Throwing in the Towel
Discussion
Greenmantle said:
So for 2021 I'm just going to do last minute things. Scorching hot day - jump in the car and hit the beach!
That's what we're doing. Woolacombe on Bank Holiday Monday. When we realised it was nice on the Tuesday as well we headed to Croyde.
We felt quite bad as 14yo and 11yo couldn't remember going to either before. So perhaps it's time to remind ourselves of what's on the doorstep anyway.
It helps that we did a fortnight in Florida in August '19 I think. Memories to get us through to next year!
bristolracer said:
I'm not overly hopeful about 2022
the days of a £500 holiday to a Greek island will be a distant memory.
Blimey, I remember a last minute early June trip to Parga with Olympic holidays in 2006 for £120, one of my favourite ever holidays..... I can't imagine in the slightest we'll see the likes of that again. the days of a £500 holiday to a Greek island will be a distant memory.
prand said:
ATG said:
Half term next week. Our exotic destinations? One night in Hay on Wye and a trip to Builth Wells. Christ on a bicycle.
We've got a night in Newtown, mid Wales, where my wife is picking up a z3 then off for a few days camping on the beach at Newgale. I think my Mrs is going to have all the fun discovering all those lovely welsh driving roads while I'm in the A6 with a big roof box! At least the weather doesn't look "too" bad compared to the rubbish we've been having recently.
Riley Blue said:
ATG said:
Half term next week. Our exotic destinations? One night in Hay on Wye and a trip to Builth Wells. Christ on a bicycle.
You never know...https://www.cyclemuseum.org.uk
It must be a sign!Quite tragically (ish) wife and son came down with colds so we had to abandon our great mid-Welsh half term adventure. After they had recovered, for the second half of the week we stuck the family tent up in the garden. So I didn't even get to the bicycle museum. And I would have been driving straight past it to get from Builth Wells to here.
ATG said:
That's a tremendous photo! Yes, it's a great area. We moved here about 6 years ago from west London. Absolutely no regrets.
How's the Z3 been?
How's the Z3 been?
Aah, a good move, when we came off a busy M42, crossed the M5, and drove around Ludlow, through the Shropshire hills and into Wales it felt like entering a different world. Though I don't think I'm ready yet to uproot myself from the South East quite yet....
The Z3 is pretty good, we did about 300 miles last week in it (though I was mostly driving the A6 and tagging along behind). It's in really good condition for a 20yr old car, only thing that needed sorting was to polish the headlight lenses which took about 20 minutes to sort at home. It's got lovely wide tyres at the rear and an LSD that helps in put the power down coming out of corners. It does handle very well though I can sense some looseness which may be old suspension parts and bushes, but it may well just be the usual convertible shakiness.
The 3.0 litre m54 engine in such a small car is something, shame it's not got 6 gears as motorway speeds in 5th the engine sits at nearly 3000rpm and doesn't help fuel consumption. But all in all, you certainly get a lot for your money, and made a routine camping holiday pretty special!
Two cars for the holiday (we both like black!)
[url]Raining in Newgale
|https://thumbsnap.com/FQzP162A[/url]Back home, half way through the job of polishing headlights
Edited by prand on Friday 11th June 09:47
raceboy said:
Mars said:
MitchT said:
Won't be going anywhere abroad until there's zero risk of the rules changing while I'm away and then having to quarantine in a hotel on returning at a cost of £1750PP for ten days! My last all inclusive holiday cost £550PP!! I'm certainly not in a position to stand almost £2k extra, unexpectedly, because some privileged cockwombles who have no concept of the economic reality of ordinary folk keep moving the goal posts.
This. 
Doesn't make any sense to pay more for covid tests than the flights.
I'd be on a plane tomorrow if we went back to 2019 conditions, I'd happily sit in a plane with no mask and no tests but while it's like it is we'll stay at home, not even interested in a UK 'holiday' we'll probably do some day trips, and fingers crossed the world gets back to some sort of old school normality by 2023 as we are planning a few biggies for that year.
Edited by raceboy on Monday 24th May 16:39
I will be travelling again in 2022 - in 2019 we went to the US, Peru and Italy - we love foreign travel. But not until it's back to normal. And it's blindingly obvious that that is not going to happen this summer.
Wiltshire Lad said:
Couldn't agree more - Back in Feb I posted on the 2021 Holidays tread that no one was going anywhere easily over the summer and that the a country's status could change in days - I was obviously accused of being a pessimist and of being ridiculous and informed that all would be back to normal by the summer.. ...Well guess what - I was right - and while I subsequently booked 2 separate week holidays in June / July in Snowdonia / Lakes at a great price (February had a lot of offers) - the very same posters who happily criticized me are still on the same thread raging about how they can't travel abroad and using logic to explain why they should..they seem unable to understand that the government uses a very different 'logic' to them. I have a work colleague currently in Portugal - he couldn't get a flight back in time so now has to isolate at home for 10 days - and the nature of his job means he has to take it as holiday - he was convinced that a country's status wouldn't change overnight..
I will be travelling again in 2022 - in 2019 we went to the US, Peru and Italy - we love foreign travel. But not until it's back to normal. And it's blindingly obvious that that is not going to happen this summer.
I thought you were wrong then, and I still think you are wrong now plus we are still several weeks away from the normal English summer getaway season.I will be travelling again in 2022 - in 2019 we went to the US, Peru and Italy - we love foreign travel. But not until it's back to normal. And it's blindingly obvious that that is not going to happen this summer.
