maths based riddles... See if you can answer them.

maths based riddles... See if you can answer them.

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Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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I'll try and keep this one alive for a bit - again with a logic puzzle rather than mathematics.

You are trapped in a room with two guarded doors; one door leads to certain death, the other to escape. One of the guards always tells the truth, the guard of the other door always lies. You are permitted to ask one question of either, but not both, of the guards. What question will ensure that you exit through the safe door?

911newbie

598 posts

260 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Du1point8 said:
So many maths based riddles that I thought I would start a new thread for them all as a little game were the person who answers with the correct answer gets to ask the next one...

I had some fun confusing my friends last night with this little one that they couldnt get their head round.




If you have a one mile race track and you must complete two laps, for a total of two miles.

no more, no less.

If you average 30mph on the first one mile lap, how fast would you have to go on the second lap to average 60 MPH?




I await the first smart arsed comment.
The question can be read to imply that the mean speed required (60 mph in this case) must be done over two laps. In which case, since at 30 mph it has already taken 2 minutes to complete one lap, there is no time left to complete another lap - at any speed.

If the mean speed is to be calculated on a lap by lap basis, then the answer is 60 mph for the second lap.

K87

2,111 posts

187 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Einion Yrth said:
I'll try and keep this one alive for a bit - again with a logic puzzle rather than mathematics.

You are trapped in a room with two guarded doors; one door leads to certain death, the other to escape. One of the guards always tells the truth, the guard of the other door always lies. You are permitted to ask one question of either, but not both, of the guards. What question will ensure that you exit through the safe door?
What's my name?

911newbie

598 posts

260 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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The answer to the second question is -
Ask one guard what the other guard would advise, i.e. which door leads to escape.
If the guard you ask is the truthfull guard, he knows the other guard (the liar) will advise you wrongly, and will point you to the wrong door (door to death).
If the guard you ask is the liar, he knows the other guard (the truthfull guard) will advise you correctly, and will lie to you and advise you to open the wrong door (door to death).
So in both cases you don't open the door which you're advised to, and open the other instead.

911newbie

598 posts

260 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Du1point8 said:
Easier to place back than a square one.

One man can move a round one by rolling it.

H & S as there are not sharp edges?
What about man-holes on hills. I'd have thought a large heavy circular man-hole rolling down a long hill had potential for devastation.
Crickey, they must be about 20 Kgs a pop I'd think.

freecar

4,249 posts

187 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Einion Yrth said:
I'll try and keep this one alive for a bit - again with a logic puzzle rather than mathematics.

You are trapped in a room with two guarded doors; one door leads to certain death, the other to escape. One of the guards always tells the truth, the guard of the other door always lies. You are permitted to ask one question of either, but not both, of the guards. What question will ensure that you exit through the safe door?
How about "are you a guard" if he answers no use the other door, if he answers yes, use this one.

Snoggledog

7,015 posts

217 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Einion Yrth said:
Guffy said:
So... if an aeroplane was on a giant conveyor belt that matched the speed of it, but in the opposite direction, could it take off.... biggrin
Well that should've killed the thread off fairly effectively.
Yes. The plane will take off.

Jinx

11,389 posts

260 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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911newbie said:
The answer to the second question is -
Watch Labyrinth

Fixed it for you smile

samdale

2,860 posts

184 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Einion Yrth said:
I'll try and keep this one alive for a bit - again with a logic puzzle rather than mathematics.

You are trapped in a room with two guarded doors; one door leads to certain death, the other to escape. One of the guards always tells the truth, the guard of the other door always lies. You are permitted to ask one question of either, but not both, of the guards. What question will ensure that you exit through the safe door?
Been watching Labyrinth?

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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samdale said:
Einion Yrth said:
I'll try and keep this one alive for a bit - again with a logic puzzle rather than mathematics.

