Misfits, Dad's Army Types et al...

Misfits, Dad's Army Types et al...

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Dont like rolls

2,108 posts

4 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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BossHogg said:
98elise said:
I've never met an ex-serviceman that couldn't remember their number. I left 30 years ago and I can recall it without hesitation.
Exactly, I've had my number since 1984 and can still rattle it off without thinking. Spluttering it out during training in the gas chamber made sure I never forgot it! laugh
Agggg yes: The added question of "How many Mars Bars in a Box" was unhelpful and not wildly funny at the time if I recall !

BossHogg

3,803 posts

128 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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Or getting asked what the training centre COs dog is called or your room number, I just made it up! biggrin

bluezedd

571 posts

32 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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I always got a strong Walt impression from the "blood bikers" when they would drop samples off at work. Then again, I also questioned whether or not they realised the majority of samples they were bringing weren't really urgent and seemed to be just getting used as a free courier service.

I didn't dare mention bikes to them or they might have tried to recruit me.

yellowjack

12,653 posts

116 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Dont like rolls said:
BossHogg said:
98elise said:
I've never met an ex-serviceman that couldn't remember their number. I left 30 years ago and I can recall it without hesitation.
Exactly, I've had my number since 1984 and can still rattle it off without thinking. Spluttering it out during training in the gas chamber made sure I never forgot it! laugh
Agggg yes: The added question of "How many Mars Bars in a Box" was unhelpful and not wildly funny at the time if I recall !
A small percentage of the population are (largely) immune to the effects of CS Gas. We had one in our intake, 'Badger' (he had a natural white streak in his hair like he'd been painting a ceiling). Upon demasking at the door to the chamber he was asked the routine stuff, name, rank, number, home address, and the instructor was beginning to expect the effects to take hold. But they didn't. He was kept there, answering question after question, and although his eyes started watering and he found it slightly more difficult to answer clearly, he didn't succumb to the CS like the rest of us.In the end the instructor let him out because he'd run out of questions to ask...

Zoobeef

4,217 posts

108 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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yellowjack said:
Dont like rolls said:
BossHogg said:
98elise said:
I've never met an ex-serviceman that couldn't remember their number. I left 30 years ago and I can recall it without hesitation.
Exactly, I've had my number since 1984 and can still rattle it off without thinking. Spluttering it out during training in the gas chamber made sure I never forgot it! laugh
Agggg yes: The added question of "How many Mars Bars in a Box" was unhelpful and not wildly funny at the time if I recall !
A small percentage of the population are (largely) immune to the effects of CS Gas. We had one in our intake, 'Badger' (he had a natural white streak in his hair like he'd been painting a ceiling). Upon demasking at the door to the chamber he was asked the routine stuff, name, rank, number, home address, and the instructor was beginning to expect the effects to take hold. But they didn't. He was kept there, answering question after question, and although his eyes started watering and he found it slightly more difficult to answer clearly, he didn't succumb to the CS like the rest of us.In the end the instructor let him out because he'd run out of questions to ask...
Yeah we had one too. Although he wasnt effected he then had to do a mini phys session in the chamber so I was glad I was. I fked up the first time though, I removed the mask and then took a deep breath to speak. That wasnt pleasant.

Shakermaker

10,528 posts

50 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Something that seems well intentioned but destined to be overrun by a certain type, perhaps?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50708637?fbclid=IwAR...

Gameface

11,327 posts

27 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Catnip...

pavarotti1980

2,698 posts

34 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Shakermaker said:
Something that seems well intentioned but destined to be overrun by a certain type, perhaps?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50708637?fbclid=IwAR...
This on the face of it seems a good idea. Increase awareness but in reality the walts will be ringing 999 with a terror incident the moment they find a dog turd bag in the woods at the same time as setting up a 100m cordon with their hi-viz vest on that they bought for such incidents

Shakermaker

10,528 posts

50 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Maybe now is a good time to invest in a vinyl cutter so I can make some additional stickers for their 27 year old Frontera which proclaims them to be Counter-Terrorism Trained?

