Being told " I don't love you anymore"

Being told " I don't love you anymore"

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funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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MYOB said:
Two short pieces of advice from me...

Don't go to your wife's family do this weekend.

And get a full time job pronto. You will need to provide a stable home for your kid. You won't be able to do this on a part time job.

Good luck. I went through this myself over the past few years. It's hard but persevere. You will get there eventually.

It's about your child and yourself now. Do everything with your child in mind.
Thanks.

The family are coming to our house now. They will here with a load of my family. Holy st. That is going to be awkward. hehe

I will look for a proper full time job. The one I turned down the other day was only min wage. Looks like I need to get back into IT. smile

I'll also look for jobs nearer to my parent's. When I get settled I'll look for a place of my own.

Algarve

2,102 posts

81 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Initforthemoney said:
Why don’t you just move out?

That’ll sharpen her up a bit if you aren’t there to deal with stuff.
Where should he move to while they're struggling to pay their current mortgage?

Initforthemoney

743 posts

144 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Algarve said:
Initforthemoney said:
Why don’t you just move out?

That’ll sharpen her up a bit if you aren’t there to deal with stuff.
Where should he move to while they're struggling to pay their current mortgage?
Parents?

Friends?

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Initforthemoney said:
Algarve said:
Initforthemoney said:
Why don’t you just move out?

That’ll sharpen her up a bit if you aren’t there to deal with stuff.
Where should he move to while they're struggling to pay their current mortgage?
Parents?

Friends?
It looks like I'll be heading to my parent's. I'm not going until the house is sold though.

Initforthemoney

743 posts

144 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Understood but surely being out of the environment will help non?

It'll help you focus.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Initforthemoney said:
Understood but surely being out of the environment will help non?

It'll help you focus.
I see what you are saying. I don't think it will help. I want to be here for my daughter as much as possible.

Initforthemoney

743 posts

144 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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funkyrobot said:
Initforthemoney said:
Understood but surely being out of the environment will help non?

It'll help you focus.
I see what you are saying. I don't think it will help. I want to be here for my daughter as much as possible.
Totally agree, but both of you are putting her in that environment and so it is best if you remove yourself from it.

If pride comes into it, swallow it.

Time to take action and stop talking.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Initforthemoney said:
Totally agree, but both of you are putting her in that environment and so it is best if you remove yourself from it.

If pride comes into it, swallow it.

Time to take action and stop talking.
Trust me, pride doesn't come into it. smile

I have read through this thread and it seems like me moving out too early is a bad thing to do.

Initforthemoney

743 posts

144 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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funkyrobot said:
Initforthemoney said:
Totally agree, but both of you are putting her in that environment and so it is best if you remove yourself from it.

If pride comes into it, swallow it.

Time to take action and stop talking.
Trust me, pride doesn't come into it. smile

I have read through this thread and it seems like me moving out too early is a bad thing to do.
Why is it?

(Granted, i haven't gone through the thread).


funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Initforthemoney said:
funkyrobot said:
Initforthemoney said:
Totally agree, but both of you are putting her in that environment and so it is best if you remove yourself from it.

If pride comes into it, swallow it.

Time to take action and stop talking.
Trust me, pride doesn't come into it. smile

I have read through this thread and it seems like me moving out too early is a bad thing to do.
Why is it?

(Granted, i haven't gone through the thread).
I think it looks like I'm running away and not taking responsibility for my daughter. If things get nasty my wife can say I ran away from my responsibilities. It looks too much like I'm bailing.

It also means I have no say in what happens to our house. My stuff could disappear, the locks could be changed, someone else could be moved in etc. I guess the possibilities are endless.

MYOB

4,784 posts

138 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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I was forced out of my home and it didn't do me any harm. Through the family courts, everything was split 50/50. That's child contact and finances.

Moving out is not necessarily a problem, but just be warned, you will still be obligated to pay your share of the household bills if they are in both of your names.

If the household is toxic and affecting your child, moving out might be best for the child.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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MYOB said:
I was forced out of my home and it didn't do me any harm. Through the family courts, everything was split 50/50. That's child contact and finances.

Moving out is not necessarily a problem, but just be warned, you will still be obligated to pay your share of the household bills if they are in both of your names.

If the household is toxic and affecting your child, moving out might be best for the child.
I understand the financial responsibility. In terms of our daughter, being here makes sense due to school runs and child care etc. My work is also less than a mile away.

