The PH Cigar Thread

[paulguitar]

IanA2 said:

Hello, long time lurker here, just hang out to breathe in the smoke as I haven't smoked a cigar for well over ten years.

Which is why I'm posting, I'd really appreciate some advice on my stash.

My stash is over ten years old and consists of:

Cohiba: 5 1/2" R52 x 4
5" R48 x 16
5" R38 x 17

Montecristo: 5" R48 x 19

I have an approximate idea of what they cost to replace as new, but I'm wondering if their age would command a premium and it's not a question I'd want to put to a dealer without any inkling whatsoever.

Pointers appreciated. Thanks folks.

At least one of the Cohiba's in the right of the photo there looks to have some significant damage

[IanA2]

paulguitar said:

IanA2 said:

Hello, long time lurker here, just hang out to breathe in the smoke as I haven't smoked a cigar for well over ten years.

Which is why I'm posting, I'd really appreciate some advice on my stash.

My stash is over ten years old and consists of:

Cohiba: 5 1/2" R52 x 4
5" R48 x 16
5" R38 x 17

Montecristo: 5" R48 x 19

I have an approximate idea of what they cost to replace as new, but I'm wondering if their age would command a premium and it's not a question I'd want to put to a dealer without any inkling whatsoever.

Pointers appreciated. Thanks folks.

At least one of the Cohiba's in the right of the photo there looks to have some significant damage

My first reaction to that “which ones?”. However I expanded the pic and could see you were quite correct. I hadn't noticed before, there are a few with imperfections.

All I can think is that I’ve been a bit clumsy with them as I’ve moved them about a bit between plastic and wooden boxes.

Whether or not the smoke will be affected is something I can’t establish myself as my Sats are such that my smoking days are well over.

[paulguitar]

IanA2 said:

paulguitar said:

IanA2 said:

Hello, long time lurker here, just hang out to breathe in the smoke as I haven't smoked a cigar for well over ten years.

Which is why I'm posting, I'd really appreciate some advice on my stash.

My stash is over ten years old and consists of:

Cohiba: 5 1/2" R52 x 4
5" R48 x 16
5" R38 x 17

Montecristo: 5" R48 x 19

I have an approximate idea of what they cost to replace as new, but I'm wondering if their age would command a premium and it's not a question I'd want to put to a dealer without any inkling whatsoever.

Pointers appreciated. Thanks folks.

At least one of the Cohiba's in the right of the photo there looks to have some significant damage

My first reaction to that “which ones?”. However I expanded the pic and could see you were quite correct. I hadn't noticed before, there are a few with imperfections.

All I can think is that I’ve been a bit clumsy with them as I’ve moved them about a bit between plastic and wooden boxes.

Whether or not the smoke will be affected is something I can’t establish myself as my Sats are such that my smoking days are well over.

Very sorry to hear your smoking days are over. Yes, cigars are quite easily damaged moving them around. I recently received an order of Oliva's that arrived with damage similar to what is showing on some in your photos, but they seem to be smoking fine so far.


Have you had any success with finding a buyer for yours? I might be interested, however I am overseas until October. Are the Cohibas possibly Siglo 2's or 3's, do you perhaps know which they are?

[number2]

Hi all, I had a cigar epiphany last night and thought I'd share.

I'm on holiday and I've brought a smorgasbord of cigars with me: R&J #3 & Churchill, Bolivar #2 & Belicosos, Montecristo #4 & #2, Cohiba Siglo #4 & Robusto & Genios etc... 18 in total... the idea being to sample at leisure and find my favourites... over recent years I've gone from sampling a few on holiday to buying a selection and my own humidor.

To the point: Partagas Serie D number 4. Absolutely sublime. I lit it and my first thoughts were that the draw was very easy but by heck did this add to the experience - it was like quaffing on a pine spiced savoury marshmallow - I couldn't get enough and I shall be buying a box at the next opportunity!

My only concerns are now: the rest of my smokes won't live up to this one, and, just as one occasionally receives a bad cigar, I received an exceptionally good Partagas which the rest won't live up to. It really was that good an experience - I've gone from enjoying cigars to being absolutely blown away by this one. Anyone had a similar experience, with this Partagas or otherwise?

