Virgin upper - bidding for it

Virgin upper - bidding for it

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Louis Balfour

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26,271 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Some of us are off to NYC and, when checking our seats earlier, Virgin offered me the opportunity to upgrade to Upper Class for £3500.

I ummed and ahhed for a bit and thought, "hey, what the heck, it's only £3500". Clicking through on the offer, it turns out that it's £3500... per person. The sum of this exceeds the current cost of flights, the hotel cost and a good chunk of spending money. I cannot justify it.

There is the option however to bid for a seat. Has anyone done this?

I realise that bidding may consign me to the "A bit Council" thread, but I am not proud.



djc206

12,341 posts

125 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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It’s common with a lot of airlines. Never bid the absolute minimum, loads will do that. Never bid the next increment up, loads of people will do that thinking that everyone will have bid the minimum, bid the next increment up.

Louis Balfour

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26,271 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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djc206 said:
It’s common with a lot of airlines. Never bid the absolute minimum, loads will do that. Never bid the next increment up, loads of people will do that thinking that everyone will have bid the minimum, bid the next increment up.
Sounds like a top tip. Thank you.

yellowbentines

5,312 posts

207 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Louis Balfour said:
it turns out that it's £3500... per person.
Yes, and? Oh right, you're serious.

This is the second time in as many days someone has publicly admitted their reluctance (or heaven forbid, inability) to pay the necessary to ensure a pleb-free vacationing experience, and I'm starting to wonder if PH should perhaps implement some form of tiered forum membership to stop this place going to the dogs.

Your, YB (BA Executive Club 'Blue' member with well over 100k avios don't you know)

wink

In a more useful sense, log onto the Virgin Atlantic website after booking and check how much it is to upgrade. I did this for some upcoming USA flights and the cost to upgrade was less than the minimum bid on the bidding system - weird glitch perhaps but worth a look. Failing that Virgin split economy on some aircraft and you can often pay a little more and get into a smaller section midway down the aircraft instead of being at the very back in amongst people smoking and sitting on crates of chickens no doubt.

sleepezy

1,796 posts

234 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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djc206 said:
It’s common with a lot of airlines. Never bid the absolute minimum, loads will do that. Never bid the next increment up, loads of people will do that thinking that everyone will have bid the minimum, bid the next increment up.
Damn it now I've got to bid above the next bid above the next bid above the next bid above the minimum grumpybiggrin

Yes - bid before, on three flights I think - generally a couple of increments above minimum - never failed, good luck

Louis Balfour

Original Poster:

26,271 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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yellowbentines said:
Louis Balfour said:
it turns out that it's £3500... per person.
Yes, and? Oh right, you're serious.

This is the second time in as many days someone has publicly admitted their reluctance (or heaven forbid, inability) to pay the necessary to ensure a pleb-free vacationing experience, and I'm starting to wonder if PH should perhaps implement some form of tiered forum membership to stop this place going to the dogs.

Your, YB (BA Executive Club 'Blue' member with well over 100k avios don't you know)

wink

In a more useful sense, log onto the Virgin Atlantic website after booking and check how much it is to upgrade. I did this for some upcoming USA flights and the cost to upgrade was less than the minimum bid on the bidding system - weird glitch perhaps but worth a look. Failing that Virgin split economy on some aircraft and you can often pay a little more and get into a smaller section midway down the aircraft instead of being at the very back in amongst people smoking and sitting on crates of chickens no doubt.
Well the good news is that the price has dropped. It's now £3250 per seat. The bad new is that's one way. JFK to LGW.

It makes me feel poor and like I should have worked harder at school.




m3jappa

6,414 posts

218 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Louis Balfour said:
yellowbentines said:
Louis Balfour said:
it turns out that it's £3500... per person.
Yes, and? Oh right, you're serious.

This is the second time in as many days someone has publicly admitted their reluctance (or heaven forbid, inability) to pay the necessary to ensure a pleb-free vacationing experience, and I'm starting to wonder if PH should perhaps implement some form of tiered forum membership to stop this place going to the dogs.