Interestingly, in relation to the bills, if I wasn't around to sort them and her out, nothing would be being sorted or paid.

Initforthemoney

743 posts

144 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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funkyrobot said:
Initforthemoney said:
funkyrobot said:
Initforthemoney said:
Totally agree, but both of you are putting her in that environment and so it is best if you remove yourself from it.

If pride comes into it, swallow it.

Time to take action and stop talking.
Trust me, pride doesn't come into it. smile

I have read through this thread and it seems like me moving out too early is a bad thing to do.
Why is it?

(Granted, i haven't gone through the thread).
I think it looks like I'm running away and not taking responsibility for my daughter. If things get nasty my wife can say I ran away from my responsibilities. It looks too much like I'm bailing.

It also means I have no say in what happens to our house. My stuff could disappear, the locks could be changed, someone else could be moved in etc. I guess the possibilities are endless.
It’s not really running away though.

It is putting an end to the situation.

At the end of the day, you have to face up to the fact that it really is over and putting yourself and your daughter through this on an almost daily basis is madness.

Your daughter will be safe and if anything is suspected, you can report your wife and it will be dealt with accordingly.

If she changes the locks on your property then seek legal advice.

No it isn’t easy but you have to start somewhere and that somewhere is getting out.

You said yourself you have mental health issues and so they are never going to be sorted until you are out of this poisonous relationship.

Something has to give.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Extremely difficult situation. frown

Wishing you and your daughter all the best FR.

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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MYOB said:
I was forced out of my home and it didn't do me any harm. Through the family courts, everything was split 50/50. That's child contact and finances.

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I assume that there sufficient assets for both to have somewhere to live? As if there is only enough asset for one person to live and they have kids, then I think often the courts can say along the lines of 'parent with kids gets to stay till kids turn 18 and then can be sold'.

MYOB

4,784 posts

138 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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hyphen said:
MYOB said:
I was forced out of my home and it didn't do me any harm. Through the family courts, everything was split 50/50. That's child contact and finances.

...
I assume that there sufficient assets for both to have somewhere to live? As if there is only enough asset for one person to live and they have kids, then I think often the courts can say along the lines of 'parent with kids gets to stay till kids turn 18 and then can be sold'.
In my case, the child contact arrangements was resolved first, which gave me equal access. Due to equal access, the finances were split evenly, with no regards to the value of assets for distribution. Pensions were left untouched too along with my annuity.

Alltrack

224 posts

81 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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funkyrobot said:
I understand the financial responsibility. In terms of our daughter, being here makes sense due to school runs and child care etc. My work is also less than a mile away.

Interestingly, in relation to the bills, if I wasn't around to sort them and her out, nothing would be being sorted or paid.
Please don’t move out till you’ve finalised the house sale and access to your kid.
If you leave her in the house, she’s got everything she wants and could stall for months with you paying the mortgage and her claiming single person tax credits.
If I was advising her that’s what I would be telling her to do.


Edited by Alltrack on Saturday 31st August 08:48

Steve H

5,260 posts

195 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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funkyrobot said:
1. I am ok for now, but I'm not letting the erosion of my savings continue. My wife is also sat on a pot of money that could pay 2/3 of our mortgage off. She isn't in any financial difficulty.
You may or may not want to go after "your share" of this money but don't underestimate how useful it is that you may well have rights towards it..........

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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Steve H said:
funkyrobot said:
1. I am ok for now, but I'm not letting the erosion of my savings continue. My wife is also sat on a pot of money that could pay 2/3 of our mortgage off. She isn't in any financial difficulty.
You may or may not want to go after "your share" of this money but don't underestimate how useful it is that you may well have rights towards it..........
This, 100%!!!!
Certainly if she is refusing to contribute towards the mortgage ETC you could well be entitled to half of this.
Normally I would say morally individual savings are your individual savings however if she is not at least helping and making an effort then you should bring this up with the solicitor.


Taylor James

3,111 posts

61 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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The most common approach currently taken by the courts (assuming we aren't discussing Russian or Saudi billionaires, labyrinthine trust funds and couples that have only been married for a few months) is that the courts will look to split assets 50:50 but it could well change if for example, one party has greater earnings potential going forward. The logic will be that if one party is left significantly worse off then why should the state have to pick up the tab.

Regardless of what the two parties agree between them, the agreement will have to be signed off by a judge and that person will most definitely look at whether the proposed agreement seems fair and takes into account things like that mentioned above. Pensions most definitely are on the table.