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Looks like the test data from people returning from Amber countries is pretty conclusive, demonstrating there is no need for quarantine or testing whether you’ve had a vaccine or not. What a surprise.
Wonder what convoluted scheme will they come up with next to prevent the masses from travelling?
Wonder what convoluted scheme will they come up with next to prevent the masses from travelling?
Phil. said:
Looks like the test data from people returning from Amber countries is pretty conclusive, demonstrating there is no need for quarantine or testing whether you’ve had a vaccine or not. What a surprise.
Wonder what convoluted scheme will they come up with next to prevent the masses from travelling?
Have you got a link for this? I would be interested to have a look Wonder what convoluted scheme will they come up with next to prevent the masses from travelling?
What's the latest point you can book all the required tests? (day 2, day 8 and day 5)
I'm travelling to France on the 17th and I'm kind of hoping the Gov drop the stupid test upon return requirements for those that are fully vaccinated. I don't really want to go buying all the tests now (family of four), only to find out the requirement is lifted in a few weeks... maybe even whilst we are away...
I'm travelling to France on the 17th and I'm kind of hoping the Gov drop the stupid test upon return requirements for those that are fully vaccinated. I don't really want to go buying all the tests now (family of four), only to find out the requirement is lifted in a few weeks... maybe even whilst we are away...
DoubleSix said:
What's the latest point you can book all the required tests? (day 2, day 8 and day 5)
I'm travelling to France on the 17th and I'm kind of hoping the Gov drop the stupid test upon return requirements for those that are fully vaccinated. I don't really want to go buying all the tests now (family of four), only to find out the requirement is lifted in a few weeks... maybe even whilst we are away...
We are in a similar position - due to fly to Portugal on 7th. Ryanair constantly sending us emails offering their amber testing package but like you don’t want to pay for something we may not need so interested to hear what anyone has to say. Supposed to be some sort of travel update on Thursday?I'm travelling to France on the 17th and I'm kind of hoping the Gov drop the stupid test upon return requirements for those that are fully vaccinated. I don't really want to go buying all the tests now (family of four), only to find out the requirement is lifted in a few weeks... maybe even whilst we are away...
Boxster5 said:
We are in a similar position - due to fly to Portugal on 7th. Ryanair constantly sending us emails offering their amber testing package but like you don’t want to pay for something we may not need so interested to hear what anyone has to say. Supposed to be some sort of travel update on Thursday?
We're due to fly to Ibiza on July 26th, I get the daily Ryanair testing package emails. Not doing anything until get more details on what tests are needed, we've both been double jabbed.You don’t need to book the day 2 & 8 tests until you compete the passenger locator form for your return... so you could leave them until the penultimate day of your holiday and then book and pay for them on line.
Ive just sorted my wife’s out for here return to the Uk at the weekend - using the company that Ryanair are linked with as they seem to be reasonably priced. But if there had been any likelihood of the rules changing before her left, I’d have left it until Friday before paying for them.
Ive just sorted my wife’s out for here return to the Uk at the weekend - using the company that Ryanair are linked with as they seem to be reasonably priced. But if there had been any likelihood of the rules changing before her left, I’d have left it until Friday before paying for them.
DoubleSix said:
What's the latest point you can book all the required tests? (day 2, day 8 and day 5)
I'm travelling to France on the 17th and I'm kind of hoping the Gov drop the stupid test upon return requirements for those that are fully vaccinated. I don't really want to go buying all the tests now (family of four), only to find out the requirement is lifted in a few weeks... maybe even whilst we are away...
You can book them any time up until you check in for your return flight. So you could do it literally at the airport as you are flying home. I'm travelling to France on the 17th and I'm kind of hoping the Gov drop the stupid test upon return requirements for those that are fully vaccinated. I don't really want to go buying all the tests now (family of four), only to find out the requirement is lifted in a few weeks... maybe even whilst we are away...
interstellar said:
Phil. said:
Looks like the test data from people returning from Amber countries is pretty conclusive, demonstrating there is no need for quarantine or testing whether you’ve had a vaccine or not. What a surprise.
Wonder what convoluted scheme will they come up with next to prevent the masses from travelling?
Have you got a link for this? I would be interested to have a look Wonder what convoluted scheme will they come up with next to prevent the masses from travelling?
Here’s one link from earlier:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9706875/F...
Phil. said:
interstellar said:
Phil. said:
Looks like the test data from people returning from Amber countries is pretty conclusive, demonstrating there is no need for quarantine or testing whether you’ve had a vaccine or not. What a surprise.
Wonder what convoluted scheme will they come up with next to prevent the masses from travelling?
Have you got a link for this? I would be interested to have a look Wonder what convoluted scheme will they come up with next to prevent the masses from travelling?
Here’s one link from earlier:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9706875/F...
Phil. said:
interstellar said:
Phil. said:
Looks like the test data from people returning from Amber countries is pretty conclusive, demonstrating there is no need for quarantine or testing whether you’ve had a vaccine or not. What a surprise.
Wonder what convoluted scheme will they come up with next to prevent the masses from travelling?
