Misfits, Dad's Army Types et al...

Misfits, Dad's Army Types et al...

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Halmyre

7,606 posts

87 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Scabutz said:
pavarotti1980 said:
No saying it's untrue but it's weird to be breathalysed to go into a club. Can't imagine it's calibrated and accurate
This is what makes it Walty. Anyone can recognise a drunk person. Policemen / Women are expert witnesses in sobriety. If they say someone is drunk and disorderly, they are. The dont have the take a breath sample, so why would this guy need to on the door of some st hole?

Blowing into a fisher price breathalyser and saying if you are "over the limit" you can't come in! Walty! What limit is that then? The driving limit? The national have a drink, grab a granny limit?
Their gaff, their rules, their limit? Or at least the owner's rules, and they reserve the right to refuse service, etc. Some drunken idiot might be more inclined to back down and go away if faced with concrete evidence of his inebriation, however bogus it might be, rather than just be told "you're not getting in because you're drunk".

elanfan

3,843 posts

175 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Starfighter said:
It like my depend on where the women in the club fall in the fix-dog scale.
Que?

Scabutz

2,189 posts

28 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Halmyre said:
Scabutz said:
pavarotti1980 said:
No saying it's untrue but it's weird to be breathalysed to go into a club. Can't imagine it's calibrated and accurate
This is what makes it Walty. Anyone can recognise a drunk person. Policemen / Women are expert witnesses in sobriety. If they say someone is drunk and disorderly, they are. The dont have the take a breath sample, so why would this guy need to on the door of some st hole?

Blowing into a fisher price breathalyser and saying if you are "over the limit" you can't come in! Walty! What limit is that then? The driving limit? The national have a drink, grab a granny limit?
Their gaff, their rules, their limit? Or at least the owner's rules, and they reserve the right to refuse service, etc. Some drunken idiot might be more inclined to back down and go away if faced with concrete evidence of his inebriation, however bogus it might be, rather than just be told "you're not getting in because you're drunk".
It's still Walty.

Keyser Soze

18,996 posts

139 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Scabutz said:
It's still Walty.
Doing a job you're being paid to do and following the instructions given, yeah Walty as fk rolleyes

Crossflow Kid

11,256 posts

139 months

Tuesday 19th November
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pavarotti1980 said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Wow. That helps.
Ambulances can do absolutely nothing more for an intoxicated person than anyone else can.
But hey, let’s just off-load the problem on to an agency that isn’t allowed to refuse, then no doubt sit back and tell everyone how we “saved the guys life”
tts.
Their alleged duty of care to a random on the street soon stopped like. I wonder if theoretically) the bloke croaked it in between them ringing and ambulance arriving would come back to bite them on the arse since they just nicked off
Unlikely. Despite the apparent heroics they have precisely zero duty of care to someone on the street.

Scabutz

2,189 posts

28 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Keyser Soze said:
Scabutz said:
It's still Walty.
Doing a job you're being paid to do and following the instructions given, yeah Walty as fk rolleyes
Glad you agree.

pavarotti1980

2,551 posts

32 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Crossflow Kid said:
Unlikely. Despite the apparent heroics they have precisely zero duty of care to someone on the street.
https://mol.im/a/7703329

Hopefully the mobile bouncers weren't in the vicinity

Edited by pavarotti1980 on Tuesday 19th November 22:33

BossHogg

3,743 posts

126 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Scabutz said:
This is what makes it Walty. Anyone can recognise a drunk person. Policemen / Women are expert witnesses in sobriety. If they say someone is drunk and disorderly, they are. The dont have the take a breath sample, so why would this guy need to on the door of some st hole?

Blowing into a fisher price breathalyser and saying if you are "over the limit" you can't come in! Walty! What limit is that then? The driving limit? The national have a drink, grab a granny limit?
It used to form part of my arrest statement for drunkenness. His speech was slurred, his eyes were glazed, his gait was unsteady and his breath smelled strongly of alcoholic liquor, he was drunk.

Scabutz

2,189 posts

28 months

Tuesday 19th November
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BossHogg said:
It used to form part of my arrest statement for drunkenness. His speech was slurred, his eyes were glazed, his gait was unsteady and his breath smelled strongly of alcoholic liquor, he was drunk.
A great start to my biography right there.

BossHogg

3,743 posts

126 months

Wednesday 20th November
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Pleased to have been of assistance. wink

pavarotti1980

2,551 posts

32 months

Wednesday 20th November
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BossHogg said:
It used to form part of my arrest statement for drunkenness. His speech was slurred, his eyes were glazed, his gait was unsteady and his breath smelled strongly of alcoholic liquor, he was drunk.
Didnt it get challenged that alcoholic liquor effectively had no smell so it all changed to intoxicating liquor?

Frank7

3,925 posts

35 months

Wednesday 20th November
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GOATever said:
It’s a shame that this type of plank have to do this sort of thing. But if you speak to an Ally Vet about their bling, they normally tend not to mind. The Walt’s get defensive, and can’t answer simple questions about them. After a while, you get to know what particular medals, and ribbons, and additions are, where they come from, what they should look like, and what they shouldn’t look like. I can spot a wrong’un pretty easily, and those are the ones I strike up a conversation with. The usual dead cert giveaway that it’s a Walt, are the EBay medals, with no engraving on the edge. They also get order of precedence wrong most of the time.