The rules with Portugal didn't change overnight, there were several days grace to get back - not all flights were full coming back, even the last flight back (which was a BA flight into BHX as I understand) wasn't full and still had business class seats for sale / available - in reality your colleague didn't want to / couldn't afford to pay that - thats a very different scenario.
Theres several countries that are easy to get to/into and testing prices are coming down for return - overseas travel is certainly not the chore you're choosing to make it out to be.
alorotom said:
Wiltshire Lad said:
Couldn't agree more - Back in Feb I posted on the 2021 Holidays tread that no one was going anywhere easily over the summer and that the a country's status could change in days - I was obviously accused of being a pessimist and of being ridiculous and informed that all would be back to normal by the summer.. ...Well guess what - I was right - and while I subsequently booked 2 separate week holidays in June / July in Snowdonia / Lakes at a great price (February had a lot of offers) - the very same posters who happily criticized me are still on the same thread raging about how they can't travel abroad and using logic to explain why they should..they seem unable to understand that the government uses a very different 'logic' to them. I have a work colleague currently in Portugal - he couldn't get a flight back in time so now has to isolate at home for 10 days - and the nature of his job means he has to take it as holiday - he was convinced that a country's status wouldn't change overnight..
I will be travelling again in 2022 - in 2019 we went to the US, Peru and Italy - we love foreign travel. But not until it's back to normal. And it's blindingly obvious that that is not going to happen this summer.
I thought you were wrong then, and I still think you are wrong now plus we are still several weeks away from the normal English summer getaway season.I will be travelling again in 2022 - in 2019 we went to the US, Peru and Italy - we love foreign travel. But not until it's back to normal. And it's blindingly obvious that that is not going to happen this summer.
The rules with Portugal didn't change overnight, there were several days grace to get back - not all flights were full coming back, even the last flight back (which was a BA flight into BHX as I understand) wasn't full and still had business class seats for sale / available - in reality your colleague didn't want to / couldn't afford to pay that - thats a very different scenario.
Theres several countries that are easy to get to/into and testing prices are coming down for return - overseas travel is certainly not the chore you're choosing to make it out to be.
7 days notice to get back is great if you are a single person or couple on great salaries and don't mind the extra hit/bill on your holiday spend.
For a family though and/or those on 20somethingk with bills etc to pay how do you justify that 'I owe myself a foreign holiday this year' when you could be hit with an extra 300-2000£ and a shortened holiday?
I wouldn't.
For a family though and/or those on 20somethingk with bills etc to pay how do you justify that 'I owe myself a foreign holiday this year' when you could be hit with an extra 300-2000£ and a shortened holiday?
I wouldn't.
Hugo Stiglitz said:
7 days notice to get back is great if you are a single person or couple on great salaries and don't mind the extra hit/bill on your holiday spend.
For a family though and/or those on 20somethingk with bills etc to pay how do you justify that 'I owe myself a foreign holiday this year' when you could be hit with an extra 300-2000£ and a shortened holiday?
I wouldn't.
It must be the classic Pistonheads 'powerfully built company director' stereotype.....not sure the 'don't worry we can always fly back business class at short notice if we have to' approach is much reassurance to the average family....For a family though and/or those on 20somethingk with bills etc to pay how do you justify that 'I owe myself a foreign holiday this year' when you could be hit with an extra 300-2000£ and a shortened holiday?
I wouldn't.
I've just thrown in the towel on our annual French trip.
We were set for two weeks late July near Biarritz, the same as last year, but the ongoing quarantine issues both here and in France, plus the more than likely need to get tested when travelling both ways have left us no option other that to cut our losses and move it all to 2022.
It's not the thought of Covid that's stopping us going, its the constant threat of travel requirement changes at the drop of a hat.
Fingers crossed for 2022.
We were set for two weeks late July near Biarritz, the same as last year, but the ongoing quarantine issues both here and in France, plus the more than likely need to get tested when travelling both ways have left us no option other that to cut our losses and move it all to 2022.
It's not the thought of Covid that's stopping us going, its the constant threat of travel requirement changes at the drop of a hat.
Fingers crossed for 2022.
We're due to go to Menorca as a big family at the back end of July, carried over from last summer. Personally I'd rather the gov just red list the country so it's taken out of our hands. As it stands Jet2 say they're flying, and so if we don't go there's no refund, we'll be littered with testing requirements, and our holiday insurance have a clause that allows them to void cover in amber countries at any time.
Personally I'd rather sack it off this year, regardless of what money we'll lose, as it doesn't like it will be an enjoyable experience, but other members of the family are very keen to go.
Personally I'd rather sack it off this year, regardless of what money we'll lose, as it doesn't like it will be an enjoyable experience, but other members of the family are very keen to go.
Wiltshire Lad said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
7 days notice to get back is great if you are a single person or couple on great salaries and don't mind the extra hit/bill on your holiday spend.
For a family though and/or those on 20somethingk with bills etc to pay how do you justify that 'I owe myself a foreign holiday this year' when you could be hit with an extra 300-2000£ and a shortened holiday?
I wouldn't.
It must be the classic Pistonheads 'powerfully built company director' stereotype.....not sure the 'don't worry we can always fly back business class at short notice if we have to' approach is much reassurance to the average family....For a family though and/or those on 20somethingk with bills etc to pay how do you justify that 'I owe myself a foreign holiday this year' when you could be hit with an extra 300-2000£ and a shortened holiday?
I wouldn't.
I research my accommodation, book well in advance, looking forward to it but also to keep it stress free.
I'm so relaxed I've not even bothered to check how dog passports work these days.
Ahmmm oot for the time being.
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