which also includes a 10-inch Discover Pro navigation system and is optional on the other two models. Should you not opt to tick that box, an 8.25-inch infotainment screen will take its place.

Aside from the screens the cabin is kept strikingly minimalist, with just a handful of buttons atop the transmission tunnel, alongside a small and subtle gear selector - no manual GTIs were present at our sneak peek - and to the side of the wheel. This shouldn't make it unattractive to old-school drivers, though, with the digital setup offering purist features like a central rev dial on demand.

Order books for the GTI are due to open in the summer, with the GTD potentially following slightly later. Deliveries of both will commence by the end of the year. Performance variants - including the R - currently account for around 40 per cent of UK Golf sales, meaning VW is sure to have plenty of interest on its hands. And that's before we get to the rumoured return of the Clubsport or the potential for a new 329hp Golf R... For now, though, the latest generation of the original volume hot hatch awaits its public debut at Geneva next week.


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Dombilano

Original Poster:

1,132 posts

55 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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My word, that's a dull looking car

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Dombilano said:
My word, that's a dull looking car
laugh

Bless, did your mummy help you with that comment?

okenemem

1,358 posts

194 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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wheres the r

Vickers_VC10

6,759 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Alucidnation said:
Dombilano said:
My word, that's a dull looking car
laugh

Bless, did your mummy help you with that comment?
I tend to agree with him. That's beyond subtle. It's beige.

Dracoro

8,681 posts

245 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Go froward a year and it will be spot the golf WITHOUT a broken lower grill light biggrin They just look prone to stones etc. hitting and smashing them.

OK in a car with just one, as you replace it, with this you would replace one and still have another 9 that will get smashed at any time. With potholes/stones on the ground in this country, it will happen. I am, of course, assuming that it is 10 lights, could be just the 2 with the honeycomb grill making it look like 10....

Rear OK. Side OK, front doesn't look right and not good wheels.

One thing that the MK8 has got better with, is the interior. The MK7 inside is nice but feels a little dated.

Edited by Dracoro on Thursday 27th February 00:03

LM240

4,658 posts

218 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Vickers_VC10 said:
Alucidnation said:
Dombilano said:
My word, that's a dull looking car
laugh

Bless, did your mummy help you with that comment?
I tend to agree with him. That's beyond subtle. It's beige.
Likewise. Take GTI badge off and that could be from anywhere in the range.

GTI’s aren’t shouty hot hatches, but that really is on the bland side of subtle.

Wheels are horrible. Hopefully they’d be a nicer option available.

The seats look nice though.

Spiderrich

26 posts

87 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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I can’t believe they signed off that design...I think the previous model is so much neater and ‘right’. Those front headlights are awful and the whole thing is just fussy for the sake of it and awkward looking. Maybe VW are subconsciously trying to usher customers to the ID range instead?

Edited by Spiderrich on Thursday 27th February 00:09

Spiderrich

26 posts

87 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Ps the Renault Megane RS just called, wants it’s front fog lights back...

drpep

1,758 posts

168 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Hmmm, bit dull. They've also removed one of the best things about front wheel drive cars - a proper handbrake to pull cheeky corner skids around tight corners. Presumably chassis is well sorted. It does look rather bland compared to the subtly handsome Mk7.

Meridius

1,608 posts

152 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Probably great underneath, nice interior, quick and capable, as are most of the Golf GTIs

But on the outside this is kind of fat and dopey looking compared with current mk7, not good.

NGK210

2,912 posts

145 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Sasanachs! What's happened to the tartan seats?? confused

Everything that was so right about the Mk7 GTI is so wrong with the Mk8: the front-end is a dog's dinner, the rear looks like a fubar'd Mk6 and the wheels resemble a drunk's sketch of the London 2012 logo.

And the GTI's steering wheel - which was lovely on the Mk6 and 7 GTIs - looks so uninspiring, and accentuates just how insipid and bleak is the restyled VW logo.

The Mk4 Leon Cupra looks infinitely more appealing, and cooler. And has 300bhp. And will probably be cheaper and / or much better value.

wolfie28

694 posts

144 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Good lord!! Granddad's slippers look sportier than that GTI

Haltamer

2,455 posts

80 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Could've at least given it some extra red bits...

redroadster

1,737 posts

232 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Not everyone wants a blingy car ,this fits the bill .

Leins

9,461 posts

148 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Haltamer said:
Could've at least given it some extra red bits...
Looking at this pic it probably still has them, just that a launch colour of red for the GTi may not be the best to highlight that


davyvee

295 posts

135 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Those wheels vomit

NGK210

2,912 posts

145 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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redroadster said:
Not everyone wants a blingy car ,this fits the bill .
Indeed, bling is not good. But that’s the problem, this GTI’s front-end is too bling. And the headlights are upside down.

simonwedge

743 posts

180 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Agree with general comments above, seems like a backwards step styling wise and those wheels in particular aren't doing it for me.

The text also says that the brakes that used to come as part of the Performance Pack are now standard on the GTI - well the front calipers shown in the pictures are the (old) standard ones - not the Performance Pack ones?

TheBALDpuma

5,842 posts

168 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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I actually don't hate the styling. At the moment I do prefer the mk7.5 but that's often the case, I think give it a few months and it will be a grower.

3 styling things I definitely don't like though...

1. Those wheels! Just awful.
2. The 10 separate front figs
3. The central GTI badge right under the VW logo on the boot looks rubbish

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Dull as ditchwater white goods. Interests me in the same way my toaster does.