Scabutz

2,431 posts

30 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Have we covered the First Amendment Auditors yet?

https://firstamendmentwatch.org/deep-dive/controve...

I fell down a YouTube black hole the other day and was watching some of these. Basically some losers start filming police stations, prisons, etc and then when the police turn up to ask what they are doing they start quote their barroom-barrister legal expertise on why they are allowed to do it. It often ends in them screaming "Am I being detained" when the police ask for ID. Quite often the cops are being complete wkers also.

But one I watched was pathetic. Someone was filming the entrance to an FAA building. Cops arrive and ask her who she and what she is doing. She starts going off on one. I thought the cops had a fair point that she was filming people coming and going from a federal building and they needed to investigate .

Clearly these people have nothing better to do with their lives.

DonkeyApple

35,874 posts

119 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Gameface said:
Catnip...
Or a trap! What better way to generate a list of Gestapo in waiting so that in the event of a crisis they can be rounded up and put on trains to special camps before they get a chance to put all of us on trains to special camps.

yellowjack

12,653 posts

116 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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There was a big gathering of these Response types last night on St Catherine's Hill, near Christchurch/Bournemouth.

I was heading up there on my mountain bike, and spotted several Wessex 4x4 Response vehicles, plus a police Transit van, with several people milling around in hi-vis. Then, driving away, was a Lowland Rescue Land Rover. No one seemed interested in me, so I made my way up onto the Hill and started riding around. Down on the north slope of the Hill I could see a three-man team searching with powerful torches, and on a nearby old rail bed/bridleway were a couple of vehicles with amber flashing lights.

As I came to realise that they might actually be engaged in the useful exercise of searching for a missing person, I decided to make my way off the Hill. I didn't want to be getting under anyone's feet, making a nuisance of myself, or blinding searchers with my front light. As I came off the Hill I saw that the number of vehicles had increased, and that a large bus-like "Search Control" vehicle was parked up, with an area around the back doors coned off and large urns dispensing hot drinks from trestle tables set up alongside the bus. I asked what was going on but no info was forthcoming other than "we've got it all under control, thanks" so I went home. I wouldn't have been much use to them anyway, dressed in my "silly cycling shoes" and with less than an hour's burn time left in my bike light. Besides which I'm new to the area, and could just as easily have become a casualty myself biking around an unfamiliar area in the dark.

If it was a real search & rescue job, or even a training exercise, then I applaud them, as it was an unpleasant night to be out there. But a couple of pretty "Walty" things stood out for me. There was a Mercedes Benz 4x4 (but not a G-Wagen) parked up when I first spotted their gathering. All amber pulsing LEDs left going while it was parked, unattended. Great stuff if the vehicle is presenting some kind of hazard to other road users, but not so necessary if it is parked in a residential street between the heating engineer's Transit van and Cliff and Irene's Kia Picanto. Just turn the bloody things off. The other one was a Frontera (I think) with dayglo stickers on the side windows that appeared to be a 'callsign' - #WE515, or something similar.

Anyway, it left me a little torn between mocking this 4x4 Response mob, and applauding them for their voluntary acts of service to the the community. Mostly, though, if there genuinely was someone lost out in the rapidly descending darkness on a cold wet evening, in difficult terrain, then I hope the volunteers doing the searching found them swiftly and recovered them to safety.

I would have taken photos for the thread, but it didn't seem the right thing to do in the (potential) circumstances, and anyway, the camera on my phone is very poor at taking low light pictures. And at least none of those present tried to marshal me or control my movements.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

49 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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We, MR, often have lots of volunteers ask to help on searches - we tend to stick them with a PC in an unlikely area to keep them out of mischief.

Searching is all about maths and behavioural science. Probability and expected behaviours - there's also then the issue of how to treat any items discovered as they may become evidence in a crime.

