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Goaty Bill 2 said:
The two younger (than me) gentlemen to whom my comments were principally directed have both shown over several threads to have a certain flair for style over fashion, with a hint of traditionalism.
Compared to what these boys will spend on shoes in a year, the outlay for a tie and a hat (assuming one avoids Bates or Lock&Co. for hats) is small beer. A small beer or two may be required for courage the first time outdoors
The outlay is not the issue here:Compared to what these boys will spend on shoes in a year, the outlay for a tie and a hat (assuming one avoids Bates or Lock&Co. for hats) is small beer. A small beer or two may be required for courage the first time outdoors
Colonial said:
No. Seriously. Fedoras are a no go for most lwomen under 40.
Very negative connotations.
I repeat my assertion based upon 'personal market research'. You would certainly be incorrect in/around most of London and the home counties at the least.Very negative connotations.
Let's face it. Nothing is a 100% sure thing with women any more than it is with fishing, aside from using TNT; which tends, as I understand it, to render less than ideal results in either case.
There is a small art to creating the ensemble to be sure, and reasonably correct hat etiquette is still required to some degree.
I would also concede; it can't survive all situations as your only style choice.
schmunk said:
Goaty Bill 2 said:
The two younger (than me) gentlemen to whom my comments were principally directed have both shown over several threads to have a certain flair for style over fashion, with a hint of traditionalism.
Compared to what these boys will spend on shoes in a year, the outlay for a tie and a hat (assuming one avoids Bates or Lock&Co. for hats) is small beer. A small beer or two may be required for courage the first time outdoors
The outlay is not the issue here:Compared to what these boys will spend on shoes in a year, the outlay for a tie and a hat (assuming one avoids Bates or Lock&Co. for hats) is small beer. A small beer or two may be required for courage the first time outdoors
The first two examples are not wearing fedoras. I wouldn't go near either of those hats for 'style', and those are very clearly pre-tied (in other words 'not tied at all') bow ties.
The third gentleman carries it off moderately well IMO, but I would certainly go for something more flamboyant in tie selection rather than matching brown on brown, and avoid imitation 'Indiana Jones' brown poet fedora hat in almost all circumstances, unless you actually look like Harrison Ford.
Light to middle shades of grey, black, burgundy or even cream/white for summer.
I will counter with this photo of an acquaintance of mine from a cigar event some months ago;
He also creates ties as it happens: Shaun Gordon Ties. No business connection etc. I just happen to like the guy and find him extremely stylish. You can find his online store from his instagram (he is also a designer for Turnbull & Asser).
Colonial said:
Definitely not loafers.
New trail running shoes. Perfect for sandy/dusty terrain. I'll keep my beat up old Mizuna Waves for hard core rock scrambling.
I'd hate to have a pair of them for where I go running. A clump of dogshoite in those cleats and it would be game over for me.New trail running shoes. Perfect for sandy/dusty terrain. I'll keep my beat up old Mizuna Waves for hard core rock scrambling.
InductionRoar said:
Not a pair of shoes, but it will keep me going for the time being.
Ah I have that book as well...some nice pictures in there. Picked up the Vass book which is very informative. Took delivery of some other coffee table books too. Just love trawling through the photos.
Goaty Bill 2 said:
Those socks are a bit mundane for you aren't they? :P
In posts not so far back, there was some mention of dirty, unpolished shoes.
I am sure both of you gentlemen have noted the condition of most men's shoes when on the train or in the office?
That is your competition. Lucky you!
Women do see these things, long before they check out your 'buns' or your 'guns'.
Playful socks ramp it up a notch.
I am revealing to you a great [not] secret here; in general women like men who appear successful, orderly, tidy, clean, but at the same time, appear to not take themselves too seriously.
Trust me when I say this - get a couple of nice self-tie bow ties and a stylish fedora for when you are out 'suited and booted' and see if the attention levels don't jump 30-50%.
Thanks GB2. I actually wore those other argyle socks you're a fan of today to work (with some tan Cheaney brogues).In posts not so far back, there was some mention of dirty, unpolished shoes.
I am sure both of you gentlemen have noted the condition of most men's shoes when on the train or in the office?
That is your competition. Lucky you!
Women do see these things, long before they check out your 'buns' or your 'guns'.
Playful socks ramp it up a notch.
I am revealing to you a great [not] secret here; in general women like men who appear successful, orderly, tidy, clean, but at the same time, appear to not take themselves too seriously.
Trust me when I say this - get a couple of nice self-tie bow ties and a stylish fedora for when you are out 'suited and booted' and see if the attention levels don't jump 30-50%.
Re: the bow ties and fedoras. I'm not one for bow ties, too 'dandyish'. My style is semi-hipster tweed country GP.
IMO one can only get away with a fedora if an older gentleman (seen them worked to great effect on AskAndy and StyleForum) or very stylish (working in fashion/those kind of circles) as per your cigar smoking friend otherwise you either look try hard or like a neck beard. Regardless, neither fits with my personal style at present.Goaty Bill 2 said:
The two younger (than me) gentlemen to whom my comments were principally directed have both shown over several threads to have a certain flair for style over fashion, with a hint of traditionalism.
Thank you for the compliment. My wife calls me a tart. Edited by g3org3y on Thursday 7th September 06:55
desolate said:
g3org3y said:
Thanks GB2. I actually wore those other argyle socks you're a fan of today to work (with some tan Cheaney brogues).
My style is semi-hipster tweed country GP.
With those shoes?My style is semi-hipster tweed country GP.
Have yet to compose a work outfit comprising tweed and the JWs. TBH, I've barely worn the JWs, I think the wedding was only the third time. They are probably a bit avant-garde for work but I think that's more to do with the red laces than anything. Stick a pair of brown laces on them and they are much more restrained.
