TUI - The hidden costs of moving

TUI - The hidden costs of moving

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Sir Bagalot

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6,479 posts

181 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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We have a holiday booked with FirstChoice. It's for June.

The policy is we can move it to another time at no cost, we have until the end of May to do this.

Simple I thought. Just defer for a year. Not so. You see when we booked it in January we had an online discount, a discount and a promotional discount. Unsurprisingly none of these discounts are available for the new date and it adds over £400 to the trip.

Anyone have any luck getting the discounts moved to the new date?

Dan_1981

17,389 posts

199 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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Yup. We're due to travel 10th May

I did look at moving but we saw exactly the same issue, discounts no longer apply and the same holiday costs about £500 extra.

I've stopped looking, no intention to move it anymore - once they tell me I can't travel and the trip is cancelled I'll take the refund and put it back in the bank.

I'll then book again once this is all over - i'm assuming there'll be lots of discounts available all of a sudden again and maybe even drastically reduced prices as no one fancies travelling overseas.


westtra

1,534 posts

201 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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Good luck getting your refund quickly. 21 days since our holiday was cancelled and still waiting for the refund that was promised to be processed on the 17th march.

normalbloke

7,450 posts

219 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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Dan_1981 said:
Yup. We're due to travel 10th May

I did look at moving but we saw exactly the same issue, discounts no longer apply and the same holiday costs about £500 extra.

I've stopped looking, no intention to move it anymore - once they tell me I can't travel and the trip is cancelled I'll take the refund and put it back in the bank.

I'll then book again once this is all over - i'm assuming there'll be lots of discounts available all of a sudden again and maybe even drastically reduced prices as no one fancies travelling overseas.
I suspect with many people trying to do this, you may all end up talking to the administrators...

Dan_1981

17,389 posts

199 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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normalbloke said:
Dan_1981 said:
Yup. We're due to travel 10th May

I did look at moving but we saw exactly the same issue, discounts no longer apply and the same holiday costs about £500 extra.

I've stopped looking, no intention to move it anymore - once they tell me I can't travel and the trip is cancelled I'll take the refund and put it back in the bank.

I'll then book again once this is all over - i'm assuming there'll be lots of discounts available all of a sudden again and maybe even drastically reduced prices as no one fancies travelling overseas.
I suspect with many people trying to do this, you may all end up talking to the administrators...
Booked via credit card so I assume I have some safety in the case of that happening?

Silverage

2,034 posts

130 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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If Tui have been bailed out by the German govt to the tune of €1bn, then they probably won’t go pop anytime soon. It seems like it was a condition of the bailout that they furlough all and sundry of the staff, so now there is just a skeleton crew trying to sort out all of these rebookings and refunds. I can’t imagine there is much new business coming in, so it’s a question of how far that billion euro goes in unpicking all the business that was arranged but not fulfilled before all this blew up.

Chipper

1,314 posts

217 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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Dan_1981 said:
Yup. We're due to travel 10th May

I did look at moving but we saw exactly the same issue, discounts no longer apply and the same holiday costs about £500 extra.

I've stopped looking, no intention to move it anymore - once they tell me I can't travel and the trip is cancelled I'll take the refund and put it back in the bank.

I'll then book again once this is all over - i'm assuming there'll be lots of discounts available all of a sudden again and maybe even drastically reduced prices as no one fancies travelling overseas.
You won’t get a refund as I’ve been waiting for £5300 to be returned for over 2 weeks now . They have vanished and are now trying to push the government to let them retain the money. Even ABTA are trying to get the government to let them keep the money until June !!!

It’s unbelievable if our government lets them do this. There will be people losing their jobs and need the cash back and this Organisation want us to hold up their business model while people struggle to pay for day to day living.

Tui are finished with me .




ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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It's odd that they've inflated prices for next year, particuarly for those rescheduling. They have millions of pounds of our money, they actively encourage moving bookings instead of cancelling, but they offer no incentive to do so.

If the issue is going to be cash flow (and it will be), surely they should be doing everything they can to get as many people to reschedule (even with a much smaller profit margin) rather than everyone asking for their money back. Would it not be better for the business that way round?

They have £2k of ours, I wouldn't be against rescheduling to next summer if there was zero penalty to doing so. As it is, you can almost guarentee that once things do get under way again, they will be offering massive discounts to encourage people to book.

Package holidays are supposed to be the 'safe' option, but of everything we have (had) booked it's been by far the most challenging to resolve and potentially the only one we could lose money on (or at the very least have the cash tied up for a very long time).

Edited by ukaskew on Wednesday 8th April 11:13

Chipper

1,314 posts

217 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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ukaskew said:
It's odd that they've inflated prices for next year, particuarly for those rescheduling. They have millions of pounds of our money, they actively encourage moving bookings instead of cancelling, but they offer no incentive to do so.