[Goaty Bill 2]

number2 said:

Hi all, I had a cigar epiphany last night and thought I'd share.

I'm on holiday and I've brought a smorgasbord of cigars with me: R&J #3 & Churchill, Bolivar #2 & Belicosos, Montecristo #4 & #2, Cohiba Siglo #4 & Robusto & Genios etc... 18 in total... the idea being to sample at leisure and find my favourites... over recent years I've gone from sampling a few on holiday to buying a selection and my own humidor.

To the point: Partagas Serie D number 4. Absolutely sublime. I lit it and my first thoughts were that the draw was very easy but by heck did this add to the experience - it was like quaffing on a pine spiced savoury marshmallow - I couldn't get enough and I shall be buying a box at the next opportunity!

My only concerns are now: the rest of my smokes won't live up to this one, and, just as one occasionally receives a bad cigar, I received an exceptionally good Partagas which the rest won't live up to. It really was that good an experience - I've gone from enjoying cigars to being absolutely blown away by this one. Anyone had a similar experience, with this Partagas or otherwise?

A while back;

Goaty Bill 2 said:

Today is St Patrick's day apparently.
As it goes, that made a good excuse for a cigar event to celebrate.
The venue owners are Irish, though conspicuously absent, no doubt preferring to attend an event taking place simultaneously in the Dublin premises.

The evening's cigar was a vintage 2000 Partagas Serie D No. 4.


Length: 4 7/8" (124mm)
Ring Gauge: 50

Absolutely fabulous cigar.

Paired with two Irish whiskeys; Green Spot Leoville Barton Bordeaux Finished, and Redbreast 15 year old.
The latter of the two being especially nice in my opinion.

Note the date - 16 years aged.
I'd never smoked one previously, but a number of attendees had, and do regularly it seems.
Most seemed to agree that on average, it's an 'average' cigar, but raved about the aged stock we were smoking.
I understand exactly what you mean here; I had a couple of H. Upmann cigars a few years back that were amazing, but subsequent smokes have not produced a similar experience.

Even if a fresh box does not meet your expectations, a few months in the humidor will almost certainly improve them.

[jinkster]

With winter approaching. Do you smoke in the house or does your cigar smoking pause for the winter?

[Goaty Bill 2]

jinkster said:

With winter approaching. Do you smoke in the house or does your cigar smoking pause for the winter?

My smoking of cigarettes, cigars or pipes pauses for no man, season or act of God.

ETA
Aside from the final act of course.

Edited by Goaty Bill 2 on Monday 4th September 18:49

[jinkster]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

jinkster said:

With winter approaching. Do you smoke in the house or does your cigar smoking pause for the winter?

My smoking of cigarettes, cigars or pipes pauses for no man, season or act of God.

[paulguitar]

jinkster said:

Goaty Bill 2 said:

jinkster said:

With winter approaching. Do you smoke in the house or does your cigar smoking pause for the winter?

My smoking of cigarettes, cigars or pipes pauses for no man, season or act of God.

Whilst I am at work, I have access to this cigar lounge for my cigar evenings:





When I am back home I smoke in my own lounge and just open the door for a few minutes to let as much of the smoke out as possible. I find that cigar smoke does not tend to linger in the same way as cigarette smoke, plus it is much more pleasant of course!

[Mastodon2]

jinkster said:

With winter approaching. Do you smoke in the house or does your cigar smoking pause for the winter?

Having a local cigar lounge means that smoking cigars needn't be a seasonal pass time.

[number2]

Bill, I remember reading your post about the Serie D now. Perhaps I was fortunate and the one I had had been hanging around for a while and had some time to mature - it was actually purchased for me by my partner from a hotel cigar lounge!

Last night's Partagas Madura #1 was pleasant but didn't blow me away. This morning's Hoyo de Monterrey Hermosos No. 4 Anejados is very nice indeed and more will be added to the collection! Maybe it's an age thing as the Hoyo is apparently aged for 5-8 years.

[jinkster]

Current count stands at

Romeo y Julieta Short Churchill - 3
Montecristo open master - 2
Montecristo edmundo - 5
Hoyo series de hoyo - 3
Partagas series p number 2 - 1

Humidity at 70% with a 69% Boveda.

