Misfits, Dad's Army Types et al...

Misfits, Dad's Army Types et al...

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yellowjack

17,073 posts

166 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Evanivitch said:
silverfoxcc said:
Cannot remember if i have already asked this on here,9 but no doubt some ned will turn up the post from seven years back to prove it!!) so apologies if i have.

Can my Cub grandson wear my DadsWW2 medals ( on the right) for the Nov 11 parades?
There are no laws or rules, he can wear what he wishes how he wishes. Obviously no one is going to mistake a Cub for a veteran.

However, the medals of relatives are by convention worn on the right side to minimise the risk of confusion with medals awarded to the person.
The Royal British Legion has this to say about the wearing of medals of a deceased relative...

RBL website said:
Can I wear relative's medals?

THE OFFICIAL VIEW
The official position is that they should not be worn. But, soon after the Great War, it was generally accepted that widows of the fallen wore their late husband's medals on the right breast on suitable occasions. More recently, it has become the custom for any family member to wear medals of deceased relations in this way. Sometimes family members try to give a complete family military history by wearing several groups.

Although understandable, it is officially incorrect. When several groups are worn, it does little for the dignity of the original owners.

THE LEGION'S VIEW
The Legion takes a pragmatic view, and our Ceremonial Rules state:

'The official rules for wearing medals allow only official awards to be worn. Unofficial purchased medals and foreign medals which do not have the Sovereign's permission to be worn are not allowed. Standard Bearers, Parade Marshals and other officials on Legion duty are bound by this ruling, and unofficial medals must not be worn when on Legion duty. The medals awarded to a deceased Service / ex-Service person may be worn on the right breast by a near relative (mother, father, sister, brother, wife, husband, daughter or son). Not more than one group should be worn by any individual'.

https://support.britishlegion.org.uk/app/answers/d...
I'd say "go for it". Your grandson should be aware of what the medals represent, though. The more he knows about great granddad's service the better, so that he can answer questions about the man and his medals. Anyone wearing any old swing mounted ebay purchase on Remembrance Day for a bit of parade bling should be discouraged and called out in the strongest terms. But kids bridging the generation gap and trying to understand the concept of service to others? Only to be encouraged. Your grandson just needs to remember the golden rules... "Stand up straight, chest out, shoulders back, neck back in the collar and LOOK UP!" (Sorry, had to sneak in a drill-square quote from my first Troop SSgt, a Falklands veteran and Cornishman who, when he spoke, used any variation of and between clear, concise plain English, and impenetrable Cornish colloquialisms...)

ETA:

There's this from the UK Government too...

Guidance on wearing of medals and awards from the UK Government said:
Wearing of medals
You should only wear official decorations, medals or emblems that you are entitled to and have been approved for acceptance and wear. Unofficial medals should not be worn with official orders, decorations and medals.

If you are the next of kin of a deceased service person, it is common practice to wear your relative’s decorations and medals as a mark of remembrance. It is custom to wear medals on the right breast in civilian dress only, official approval is not required to wear relative’s medals.

Current serving personnel should not wear relative’s medals or unofficial medals whilst wearing uniform.

Ensure that your replica and miniature medals are bought from an officially licensed replica medal manufacturer. The merchandise licensing programme generates much needed revenue for our Armed Forces welfare funds that supports Serving and Ex-Serving members of the Armed Forces and their families.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/medals-campaigns-descr...
Edited by yellowjack on Thursday 26th May 23:27

jdw100

4,101 posts

164 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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silverfoxcc said:
Cannot remember if i have already asked this on here,9 but no doubt some ned will turn up the post from seven years back to prove it!!) so apologies if i have.

Can my Cub grandson wear my DadsWW2 medals ( on the right) for the Nov 11 parades?
I hope he gets outed and arrested. Photo paraded on front page of local newspaper etc.

Makes my blood boil! A disgrace to even suggest it.

Taking credit for the actions of a fallen soldier, a real hero.

If your dad was alive today I'd shake his hand and tell him "thank you for your service, sir"

He deserved those medals, not some jumped up fantasist of a Cub.

Sickening.

vaud

50,389 posts

155 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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jdw100 said:
I hope he gets outed and arrested.
Arrested for....?

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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vaud said:
jdw100 said:
I hope he gets outed and arrested.
Arrested for....?
Being cub scout is enough isn't it? All those badges and a woggle.

Disgusting.

pavarotti1980

4,865 posts

84 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Paul Dishman said:
That's true enough, and many of my former colleagues kept their pharmacies open right through the past couple of years despite the risks to themselves and their staff, and the lack of much in the way of protection. Personally I don't know any who'd want a medal for it. Takes all sorts
Some of them got to meet royalty the other week for it. What a pleasure that must have been smile

Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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jdw100 said:
I hope he gets outed and arrested. Photo paraded on front page of local newspaper etc.