You are trapped in a room with two guarded doors; one door leads to certain death, the other to escape. One of the guards always tells the truth, the guard of the other door always lies. You are permitted to ask one question of either, but not both, of the guards. What question will ensure that you exit through the safe door?
Been watching Labyrinth?
Not in a very long time, but it's a well known golden oldie answered by 911newbie who should now post up the next puzzle/riddle/conundrum...

dvance

605 posts

168 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Snoggledog said:
Yes. The plane will take off.
+1

dvance

605 posts

168 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Einion Yrth said:
samdale said:
Einion Yrth said:
I'll try and keep this one alive for a bit - again with a logic puzzle rather than mathematics.

You are trapped in a room with two guarded doors; one door leads to certain death, the other to escape. One of the guards always tells the truth, the guard of the other door always lies. You are permitted to ask one question of either, but not both, of the guards. What question will ensure that you exit through the safe door?
Been watching Labyrinth?
Not in a very long time, but it's a well known golden oldie answered by 911newbie who should now post up the next puzzle/riddle/conundrum...
A similar one is: You're at a TV show where you're faced with three doors. There are two goats and an MX-5 behind them. Your task is to choose the door behind which the ultimate driving machine is placed. You choose a door, but then the TV host opens up one of the remaining doors to reveal a goat. The question now is what is the best strategy (the one that maximizes your chances of winning) -- to keep your choice or switch your chosen door?

WreckedGecko

1,191 posts

201 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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You switch doors, cant really remember why though... Something to do with the host knowing which door its behind and thus not opening that one.

samdale

2,860 posts

184 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Stick, wouldn't be seen dead in an MX5. I'll hope to lose with my 1 in 3 chance instead of increasing my odds wink

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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dvance said:
A similar one is: You're at a TV show where you're faced with three doors. There are two goats and an MX-5 behind them. Your task is to choose the door behind which the ultimate driving machine is placed. You choose a door, but then the TV host opens up one of the remaining doors to reveal a goat. The question now is what is the best strategy (the one that maximizes your chances of winning) -- to keep your choice or switch your chosen door?
The 'Monty Hall' problem causes as much heightened argument as the plane and conveyor belt one. Mathematically you have a better chance if you switch your choice because the door that has been opened is always to reveal a goat, it is not at random. Therefore you are being offered the choice between your original door and 'both of the other doors'.

dvance

605 posts

168 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Einion Yrth said:
The 'Monty Hall' problem causes as much heightened argument as the plane and conveyor belt one. Mathematically you have a better chance if you switch your choice because the door that has been opened is always to reveal a goat, it is not at random. Therefore you are being offered the choice between your original door and 'both of the other doors'.
Correct smile I should have posted a less famous question biggrin

911newbie

598 posts

260 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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My turn, my turn !!!

OK, you've got two balls (fnar fnar), both weigh and look the same, one is made of a dense material and is hollow, whereas the other is made from a less dense naterial and is solid.
You roll them both down a track - which one goes faster and why ?

Remember, no googling the answer (if you do your soul will burn in hell for eternity).

krazykris88

361 posts

191 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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dvance said:
A similar one is: You're at a TV show where you're faced with three doors. There are two goats and an MX-5 behind them. Your task is to choose the door behind which the ultimate driving machine is placed. You choose a door, but then the TV host opens up one of the remaining doors to reveal a goat. The question now is what is the best strategy (the one that maximizes your chances of winning) -- to keep your choice or switch your chosen door?
been watching the film 21 have we?

andy400

10,341 posts

231 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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911newbie said:
My turn, my turn !!!

OK, you've got two balls (fnar fnar), both weigh and look the same, one is made of a dense material and is hollow, whereas the other is made from a less dense naterial and is solid.
You roll them both down a track - which one goes faster and why ?

Remember, no googling the answer (if you do your soul will burn in hell for eternity).
Good one! Is it because the dense, hollow ball, because it has more of its weight at greater distance from the center of rotation, giving greater momentum?

(This is an uneducated guess, but you never know.)

Oldandslow

2,405 posts

206 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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If you place them on an inclined track the hollow one is slower to accelerate because all it's mass is around the outside and it has a higher moment of inertia (basically needs more energy to get it rotating at the same speed)