Most of my work shoes are brogues in various shades of tan/brown or chukka boots.
The aforementioned Cheaney are probably one of the nicest pairs I have, though nothing as fancy as some of the lovely examples posted on this thread.
g3org3y said:
Thanks GB2. I actually wore those other argyle socks you're a fan of today to work (with some tan Cheaney brogues).
Re: the bow ties and fedoras. I'm not one for bow ties, too 'dandyish'. My style is semi-hipster tweed country GP. IMO one can only get away with a fedora if an older gentleman (seen them worked to great effect on AskAndy and StyleForum) or very stylish (working in fashion/those kind of circles) as per your cigar smoking friend otherwise you either look try hard or like a neck beard. Regardless, neither fits with my personal style at present.
Country GP... must own a tweed flat cap or two in that case?Re: the bow ties and fedoras. I'm not one for bow ties, too 'dandyish'. My style is semi-hipster tweed country GP.
IMO one can only get away with a fedora if an older gentleman (seen them worked to great effect on AskAndy and StyleForum) or very stylish (working in fashion/those kind of circles) as per your cigar smoking friend otherwise you either look try hard or like a neck beard. Regardless, neither fits with my personal style at present.I still see a bow tie or two in your life one day
I once read a quote that I was certain had been attributed to Oscar Wilde, though I have subsequently failed to find any reference to it, along the lines of "a gentleman should dress to perfection, putting on his clothes and paying the finest attention to every detail... and then forget them."
Once you have learned the 'art' of forgetting what you're wearing, it no longer looks like trying, it is just you.
I think the younguns refer to that as 'owning it'.
Do check out Shaun's instagram and website, if you haven't already, he is a very talented guy IMO.
He creates neck ties, that bow he is wearing is from Turnbull & Asser stock if I am not mistaken.
g3org3y said:
Goaty Bill 2 said:
The two younger (than me) gentlemen to whom my comments were principally directed have both shown over several threads to have a certain flair for style over fashion, with a hint of traditionalism.
Thank you for the compliment. My wife calls me a tart. Goaty Bill 2 said:
I once read a quote that I was certain had been attributed to Oscar Wilde, though I have subsequently failed to find any reference to it, along the lines of "a gentleman should dress to perfection, putting on his clothes and paying the finest attention to every detail... and then forget them."
Totally off topic, but this reminds me of the Samuel Johnson quote on cucumbers:"A cucumber should be well sliced, and dressed with pepper and vinegar, and then thrown out as good for nothing."
schmunk said:
Goaty Bill 2 said:
I once read a quote that I was certain had been attributed to Oscar Wilde, though I have subsequently failed to find any reference to it, along the lines of "a gentleman should dress to perfection, putting on his clothes and paying the finest attention to every detail... and then forget them."
Totally off topic, but this reminds me of the Samuel Johnson quote on cucumbers:"A cucumber should be well sliced, and dressed with pepper and vinegar, and then thrown out as good for nothing."
Goaty Bill 2 said:
I once read a quote that I was certain had been attributed to Oscar Wilde, though I have subsequently failed to find any reference to it, along the lines of "a gentleman should dress to perfection, putting on his clothes and paying the finest attention to every detail... and then forget them."
Sprezzatura?
Goaty Bill 2 said:
I once read a quote that I was certain had been attributed to Oscar Wilde, though I have subsequently failed to find any reference to it, along the lines of "a gentleman should dress to perfection, putting on his clothes and paying the finest attention to every detail... and then forget them."
Once you have learned the 'art' of forgetting what you're wearing, it no longer looks like trying, it is just you.
I think the younguns refer to that as 'owning it'.
Oscar Wilde had some excellent sayings, although how many of them can actually be attributed to him I am unsure. One such saying was along the lines of "a man's trousers should hang from the shoulders not the waist". Of course, in modern society most men don't wear braces and would often go for the less sartorially aware option of a belt, however, the fact remains that like fedoras, some items of menswear are no longer understood and are seen as "trying too hard".Once you have learned the 'art' of forgetting what you're wearing, it no longer looks like trying, it is just you.
I think the younguns refer to that as 'owning it'.
Men and women used to take tremendous pride in their appearance, however, the current trend seems to be looking as though you have put no thought into your outfit at all, whilst secretly you have meticulously calculated every single detail. I know somebody who sepnd 30 minutes ensuring his shirt was tucked in "just the right amount". Apparently, I was uncool because I looked as though I had put more effort in by spending 30 seconds tucking mine in.
LordGrover said:
Goaty Bill 2 said:
I once read a quote that I was certain had been attributed to Oscar Wilde, though I have subsequently failed to find any reference to it, along the lines of "a gentleman should dress to perfection, putting on his clothes and paying the finest attention to every detail... and then forget them."
Sprezzatura?Popped down to the local independent shoe shop local to me this morning, after having a fruitless 6 months on the look out for a dark (conker / chocolate) derby shoe in the sales / seconds bins. Found a nice pair of Barkers done to £88.00 pretty much just what I was looking for.
They’re called “Hallworthy” which I can’t find any mention or reference to online, however Charles Tyrwhitt do a “Hallworthy” line which looks exactly the same. These shoes are branded barkers, but I assume that we can take from this that Tyrwhitts do have at least some of their range manufactured by Barker.
They’re called “Hallworthy” which I can’t find any mention or reference to online, however Charles Tyrwhitt do a “Hallworthy” line which looks exactly the same. These shoes are branded barkers, but I assume that we can take from this that Tyrwhitts do have at least some of their range manufactured by Barker.
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