It's morbidly fascinating and interesting.

Some info if you're remotely interested - http://www.searchresearch.org.uk/www/ukmpbs/other_...

Big_Dan

359 posts

202 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Article on our local BBC news yesterday explaining that our unsung heroes (4x4 response, pictured driving down a greenlane) are standing by to collect ballot boxes in the event of bad weather

Thank goodness.

john2443

4,566 posts

161 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Big_Dan said:
Article on our local BBC news yesterday explaining that our unsung heroes (4x4 response, pictured driving down a greenlane) are standing by to collect ballot boxes in the event of bad weather

Thank goodness.
Oh Lord - we've allegedly got fake websites pretending to be the other side, Russian interference, the last thing we need is Walts getting lost/stuck in the snow!

Scabutz

2,431 posts

30 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Big_Dan said:
Article on our local BBC news yesterday explaining that our unsung heroes (4x4 response, pictured driving down a greenlane) are standing by to collect ballot boxes in the event of bad weather

Thank goodness.
Thank fk, saving democracy now. They are the heroes we need not the ones we deserve.

As for yellowjacks tale, I am calling massive Walt. The give away is the "weve got it under control thanks". If they genuinely searching for someone or something and a mountain biker fetched up surely the most obvious thing would be to ask them if they had seen it.


GOATever

2,045 posts

17 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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https://thewaltercumpershunterclub.wordpress.com/2...

This idiot is at it again. He was previously caught out telling any unsuspecting woman who would listen, he was former 1 Para, singing st dit’s about deeds of Derring-do in the sand pit. This time he’s doing likewise, dressed in fire brigade uniform, in the Wetherspoon’s in Salisbury, telling locals how he helped out during the Grenfell Tower fire incident ( and how he’s former 1 Para, obvs.) The problem is, he’s unemployed, and lives with his mum laugh . Keep your eyes peeled, if you’re in that area.

yellowjack

12,653 posts

116 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Scabutz said:
Big_Dan said:
Article on our local BBC news yesterday explaining that our unsung heroes (4x4 response, pictured driving down a greenlane) are standing by to collect ballot boxes in the event of bad weather

Thank goodness.
Thank fk, saving democracy now. They are the heroes we need not the ones we deserve.

As for yellowjacks tale, I am calling massive Walt. The give away is the "weve got it under control thanks". If they genuinely searching for someone or something and a mountain biker fetched up surely the most obvious thing would be to ask them if they had seen it.
Or, I dunno? Maybe they, like, found them/it already??? confused

ETA: a link to my bicycling activity... https://www.strava.com/activities/2926486970 ...including the best picture my camera managed of the torch beams of three of the searchers. And a point of order. I said 'mountain bike' because it was easier than explaining that I was out riding mountain bike trails and technical downhill runs on a late 1990s Cannondale "gravel bike" with drop handlebars, on which I'd already got into trouble once that evening, having to throw myself to the floor to avoid tumbling over the handlebars and down a steep part of the hillside. So the search activity wasn't the only reason I retreated from the Hill. Mostly it was to save myself from reckless ambition (which far outstrips my ability to handle a bike) while riding a bicycle largely unsuited to the type of riding I found myself doing. It's made me think, too, about the risks I take when I go out riding in the dark, and the burden I might put upon others if I got it wrong. I won't stop doing it, but I might tone down the challenges I take on...


For anyone remotely interested, the descent on which I "fell off" is called 'The Other Line'. I've managed it in 52 seconds (well short of the quickest recorded Strava time of 14 seconds) on a proper MTB, but last night I recorded a time of 3 minutes dead, and only 1m 22s of that was "moving time". Most of the non-moving time was spent picking myself up off the ground. The longer section, 'camels hump', incorporating the aforementioned section, took me 5m 50s, of which only 2m 34s was spent pedalling. The hills were too steep, the ground too wet, and the terrain too difficult to navigate in the dark on that bike, and pushing the bike up steep bits really sucks the life out of a ride, so I bailed out and headed home.