If the issue is going to be cash flow (and it will be), surely they should be doing everything they can to get as many people to reschedule (even with a much smaller profit margin) rather than everyone asking for their money back. Would it not be better for the business that way round?

They have £2k of ours, I wouldn't be against rescheduling to next summer if there was zero penalty to doing so. As it is, you can almost guarentee that once things do get under way again, they will be offering massive discounts to encourage people to book.

Package holidays are supposed to be the 'safe' option, but of everything we have (had) booked it's been by far the most challenging to resolve and potentially the only one we could lose money on (or at the very least have the cash tied up for a very long time).

Edited by ukaskew on Wednesday 8th April 11:13
I use to think ABTA provided security but the fact they are trying to push with Tui to hold our money shows there is now no security with the holiday industry. I have a deposit down with a holiday with Virgin for December but what security do I have now with these bunch of clowns after this ??? Anybody in the future putting money downs for a holiday with these firms have no guarantee whatsoever when the ABTA so called protective guarantee actively pushing for our government to take our money to prop up their industry.

I’m starting to think they actually have no idea of the actual damage they are causing even if they survive this pandemic .

westtra

1,534 posts

201 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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If they hold and do not return the money can we claim via credit card/insurance.

Sir Bagalot

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6,479 posts

181 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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westtra said:
If they hold and do not return the money can we claim via credit card/insurance.
I'm not so sure you can claim it on insurance as it's TUI who should be refunding. I dare say you'll have to go via CC or small claims court.

I used my debit cardrolleyes but I can do a chargeback on that if need be.

Sir Bagalot

Original Poster:

6,479 posts

181 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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Well, I'm sitting tight now. They've now extended refunds to mid May. If they extend by another month I'll get my refund.

westtra

1,534 posts

201 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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Sir Bagalot said:
I'm not so sure you can claim it on insurance as it's TUI who should be refunding. I dare say you'll have to go via CC or small claims court.

I used my debit cardrolleyes but I can do a chargeback on that if need be.
It will be 4 weeks on Tuesday which I think is long enough for them to pull there finger out and give me the refund I was promised. So will be calling credit card company to get back the 6k they owe us.

Dan_1981

17,389 posts

199 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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Based on yesterdays announcement ours has now been cancelled and we've had an email to that effect - not specific for us but generic.

Will now await contact rather than chasing as it's May10th before we were due to travel.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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Dan_1981 said:
Based on yesterdays announcement ours has now been cancelled and we've had an email to that effect - not specific for us but generic.

Will now await contact rather than chasing as it's May10th before we were due to travel.
We were flying this weekend and haven't had a call yet, so I wouldn't hold your breath for at least a month!

Chipper

1,314 posts

217 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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i can’t see how anybody could book with these companies again after this. They discourage you to pay for the holiday by credit card by using excessive fees. I am now stuck in limbo as we paid by BACS and the only thing 8 can do is write to my MP

Which have a report on it now but basically until our government steps in and says they must refund we are now proving up their industry

Butter Face

30,298 posts

160 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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I’m 3 weeks awaiting a refund now too. Hopefully they pull their fingers out as it’s becoming a bit silly now!

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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ABTA, by their very nature are going to side with the travel company.

Ultimately though, any money you paid in is bonded. You will get it back but it might take time. They are in breach of contract if they cancel and don't refund. I wouldn't think it would take many court cases before they start refunding.

It's just going to be a slow process.

ParanoidAndroid

1,359 posts

283 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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westtra said:
Sir Bagalot said:
I'm not so sure you can claim it on insurance as it's TUI who should be refunding. I dare say you'll have to go via CC or small claims court.

I used my debit cardrolleyes but I can do a chargeback on that if need be.
It will be 4 weeks on Tuesday which I think is long enough for them to pull there finger out and give me the refund I was promised. So will be calling credit card company to get back the 6k they owe us.
Let me know how you get on. It will also be 4 weeks on Thursday for us. I’m not holding out much hope of seeing the refund anytime soon.

Edited by ParanoidAndroid on Saturday 11th April 13:29

Butter Face

30,298 posts

160 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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ParanoidAndroid said:
westtra said:
Sir Bagalot said:
I'm not so sure you can claim it on insurance as it's TUI who should be refunding. I dare say you'll have to go via CC or small claims court.

I used my debit cardrolleyes but I can do a chargeback on that if need be.
It will be 4 weeks on Tuesday which I think is long enough for them to pull there finger out and give me the refund I was promised. So will be calling credit card company to get back the 6k they owe us.
Let me know how you get on. It will also be 4 weeks on Thursday for us. I’m not holding out much hope of seeing the refund anytime soon.

Edited by ParanoidAndroid on Saturday 11th April 13:29
Mine is 4 weeks this Thursday too. I’ve called a couple of times and they’ve been very apologetic and that they’re working flat out..... 4 weeks is a long time though!