Misfits, Dad's Army Types et al...
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Shakermaker said:
Dont like rolls said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Ah yes but in the current climate it’ll be his fault for not pointing out their error to them, or satisfying himself the entire set up was fit for purpose.
If only the Rescue Rangers were around.....
Ahhh.....but they have been "tested" and everythingIf only the Rescue Rangers were around.....
Walty McLemonjuice in his badged up Defender saying "I'm with SE4X4CONFLAB BEADWINDOW" doing damage to your car when towing vs "Hey, I saw you were stuck, maybe i can help"?
Bystander experience as described frequently in this thread and via the gift of YouTube would suggest otherwise.
In general, anyone who attaches their vehicle to that of a total stranger is asking for trouble on many, many levels.
Only time I’ve ever Land Rovered someone out of bother is when they’re a genuine mate or they’re in my way.
Dont like rolls said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Ah yes but in the current climate it’ll be his fault for not pointing out their error to them, or satisfying himself the entire set up was fit for purpose.
If only the Rescue Rangers were around.....
Ahhh.....but they have been "tested" and everythingIf only the Rescue Rangers were around.....
GOATever said:
janesmith1950 said:
o me remberance events are about reminding us how terrible wars are and honouring those who sacrificed themselves on behalf of their fellow citizens.
On that basis, to me it doesn't matter what side you were on, who started it or who won. It's a far more powerful commemoration when you stand side by side with your ex-foe and remember all those who fell.
No, absolutely not. You’d have been shot at dawn for that thinking, during WW1. Creeping liberalism has it’s place. Remembrance events aren’t it. Ze Germans / Japs / Argies / Iraqis / Taliban / whatever, can have their own versions if they want, but mixing it up, is as bad as urinating on the graves of the fallen in my book.On that basis, to me it doesn't matter what side you were on, who started it or who won. It's a far more powerful commemoration when you stand side by side with your ex-foe and remember all those who fell.
Edited by GOATever on Thursday 21st November 08:22
Governments start wars, not the poor unfortunates that have to fight them where it is often kill or be killed.
DonkeyApple said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Gameface said:
You'll never get your badges...
Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don't need badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges.57Ford said:
Shakermaker said:
And so in that case, could they end up being liable for such an error, where a CLUELESS CIVILIAN FUXKING IT UP IN SPADES, NO HIVIZ, NO BEACONS, BOTH EYES OPEN....I COULD GO ON but.....doing their best to assist would not be?
FTFY Rubberduck out. Charlie Fox Kilo, dingo tango.
Oldred_V8S said:
And those unfortunate to suffer PTSD, who refused to fight were often shot as cowards. Thankfully we are slightly more enlightened today.
Governments start wars, not the poor unfortunates that have to fight them where it is often kill or be killed.
‘Shell shock’ as it was then. It’s an issue that non psychopaths, are expected to be able to function as psychopaths. The training tries to bust everyone down to zero, then mould them as psychopaths, but in reality ( especially during the conscription era ) that was never going to fly. It still holds today, but the biff chit exit strategy takes care of the ones who really can’t do it now.Governments start wars, not the poor unfortunates that have to fight them where it is often kill or be killed.
GOATever said:
‘Shell shock’ as it was then. It’s an issue that non psychopaths, are expected to be able to function as psychopaths. The training tries to bust everyone down to zero, then mould them as psychopaths, but in reality ( especially during the conscription era ) that was never going to fly. It still holds today, but the biff chit exit strategy takes care of the ones who really can’t do it now.
You’re a bit odd.Oldred_V8S said:
And those unfortunate to suffer PTSD, who refused to fight were often shot as cowards. Thankfully we are slightly more enlightened today.
Governments start wars, not the poor unfortunates that have to fight them where it is often kill or be killed.
Not quite right. During the course of WWI there were only a handful shot for cowardice, and not that many more for desertion, and even then it was generally reserved for serial deserters. The total was about 300 out of 660,000 (0.05%) killed during the four years of fighting. I'm not saying it was right, but the way people talk about it today you would think it was a common occurrence. It was not.Governments start wars, not the poor unfortunates that have to fight them where it is often kill or be killed.
LimaDelta said:
Not quite right. During the course of WWI there were only a handful shot for cowardice, and not that many more for desertion, and even then it was generally reserved for serial deserters. The total was about 300 out of 660,000 (0.05%) killed during the four years of fighting. I'm not saying it was right, but the way people talk about it today you would think it was a common occurrence. It was not.
Agreehttps://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/...
Oldred_V8S said:
And those unfortunate to suffer PTSD, who refused to fight were often shot as cowards. Thankfully we are slightly more enlightened today.
Governments start wars, not the poor unfortunates that have to fight them where it is often kill or be killed.
You think we are more enlightened today ?Governments start wars, not the poor unfortunates that have to fight them where it is often kill or be killed.
I have PTSD but mine is mild compared to some people.
I've got a mate who is an ex-para.
He served in Iraq and went through hell. I'll spare you the details of what happened to him.
The army treated him like s
t.That is not uncommon.
The only people who really understand PTSD are organisations like Combat Stress.
The NHS, for example, are pretty clueless.
Edited by Red 4 on Saturday 23 November 22:17
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v...
Priceless. “I can’t remember my army number, or which operation I was on”?
Priceless. “I can’t remember my army number, or which operation I was on”?
Edited by GOATever on Monday 2nd December 11:32
GOATever said:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v...
Priceless. “I can’t remember my army number, or which operation I was on”?
I have no comment to make on the guy in the video, but I still remember my elder son’s service number from when he was in the army and I wrote to him, and he’s been out for over 30 years.Priceless. “I can’t remember my army number, or which operation I was on”?
Edited by GOATever on Monday 2nd December 11:32
Please God his younger brother, in the Signals back then, doesn’t ask if I remember his, as I don’t.
GOATever said:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v...
Priceless. “I can’t remember my army number, or which operation I was on”?
I've never met an ex-serviceman that couldn't remember their number. I left 30 years ago and I can recall it without hesitation. Priceless. “I can’t remember my army number, or which operation I was on”?
Edited by GOATever on Monday 2nd December 11:32
The Mad Monk said:
What do these WM types do? Do they buy a cap badge and a beret online and then a bit of army/service uniform and wear it to a gathering, hoping they won't be challenged?
Probably. I mean, you can buy pretty much anything, these days. Or fake it up online. I recall seeing a veteran badge in a local 'antique' shop last year. I wish i'd bought it too, as I seem to have lost mine in a recent house move.I can't get too excited about this to be honest. Some of these Walts seem to have serious issues, and are deserving of some sympathy and compassion, especially if their lives are so empty that they have time, and the inclination, to play dress-up. The only ones I have a serious problem with are those that use fictitious service to gain confidence, or in fraud/theft attempts.
Service persons are not all good people either, to be fair. Back in the early 1990s about half a dozen soldiers in my Squadron were discharged and some served prison sentences for fraud/theft. They were using hired-in minibuses and army fuel to go around various pubs in the area rattling collecting tins for a fictitious charity. They even took in some well-meaning volunteers who were also subject to investigation, but had genuinely believed they were collecting for legitimate causes. A couple of the ringleaders were on the up, too, career-wise, but threw away good careers and decent pensions for a share of a few thousand quid "for the sick kiddies". After all, none of the armed services puts it's potential recruits through a 'hero filter' before signing them up. So the services are simply a cross-section of the society from which they recruit, including violent thugs, burglars, fraudsters, rapists, etc. They're just the ones who haven't been caught yet.
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