Edited by yellowjack on Thursday 12th December 15:04

Zetec-S

3,454 posts

43 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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yellowjack said:
There was a big gathering of these Response types last night on St Catherine's Hill, near Christchurch/Bournemouth.

I was heading up there on my mountain bike, and spotted several Wessex 4x4 Response vehicles, plus a police Transit van, with several people milling around in hi-vis. Then, driving away, was a Lowland Rescue Land Rover. No one seemed interested in me, so I made my way up onto the Hill and started riding around. Down on the north slope of the Hill I could see a three-man team searching with powerful torches, and on a nearby old rail bed/bridleway were a couple of vehicles with amber flashing lights.

As I came to realise that they might actually be engaged in the useful exercise of searching for a missing person, I decided to make my way off the Hill. I didn't want to be getting under anyone's feet, making a nuisance of myself, or blinding searchers with my front light. As I came off the Hill I saw that the number of vehicles had increased, and that a large bus-like "Search Control" vehicle was parked up, with an area around the back doors coned off and large urns dispensing hot drinks from trestle tables set up alongside the bus. I asked what was going on but no info was forthcoming other than "we've got it all under control, thanks" so I went home. I wouldn't have been much use to them anyway, dressed in my "silly cycling shoes" and with less than an hour's burn time left in my bike light. Besides which I'm new to the area, and could just as easily have become a casualty myself biking around an unfamiliar area in the dark.

If it was a real search & rescue job, or even a training exercise, then I applaud them, as it was an unpleasant night to be out there. But a couple of pretty "Walty" things stood out for me. There was a Mercedes Benz 4x4 (but not a G-Wagen) parked up when I first spotted their gathering. All amber pulsing LEDs left going while it was parked, unattended. Great stuff if the vehicle is presenting some kind of hazard to other road users, but not so necessary if it is parked in a residential street between the heating engineer's Transit van and Cliff and Irene's Kia Picanto. Just turn the bloody things off. The other one was a Frontera (I think) with dayglo stickers on the side windows that appeared to be a 'callsign' - #WE515, or something similar.

Anyway, it left me a little torn between mocking this 4x4 Response mob, and applauding them for their voluntary acts of service to the the community. Mostly, though, if there genuinely was someone lost out in the rapidly descending darkness on a cold wet evening, in difficult terrain, then I hope the volunteers doing the searching found them swiftly and recovered them to safety.

I would have taken photos for the thread, but it didn't seem the right thing to do in the (potential) circumstances, and anyway, the camera on my phone is very poor at taking low light pictures. And at least none of those present tried to marshal me or control my movements.
Not excusing the Walting, but it appears to be a genuine search.

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18094057.se...

Still a bit odd they didn't ask you if you'd seen anything. Being on a bike you'd have covered a decent area so might have noticed something, wouldn't have hurt them to spend 30 seconds asking if you'd noticed anything out of the ordinary?

yellowjack

12,653 posts

116 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Zetec-S said:
Not excusing the Walting, but it appears to be a genuine search.

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18094057.se...

Still a bit odd they didn't ask you if you'd seen anything. Being on a bike you'd have covered a decent area so might have noticed something, wouldn't have hurt them to spend 30 seconds asking if you'd noticed anything out of the ordinary?
Well that sounds like a sad tale. I truly hope they find her. As it happened I'd seen only one other person up there anyway, a woman in a white puffa jacket walking a small white dog coming off the Hill as i went up. I can't speak for the person who spoke to me, but possibly they didn't realise I'd been up on the Hill? I'd come off the Hill itself about half a mile from where the vehicles were parked, using an exit gate I wasn't previously aware of, and came through the residential estate. So perhaps they thought I was riding past on the road and dismissed the possibility that I'd been on the Hill at all? Who knows, in the end, why someone makes a decision about asking a passer-by about an incident?

But hey? I'm just some Walt who made to whole scenario up. Right?