Can we hunt him using an Apache?
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groucho said:
It just killing for killing sake. How f
king difficult can it be to hide and shoot a Lion with a crossbow. So I don't buy the thrill of the hunt.
Had he killed the lion in 1 to 1 unarmed combat - i'd be impressed, but shooting it from the back of a jeep or whatever is hardly "sport".king difficult can it be to hide and shoot a Lion with a crossbow. So I don't buy the thrill of the hunt.groucho said:
How fking difficult can it be to hide and shoot a Lion with a crossbow?
Harder than it is to kill a lion cleanly with a crossbow apparently. The lion was only wounded and spent 40 hours being stalked before it was shot dead.king difficult can it be to hide and shoot a Lion with a crossbow?I heard Simon King on Radio 4 yesterday explaining how killing a mature dominant male will have a ripple effect which will result in the death of lots of other lions in the area too.
If you want to shoot wild animals then use a camera.
If it happened as reported (unlicensed animal and wounded rather than killed) then the book should be thrown at the organisers and at the client if he was aware that things weren't legit.
Bow hunting is not easy. Speaking from my position of ignorance, I would have thought it would be irresponsible to try to use a bow on a large mammal, but the arrow heads are a bunch of razor blades so I guess if you manage to get close enough it might be possible to kill a large animal cleanly. Either way, I'd be very surprised if the client wasn't being backed up by the professional hunter with a rifle, so one wonders why he failed to put the lion out of its misery immediately.
As I've spouted on the elephant thread, there's a legitimate place for professional hunting as part of a game reserve's conservation work. I wouldn't want to pull the trigger myself, but if someone else wants to and they do it competently so the animal getting shot doesn't suffer unnecessarily, I've got no problem with it. Ham fisted attempts with a bow and arrow on an animal that doesn't need to be culled is an entirely different matter.
Bow hunting is not easy. Speaking from my position of ignorance, I would have thought it would be irresponsible to try to use a bow on a large mammal, but the arrow heads are a bunch of razor blades so I guess if you manage to get close enough it might be possible to kill a large animal cleanly. Either way, I'd be very surprised if the client wasn't being backed up by the professional hunter with a rifle, so one wonders why he failed to put the lion out of its misery immediately.
As I've spouted on the elephant thread, there's a legitimate place for professional hunting as part of a game reserve's conservation work. I wouldn't want to pull the trigger myself, but if someone else wants to and they do it competently so the animal getting shot doesn't suffer unnecessarily, I've got no problem with it. Ham fisted attempts with a bow and arrow on an animal that doesn't need to be culled is an entirely different matter.
He paid $55,000 to kill this lion.
I imagine there are people who would do the same to him for less money.
How would he feel if he were hunted? With nowhere to hide? Facing inevitable death?
I'm sure he would call the police and hide behind the law in the USA. The lion did not have such a luxury as to call the authorities for help.
I imagine there are people who would do the same to him for less money.
How would he feel if he were hunted? With nowhere to hide? Facing inevitable death?
I'm sure he would call the police and hide behind the law in the USA. The lion did not have such a luxury as to call the authorities for help.
He is currently sitting in the US while the Ph Theo Bronkhurst and landowner are sitting in a jail cell in Zimbabwe.
http://abcnews.go.com/Weird/wireStory/zimbabwe-cou...
Its not the 1st time either of them have been busted
http://www.huntingreport.com/hunting_article_detai...
http://www.northlandoutdoors.com/event/article/id/...
No morals or ethics all about the money and ego.
The killing of world famous Zimbabwean lion, Cecil, may represent just the tip of the iceberg, the president of the Safari Operators Association of Zimbabwe, Emmanuel Fundira has said.
Fundira told The Zimbabwean shortly after a press conference in Harare today that the killing of Cecil was a sophisticated operation conducted by a highly organised syndicate which may involve more people than those identified
http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/news/zimsit_w_cec...
http://abcnews.go.com/Weird/wireStory/zimbabwe-cou...
Its not the 1st time either of them have been busted
http://www.huntingreport.com/hunting_article_detai...
http://www.northlandoutdoors.com/event/article/id/...
No morals or ethics all about the money and ego.
The killing of world famous Zimbabwean lion, Cecil, may represent just the tip of the iceberg, the president of the Safari Operators Association of Zimbabwe, Emmanuel Fundira has said.
Fundira told The Zimbabwean shortly after a press conference in Harare today that the killing of Cecil was a sophisticated operation conducted by a highly organised syndicate which may involve more people than those identified
http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/news/zimsit_w_cec...
Edited by audikentman on Tuesday 28th July 22:19
Baryonyx said:
This is a man who has sacrificed the right to a life without pain.
He's a dentist - hence he already lives in a world of pain. You may need to be more specific about who actually experiences it though.What I want to know is why all of the so-called moderate, peace and animal-loving dentists aren't out on the streets denouncing this obvious wrong'un.
Makes you wonder if they aren't all just a bit....well...you know....closet big-game hunter fetishists.
I used to work for an American company. The CIO used to go on these African trophy hunt trips and proudly showed us pictures of him with a variety of wildlife that he'd killed. Needless to say we were all pretty shocked.
I hated him anyway, but I stood up, called him a few choice words and resigned there and then. To get pleasure from that can only be described as a mental illness of some sort. Hateful people.
I hated him anyway, but I stood up, called him a few choice words and resigned there and then. To get pleasure from that can only be described as a mental illness of some sort. Hateful people.
His story is that he had no idea the lion was known and wearing a GPS collar, however I can't see the local guides not knowing that, or him if he knew anything about the area. Also, they tried to hide the GPS collar but it was found according to one article I read, so they must have known straight away what they'd done.
I bet those places are rife with fake companies "selling" illegal game kills.
I bet those places are rife with fake companies "selling" illegal game kills.
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