Your, YB (BA Executive Club 'Blue' member with well over 100k avios don't you know)

wink

In a more useful sense, log onto the Virgin Atlantic website after booking and check how much it is to upgrade. I did this for some upcoming USA flights and the cost to upgrade was less than the minimum bid on the bidding system - weird glitch perhaps but worth a look. Failing that Virgin split economy on some aircraft and you can often pay a little more and get into a smaller section midway down the aircraft instead of being at the very back in amongst people smoking and sitting on crates of chickens no doubt.
Well the good news is that the price has dropped. It's now £3250 per seat. The bad new is that's one way. JFK to LGW.

It makes me feel poor and like I should have worked harder at school.
As lord sugar above comments theres currently another thread about this.

Why anyone would spend 7k extra to go to and from new york is beggars belief tbh. Plain fking stupid and i bet you will find the majority of those doing it cant actually afford it (by afford i mean they don't notice they are paying for it) but they like to make out they can so they dont have to sit with the 'plebs' hehe

I mean seriously, a family of 4 could expect to pay 28k on top hehe really?

Like your self i feel i should have worked harder at school hehe

4Q

3,356 posts

144 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Never had any luck bidding beforehand. You can usually upgrade at the airport if there’s seats available. I’ve done it a few times and it was £800/$1000 each way but it’s pot luck if they have space so I’d recommend getting to the airport early if you need 4 seats.

Louis Balfour

Original Poster:

26,271 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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m3jappa said:
Louis Balfour said:
yellowbentines said:
Louis Balfour said:
it turns out that it's £3500... per person.
Yes, and? Oh right, you're serious.

This is the second time in as many days someone has publicly admitted their reluctance (or heaven forbid, inability) to pay the necessary to ensure a pleb-free vacationing experience, and I'm starting to wonder if PH should perhaps implement some form of tiered forum membership to stop this place going to the dogs.

Your, YB (BA Executive Club 'Blue' member with well over 100k avios don't you know)

wink

In a more useful sense, log onto the Virgin Atlantic website after booking and check how much it is to upgrade. I did this for some upcoming USA flights and the cost to upgrade was less than the minimum bid on the bidding system - weird glitch perhaps but worth a look. Failing that Virgin split economy on some aircraft and you can often pay a little more and get into a smaller section midway down the aircraft instead of being at the very back in amongst people smoking and sitting on crates of chickens no doubt.
Well the good news is that the price has dropped. It's now £3250 per seat. The bad new is that's one way. JFK to LGW.

It makes me feel poor and like I should have worked harder at school.
As lord sugar above comments theres currently another thread about this.

Why anyone would spend 7k extra to go to and from new york is beggars belief tbh. Plain fking stupid and i bet you will find the majority of those doing it cant actually afford it (by afford i mean they don't notice they are paying for it) but they like to make out they can so they dont have to sit with the 'plebs' hehe

I mean seriously, a family of 4 could expect to pay 28k on top hehe really?

Like your self i feel i should have worked harder at school hehe
I bet almost no one is paying £8k return for one of those seats. It will be people with air miles, discounts or family who work for Virgin.






egor110

16,851 posts

203 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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m3jappa said:
Louis Balfour said:
yellowbentines said:
Louis Balfour said:
it turns out that it's £3500... per person.
Yes, and? Oh right, you're serious.

This is the second time in as many days someone has publicly admitted their reluctance (or heaven forbid, inability) to pay the necessary to ensure a pleb-free vacationing experience, and I'm starting to wonder if PH should perhaps implement some form of tiered forum membership to stop this place going to the dogs.