Have you got a link for this? I would be interested to have a look Wonder what convoluted scheme will they come up with next to prevent the masses from travelling?
Here’s one link from earlier:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9706875/F...
Heads up, looks like Switzerland opening up to double vaccinated from next Monday, no quarantine.
Living and working here with family in the U.K., this is very much needed.
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/switzerland-...
Living and working here with family in the U.K., this is very much needed.
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/switzerland-...
Well... I'm off to France on Wednesday morning. It's really proven to be a case of pig headedness over sense.
Frankly it's been on/off/on/off since we first booked in Dec 2019 to go in June 2020, if someone asked me today if I wanted to go Wednesday, there's no way I'd say yes, it's only the fact it's been such a battle to get here and I'm too stupid to quit, I feel like Alec Guinness "what have I done?"
So I leave home Weds at 01:30, I won't arrive until about 20:00, we were supposed to be flying to Geneva, but obviously Switzerland is still 'closed' there was a healthy debate whether we could leave via the French exit, but no one could really say if you could or couldn't, the flight lands on the same runway, but depending where they park the plane, depends on whether you're in France or Switzerland. Anyway, Easyjet made it easier by cancelling the flights, you'd think you'd get a refund if THEY cancel, but no... because we used a voucher from the flights they cancelled last year, you can't...
So it's the Ferry, and an 8 hour+ drive down to the Alps. Tests before we go, tests when we're there, tests when we get home. The tests cost more than the ferry and frankly as great as Mountain Biking in the Alps is, it ain't worth £150 a day or whatever it worked out as, I'm only there 5 nights.
So I return late Monday, I hoping, without much cause to really that they review the rules to match the EU and I won't have to isolate due to my 'fully vaccinated' status, if not, I'll be in the house until Sunday morning, who knows they might even make France 'green' I guess we'll find out on Thursday... I doubt it. Ironically, if they do, we might have to wait around in Calais for a few hours so we arrive back in the UK on the 29th and not the 28th because I don't think the rules are relaxed retrospectively. Who really knows.
Some people who are traveling for the same event aren't planning to complete a PLF, supposedly 'Border Force' are only able to check 1 in 10, and if you don't they'll give you a chance to complete one before entering. I guess if you don't fill it in, they won't know you've been. Sounds like a way to get a fine to me.
Frankly it's been on/off/on/off since we first booked in Dec 2019 to go in June 2020, if someone asked me today if I wanted to go Wednesday, there's no way I'd say yes, it's only the fact it's been such a battle to get here and I'm too stupid to quit, I feel like Alec Guinness "what have I done?"
So I leave home Weds at 01:30, I won't arrive until about 20:00, we were supposed to be flying to Geneva, but obviously Switzerland is still 'closed' there was a healthy debate whether we could leave via the French exit, but no one could really say if you could or couldn't, the flight lands on the same runway, but depending where they park the plane, depends on whether you're in France or Switzerland. Anyway, Easyjet made it easier by cancelling the flights, you'd think you'd get a refund if THEY cancel, but no... because we used a voucher from the flights they cancelled last year, you can't...
So it's the Ferry, and an 8 hour+ drive down to the Alps. Tests before we go, tests when we're there, tests when we get home. The tests cost more than the ferry and frankly as great as Mountain Biking in the Alps is, it ain't worth £150 a day or whatever it worked out as, I'm only there 5 nights.
So I return late Monday, I hoping, without much cause to really that they review the rules to match the EU and I won't have to isolate due to my 'fully vaccinated' status, if not, I'll be in the house until Sunday morning, who knows they might even make France 'green' I guess we'll find out on Thursday... I doubt it. Ironically, if they do, we might have to wait around in Calais for a few hours so we arrive back in the UK on the 29th and not the 28th because I don't think the rules are relaxed retrospectively. Who really knows.
Some people who are traveling for the same event aren't planning to complete a PLF, supposedly 'Border Force' are only able to check 1 in 10, and if you don't they'll give you a chance to complete one before entering. I guess if you don't fill it in, they won't know you've been. Sounds like a way to get a fine to me.
Oh, and FYI.
There are no facts to back this up or anything like that, just 'chat' from people we know in Europe who have Air BnBs etc.
If anyone has a holiday booked for August, things may not being going the 'right way' if England lifts all restrictions in July, their will inevitably be a huge increase in cases whilst the virus does the rounds of (hopefully) vaccinated people. It's the inevitable way out of the pandemic, but for the 6 weeks or so if this, hopefully mostly non-lethal 3rd wave we're not going to be exactly wonderful guests to other countries. They're expecting a rapid closure of borders.
There are no facts to back this up or anything like that, just 'chat' from people we know in Europe who have Air BnBs etc.
If anyone has a holiday booked for August, things may not being going the 'right way' if England lifts all restrictions in July, their will inevitably be a huge increase in cases whilst the virus does the rounds of (hopefully) vaccinated people. It's the inevitable way out of the pandemic, but for the 6 weeks or so if this, hopefully mostly non-lethal 3rd wave we're not going to be exactly wonderful guests to other countries. They're expecting a rapid closure of borders.