[Armitage.Shanks]

IanA2 said:

Armitage.Shanks said:

Can't help on value but I'll take 5 x Montes off you for a tenner?

Sure you will, remind me, what is it Armitage Shanks sell.....?

For some reason this pic didn't show above. Interesting ly, (possibly because of today's weather) the RF went from 69% to 63% in a just few minutes.

I'm still interested if you're stuck with them

[paulguitar]

Armitage.Shanks said:

IanA2 said:

Armitage.Shanks said:

Can't help on value but I'll take 5 x Montes off you for a tenner?

Sure you will, remind me, what is it Armitage Shanks sell.....?

For some reason this pic didn't show above. Interesting ly, (possibly because of today's weather) the RF went from 69% to 63% in a just few minutes.

I'm still interested if you're stuck with them

I might still be interested too, did you get my email about this?

[IanA2]

Armitage.Shanks said:

IanA2 said:

Armitage.Shanks said:

Can't help on value but I'll take 5 x Montes off you for a tenner?

Sure you will, remind me, what is it Armitage Shanks sell.....?

For some reason this pic didn't show above. Interesting ly, (possibly because of today's weather) the RF went from 69% to 63% in a just few minutes.

I'm still interested if you're stuck with them

Tell you what I'll take 5 Montes off you for a tenner, in fact at that price I'll take a gross or two

[IanA2]

paulguitar said:

Armitage.Shanks said:

IanA2 said:

Armitage.Shanks said:

Can't help on value but I'll take 5 x Montes off you for a tenner?

Sure you will, remind me, what is it Armitage Shanks sell.....?

For some reason this pic didn't show above. Interesting ly, (possibly because of today's weather) the RF went from 69% to 63% in a just few minutes.

I'm still interested if you're stuck with them

I might still be interested too, did you get my email about this?

Sorry Paul, got your mail, will reply tomorrow.

[paulguitar]

I stopped into a cigar shop in Grand Cayman this week and picked these up:




The Montecristo is a Double Edmundo and the Cohiba a Media Siglo. I have had neither of these before. The Cohiba is a new vitola, a stubby little fella, the ring gauge of a Siglo 6 with the length of a Siglo 1. At a list price of $26 I am hoping for great things considering it is only a 35 minute smoke! I am not sure what to expect from the Montecristo, but I am looking forward to that as well.


Has anyone tried either of these?

[Goaty Bill 2]

paulguitar said:

I stopped into a cigar shop in Grand Cayman this week and picked these up:

The Montecristo is a Double Edmundo and the Cohiba a Media Siglo. I have had neither of these before. The Cohiba is a new vitola, a stubby little fella, the ring gauge of a Siglo 6 with the length of a Siglo 1. At a list price of $26 I am hoping for great things considering it is only a 35 minute smoke! I am not sure what to expect from the Montecristo, but I am looking forward to that as well.


Has anyone tried either of these?

The Double Edmundo is one of my favourites.
I really like Monticristos as a rule, and the DE provides a nice long classic Monti smoke.

[anonymous-user]

If the double edmundo is on point it is a really great smoke. If it's a dud, and a lot of them are, it can be a disappointing and frustrating experience.

My advice through my own mistakes is to make sure there is a fantastic sheen of dark chocolate on montie 2's and edmundos and I don't think you can go wrong (so long as they have been stored correctly).

Had a H Upmann 46 at the weekend and I had my doubts about the way in which the cigar shop stored their cubans.... i.e. not a fully enclosed environment that the sticks were kept in due to spaces in the glass cabinet they were kept in. Unfortunately my suspicions were correct and the smoke was bitter and just nasty.

New purchasing rule I will abide by.... If there is a doubt, there is no doubt! Walk away.

[Goaty Bill 2]

230th Anniversary for JJ Fox last night.
Champagne on entry, and plentiful red and white to follow.

The evening's cigar was the Hoyo de Monterrey Churchill 1985.
Gauge 47
Length 7" / 178mm



An absolutely magnificent cigar.
For no particular reason I can put in to words (the price of being a novice), I would say this was easily one of the best smokes I've had this year.

As always a lively and convivial evening.