Your, YB (BA Executive Club 'Blue' member with well over 100k avios don't you know)

wink

In a more useful sense, log onto the Virgin Atlantic website after booking and check how much it is to upgrade. I did this for some upcoming USA flights and the cost to upgrade was less than the minimum bid on the bidding system - weird glitch perhaps but worth a look. Failing that Virgin split economy on some aircraft and you can often pay a little more and get into a smaller section midway down the aircraft instead of being at the very back in amongst people smoking and sitting on crates of chickens no doubt.
Well the good news is that the price has dropped. It's now £3250 per seat. The bad new is that's one way. JFK to LGW.

It makes me feel poor and like I should have worked harder at school.
As lord sugar above comments theres currently another thread about this.

Why anyone would spend 7k extra to go to and from new york is beggars belief tbh. Plain fking stupid and i bet you will find the majority of those doing it cant actually afford it (by afford i mean they don't notice they are paying for it) but they like to make out they can so they dont have to sit with the 'plebs' hehe

I mean seriously, a family of 4 could expect to pay 28k on top hehe really?

Like your self i feel i should have worked harder at school hehe
Or started a popular band .

The fury of the iconic powerfully built director as he turns left only to find a group of tattooed long haired noisy musicians have invaded his sanctuary .

m3jappa

6,414 posts

218 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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egor110 said:
m3jappa said:
Louis Balfour said:
yellowbentines said:
Louis Balfour said:
it turns out that it's £3500... per person.
Yes, and? Oh right, you're serious.

This is the second time in as many days someone has publicly admitted their reluctance (or heaven forbid, inability) to pay the necessary to ensure a pleb-free vacationing experience, and I'm starting to wonder if PH should perhaps implement some form of tiered forum membership to stop this place going to the dogs.

Your, YB (BA Executive Club 'Blue' member with well over 100k avios don't you know)

wink

In a more useful sense, log onto the Virgin Atlantic website after booking and check how much it is to upgrade. I did this for some upcoming USA flights and the cost to upgrade was less than the minimum bid on the bidding system - weird glitch perhaps but worth a look. Failing that Virgin split economy on some aircraft and you can often pay a little more and get into a smaller section midway down the aircraft instead of being at the very back in amongst people smoking and sitting on crates of chickens no doubt.
Well the good news is that the price has dropped. It's now £3250 per seat. The bad new is that's one way. JFK to LGW.

It makes me feel poor and like I should have worked harder at school.
As lord sugar above comments theres currently another thread about this.

Why anyone would spend 7k extra to go to and from new york is beggars belief tbh. Plain fking stupid and i bet you will find the majority of those doing it cant actually afford it (by afford i mean they don't notice they are paying for it) but they like to make out they can so they dont have to sit with the 'plebs' hehe

I mean seriously, a family of 4 could expect to pay 28k on top hehe really?

Like your self i feel i should have worked harder at school hehe
Or started a popular band .

The fury of the iconic powerfully built director as he turns left only to find a group of tattooed long haired noisy musicians have invaded his sanctuary .
I am just astounded at the amount of money people seem to have. If i was murdered tomorrow the daily mail would have me up as the father of a well off family.
We do as a couple earn pretty bloody well, i feel we have done and are doing ok.

But when i see people taking business class flights or going on regular expensive holidays, buying expensive clothes, buying expensive watches regularly, buying cars like range rovers or similar which appear to lose a grand a month or so i start to feel like i have seriously fked up somewhere down the line hehe

For me its not a jealousy thing, i am genuinely pleased to see people do well, its more a case of how the fk have you done it hehe

Griffith4ever

4,233 posts

35 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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m3jappa said:
For me its not a jealousy thing, i am genuinely pleased to see people do well, its more a case of how the fk have you done it hehe
Start/ own your own business. If it does well, the money snow balls after a while. Nothing like working for a company. (and don't have kids if you want a head start).

Louis Balfour

Original Poster:

26,271 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Griffith4ever said:
m3jappa said:
For me its not a jealousy thing, i am genuinely pleased to see people do well, its more a case of how the fk have you done it hehe
Start/ own your own business. If it does well, the money snow balls after a while. Nothing like working for a company. (and don't have kids if you want a head start).
m3jappa owns his own business and I believe he is quite successful.