Edited by GOATever on Monday 11th November 13:10
I have zero involvement in any of this, having never done any military service, although both my sons did stints in the army, both apparently sharing their grandfather, (my father’s), attitude to being in it.
His one ambition, after being dragged into the Royal Tank Regiment in 1940, was to be an ex-serviceman, a thought shared by his grandsons, after basic training.
I digress, my eldest grandson, a German citizen, a product of my son marrying the German girl he met when stationed in Bielefeld, visited me this week.
I didn’t notice it, as it was infinitesimal, but my wife said, “What’s that tiny pin, Lars?”
It turned out to be a very miniature Iron Cross.
I asked, “Is that allowed in Germany?”, knowing that swastikas etc are banned from being displayed.
He said, “Yes, my great grandfather was awarded one in France, in WW1, and my grandfather was awarded one on the Russian front in WW11.”
I said that I thought that only recipients could wear medals, although family could, but on the right side of your breast.
He said, “Normally yes, but as I served in the Bundeswehr, and trained to fly helicopters in the Air Force, (no longer Luftwaffe), before being medically discharged, I’m allowed, particularly as the Defence Ministry has reviewed my case, and I’ve been reinstated, I’m now in the Air Force reserves.”

kowalski655

9,073 posts

91 months

Wednesday 20th November
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Starfighter said:
It like my depend on where the women in the club fall in the fox-dog scale.
But the drinker you are, the higher up that scale any woman goes

Frank,are you outing your grandson as a Walt ( or maybe "Valt",as he is German smile)

Edited by kowalski655 on Wednesday 20th November 18:59

shed driver

912 posts

108 months

Wednesday 20th November
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Many people wore their father's medals on the right side, what would the reaction have been if your father was German and you did the remembrance parade with a chest full of German medals from WW2?

It's still commemorating veterans - has anyone ever seen this?

SD.

Frank7

3,925 posts

35 months

Wednesday 20th November
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kowalski655 said:
But the drinker you are, the higher up that scale any woman goes

Frank,are you outing your grandson as a Walt ( or maybe "Valt",as he is German smile)

Edited by kowalski655 on Wednesday 20th November 18:59
No, that wasn’t my intention, and it would appear that as he served in the German Armed Forces, and is still on reserve, that he’s doing nothing wrong in honouring his German ancestors by wearing a tiny Iron Cross lapel pin, albeit he wasn’t awarded one himself.
I just wondered how the cognoscenti on here saw it.
My irreverent son, the one who is now a German citizen, said that Iron Crosses were given out freely, rather like, (according to him), Americans getting Purple Hearts for stubbing their toe in the queue for coffee in the PX.
My grandson tells me however, that they were awarded for bravery.

Europa1

9,187 posts

136 months

Wednesday 20th November
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shed driver said:
Many people wore their father's medals on the right side, what would the reaction have been if your father was German and you did the remembrance parade with a chest full of German medals from WW2?

It's still commemorating veterans - has anyone ever seen this?

SD.
I haven't seen it "for real", as it were, but whenever I have seen documentaries where (admittedly western, I've not seen any involving eastern) Allied veterans have met German veterans, there has only been respect and understanding.

bigandclever

9,452 posts

186 months

Wednesday 20th November
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Frank7 said:
No, that wasn’t my intention, and it would appear that as he served in the German Armed Forces, and is still on reserve, that he’s doing nothing wrong in honouring his German ancestors by wearing a tiny Iron Cross lapel pin, albeit he wasn’t awarded one himself.
The iron cross is the insignia of the Bundeswehr anyway, so he can wear it regardless of ancestor’s awards.

BossHogg

3,743 posts

126 months

Wednesday 20th November
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pavarotti1980 said:
Didnt it get challenged that alcoholic liquor effectively had no smell so it all changed to intoxicating liquor?
I couldn't tell you, I haven't written an arrest statement for drunkenness in 26 years. wink

Frank7

3,925 posts

35 months

Wednesday 20th November
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shed driver said:
Many people wore their father's medals on the right side, what would the reaction have been if your father was German and you did the remembrance parade with a chest full of German medals from WW2?

It's still commemorating veterans - has anyone ever seen this?

SD.
Wow, that would be something, I’d pay to see that.
It’s not quite the same I guess, but my son, ex R.C.T. and living in Germany, visited his German wife’s uncle’s grave in Bielefeld, with his, (my son’s), family, and his in-laws, on Volkstrauerstag, (German Remembrance Day), and proudly wore a poppy.
He said no one seemed bothered, they all seemed happy that a British ex soldier attended the remembrance of a WW2 Wehrmacht veteran.

The Mad Monk

5,963 posts

65 months

Wednesday 20th November
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Frank7 said:
my son, ex R.C.T. and living in Germany, visited his German wife’s uncle’s grave in Bielefeld, with his, (my son’s), family, and his in-laws,
Why does my head keep hurting?