P-Jay said:
Oh, and FYI.
There are no facts to back this up or anything like that, just 'chat' from people we know in Europe who have Air BnBs etc.
If anyone has a holiday booked for August, things may not being going the 'right way' if England lifts all restrictions in July, their will inevitably be a huge increase in cases whilst the virus does the rounds of (hopefully) vaccinated people. It's the inevitable way out of the pandemic, but for the 6 weeks or so if this, hopefully mostly non-lethal 3rd wave we're not going to be exactly wonderful guests to other countries. They're expecting a rapid closure of borders.
If that’s the case I think I’ll leave the UK this summer and not come back! There are no facts to back this up or anything like that, just 'chat' from people we know in Europe who have Air BnBs etc.
If anyone has a holiday booked for August, things may not being going the 'right way' if England lifts all restrictions in July, their will inevitably be a huge increase in cases whilst the virus does the rounds of (hopefully) vaccinated people. It's the inevitable way out of the pandemic, but for the 6 weeks or so if this, hopefully mostly non-lethal 3rd wave we're not going to be exactly wonderful guests to other countries. They're expecting a rapid closure of borders.
Ok, let me clear a few things up. I've travelled quite a bit over the last couple of weeks / months.
Re. Checking of PLFs, yes they check every single one, just not with a great deal of scrutiny. I've been through stating exemption to quarantine based on work reasons and/or regular work outside of the UK, on occasion not even booking a test package (I would have been in the UK less than 2 days). Never questioned in any detail at all, but they do expect you to have one filled out.
LFT tests are fine for coming back into the UK, don't waste your money on PCR testing.
A couple of countries have now adopted the double vaccinate = no quarantine approach, including France and Switzerland, expect Germany and Italy to follow in short order. Once the government allows it in the UK then visits to Spain, Portugal etc will all be on the cards. At the moment things change so quickly (UK was put on the Swiss s
t list at the end of May and is now due to open up for double vaccinated people on June 28th).
Once you're in Schengen zone its very very easy to move about, as long as you remember to fill out the respective PLFs for the countries you're going to and check the respective entry requirements, checks are ad-hoc at best.
Any questions, feel free to ask as I keep a pretty close eye on it.
On another note, I had a fantastic weekend of cycling and hiking last weekend in the Swiss Alps. I'll stick a couple of pictures up later.
Re. Checking of PLFs, yes they check every single one, just not with a great deal of scrutiny. I've been through stating exemption to quarantine based on work reasons and/or regular work outside of the UK, on occasion not even booking a test package (I would have been in the UK less than 2 days). Never questioned in any detail at all, but they do expect you to have one filled out.
LFT tests are fine for coming back into the UK, don't waste your money on PCR testing.
A couple of countries have now adopted the double vaccinate = no quarantine approach, including France and Switzerland, expect Germany and Italy to follow in short order. Once the government allows it in the UK then visits to Spain, Portugal etc will all be on the cards. At the moment things change so quickly (UK was put on the Swiss s
t list at the end of May and is now due to open up for double vaccinated people on June 28th). Once you're in Schengen zone its very very easy to move about, as long as you remember to fill out the respective PLFs for the countries you're going to and check the respective entry requirements, checks are ad-hoc at best.
Any questions, feel free to ask as I keep a pretty close eye on it.
On another note, I had a fantastic weekend of cycling and hiking last weekend in the Swiss Alps. I'll stick a couple of pictures up later.
P-Jay said:
If anyone has a holiday booked for August, things may not being going the 'right way' if England lifts all restrictions in July, their will inevitably be a huge increase in cases whilst the virus does the rounds of (hopefully) vaccinated people. It's the inevitable way out of the pandemic, but for the 6 weeks or so if this, hopefully mostly non-lethal 3rd wave we're not going to be exactly wonderful guests to other countries. They're expecting a rapid closure of borders.
We’ve been fully open in Spain for quite a while now and cases haven’t significantly increased. The Uk case surge shows no sign of turning in to hoapitalisations or deaths.... which really shouldn’t be a surprise given the vaccination progress.
Chris Stott said:
P-Jay said:
If anyone has a holiday booked for August, things may not being going the 'right way' if England lifts all restrictions in July, their will inevitably be a huge increase in cases whilst the virus does the rounds of (hopefully) vaccinated people. It's the inevitable way out of the pandemic, but for the 6 weeks or so if this, hopefully mostly non-lethal 3rd wave we're not going to be exactly wonderful guests to other countries. They're expecting a rapid closure of borders.
We’ve been fully open in Spain for quite a while now and cases haven’t significantly increased. The Uk case surge shows no sign of turning in to hoapitalisations or deaths.... which really shouldn’t be a surprise given the vaccination progress.
Except if you’re the British government
Amateurish said:
Border force at Calais do check every single PLF and people who haven't completed them are the reason for the long delays.
The French sector of Geneva airport is currently closed.
I think the Home Office database is now linked the the PLF database because we didn’t need to show any paperwork last week returning to the UK and when offered the paperwork he said he could see all our forms on his system. The French sector of Geneva airport is currently closed.
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