I own businesses and have done fairly well, though nothing amazing.

But I never cease to be amazed by the people I meet on holidays that I have really had to stretch myself to afford.

DeejRC

5,779 posts

82 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Equally though - why worry about it? You aren’t paying for them, they aren’t paying for your holiday.

Biz class is generally £2k ish rtn pp to the Americas. Allegedly it’s cheaper in the Virgin & BA sales, however, they always appear to be the same price to me. The upgrades at the airport are usually about £500-£1000 pp per leg upto biz/Upper.

If you can afford it, hurrah, if you can’t you can’t. We all have our own lives to live and the one lesson I have learnt is that the grass is rarely greener/A N Others life is rarely the happy lark it may appear looking in.

Louis Balfour

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26,271 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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DeejRC said:
Biz class is generally £2k ish rtn pp to the Americas. .
It's working out nearer £8kpp rtn.


djc206

12,341 posts

125 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Louis Balfour said:
DeejRC said:
Biz class is generally £2k ish rtn pp to the Americas. .
It's working out nearer £8kpp rtn.
Can’t blame them for trying.

He’s right though the US is normally sub £2k return if you book 6+ months out.

Griffith4ever

4,233 posts

35 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Louis Balfour said:
Griffith4ever said:
m3jappa said:
For me its not a jealousy thing, i am genuinely pleased to see people do well, its more a case of how the fk have you done it hehe
Start/ own your own business. If it does well, the money snow balls after a while. Nothing like working for a company. (and don't have kids if you want a head start).
m3jappa owns his own business and I believe he is quite successful.

I own businesses and have done fairly well, though nothing amazing.

But I never cease to be amazed by the people I meet on holidays that I have really had to stretch myself to afford.
Understood.

Perhaps they blow everything on their annual extravegance. I know some people do. They spend nowt on cars and booze etc, and then chuck £20k at a 2 week holiday without blinking, then return to a very modest life at home.

In contrast, I just spent around £7k for two months in Thailand for me and the mrs (that is everything - the lot inc. 6 or so internal flights - I use one card only so easy to keep track), plus £3500 on flights return flights to the UK, which I think is fairly modest for 2 months of heaven. You can very easily spend £10k on 2 weeks all inclusive in the Maldives and thats not aiming anywhere near the top.

Edited by Griffith4ever on Wednesday 15th March 09:19


Edited by Griffith4ever on Wednesday 15th March 09:20

Louis Balfour

Original Poster:

26,271 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Griffith4ever said:
Understood.

Perhaps they blow everything on their annual extravegance. I know some people do. They spend nowt on cars and booze etc, and then chuck £20k at a 2 week holiday without blinking, then return to a very modest life at home.
Think you're right.

Voodoo Blue

870 posts

145 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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djc206 said:
Louis Balfour said:
DeejRC said:
Biz class is generally £2k ish rtn pp to the Americas. .
It's working out nearer £8kpp rtn.
Can’t blame them for trying.

He’s right though the US is normally sub £2k return if you book 6+ months out.
Yep, never pay more than £5k for both of us to the States/Caribbean and most of the time much less than that. Book during the sales and be flexible with your dates and you can currently get to New York for £1330 return in Club with BA next Jan/Feb or just under £2k each in July/August. VA tend to be competitive with BA during their sales so would expect their prices to be similar.


Edited by Voodoo Blue on Wednesday 15th March 14:25

Panamax

3,993 posts

34 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Louis Balfour said:
DeejRC said:
Biz class is generally £2k ish rtn pp to the Americas. .
It's working out nearer £8kpp rtn.
Precisely. I've no idea where those £2k flights are hiding but they're certainly very well hidden!

As it happens, I have some Virgin flights booked so have been following this thread with interest. Frankly it looks to me as though the starting point for bidding is so high you might as well just make up your mind whether you're willing to pay the price for Upper Class and get it booked.