Makes my blood boil! A disgrace to even suggest it.

Taking credit for the actions of a fallen soldier, a real hero.

If your dad was alive today I'd shake his hand and tell him "thank you for your service, sir"

He deserved those medals, not some jumped up fantasist of a Cub.

Sickening.
Calm down fella, who shat in your cornflakes?

originals

1,635 posts

27 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Flibble said:
jdw100 said:
I hope he gets outed and arrested. Photo paraded on front page of local newspaper etc.

Makes my blood boil! A disgrace to even suggest it.

Taking credit for the actions of a fallen soldier, a real hero.

If your dad was alive today I'd shake his hand and tell him "thank you for your service, sir"

He deserved those medals, not some jumped up fantasist of a Cub.

Sickening.
Calm down fella, who shat in your cornflakes?
It's sarcasm.


Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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originals said:
It's sarcasm.
Thanks captain obvious.

originals

1,635 posts

27 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Flibble said:
originals said:
It's sarcasm.
Thanks captain obvious.
Your response to it was st then.

Paul Dishman

4,686 posts

237 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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pavarotti1980 said:
Paul Dishman said:
That's true enough, and many of my former colleagues kept their pharmacies open right through the past couple of years despite the risks to themselves and their staff, and the lack of much in the way of protection. Personally I don't know any who'd want a medal for it. Takes all sorts
Some of them got to meet royalty the other week for it. What a pleasure that must have been smile
They were delighted, I think as much for the profession as for themselves

vikingaero

10,291 posts

169 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Paul Dishman said:
Krupp88 said:
Did you fancy your own framed George Cross but felt left out that it was only for NHS workers? Fear not there is a (made up) Keyworkers and Caregivers award just for you….

That really is weird. I don't see the point of medals that you get for turning up for work, such as the Queens Jubilee Medal, or long service medals, but that is in a different category altogether.
I can get a medal because of Queenies "Jubbly", but apparently I have to pay for it - no thanks. I got one at her last Jubbly and it was indeed utter tat.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

123 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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In the height of lockdown my village FB group was full of mad key workers shouting about how important they were. Eg the morons who adhered their cars with “ key worker stickers”

I took great delight at winding them up and eventually I got someone to bite and challenge my key worker status.

I delighted in telling them I worked at timpsons.

Cue much mirth from the more intelligent in the village.

jdw100

4,101 posts

164 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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vaud said:
jdw100 said:
I hope he gets outed and arrested.
Arrested for....?
I believe the Americans call it 'stolen valour'?

Did he earn that medal in battle? No.

I see no difference between this Cub and the other walts driving around in their batenburged 4x4s.

If there is not a law...well there bloody ought to be!


Sheets Tabuer

18,940 posts

215 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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I wasn't furloughed, I worked all the way through the pandemic, I want my medal dammit.

BossHogg

5,997 posts

178 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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I'm getting one! laugh

bigandclever

13,767 posts

238 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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jdw100 said:
If there is not a law...well there bloody ought to be!
Dyb dyb dyb, dob dob dob him in to the authorities!

Bobupndown

1,785 posts

43 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Evanivitch said:
silverfoxcc said:
Cannot remember if i have already asked this on here,9 but no doubt some ned will turn up the post from seven years back to prove it!!) so apologies if i have.

Can my Cub grandson wear my DadsWW2 medals ( on the right) for the Nov 11 parades?
There are no laws or rules, he can wear what he wishes how he wishes. Obviously no one is going to mistake a Cub for a veteran.

However, the medals of relatives are by convention worn on the right side to minimise the risk of confusion with medals awarded to the person.
Yes he can. My sons have worn their great and great great grandfather's war medals on remembrance parades for cubs and scouts.
I think it's a nice mark of respect and keeps their sacrifices in the memory of a younger generation.

Krupp88

591 posts

127 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Evanivitch said:
silverfoxcc said:
Cannot remember if i have already asked this on here,9 but no doubt some ned will turn up the post from seven years back to prove it!!) so apologies if i have.

Can my Cub grandson wear my DadsWW2 medals ( on the right) for the Nov 11 parades?
There are no laws or rules, he can wear what he wishes how he wishes. Obviously no one is going to mistake a Cub for a veteran.

However, the medals of relatives are by convention worn on the right side to minimise the risk of confusion with medals awarded to the person.
Just needs someone to turn up wearing the East Front medal, close combat clasp in gold and the sliver wound badge, on the appropriate side obviously....

straight dad

452 posts

157 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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BossHogg said:
I'm getting one! laugh
F%*k me you lot spent less time at work than those that were furloughed wink

hairy v

1,179 posts

144 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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austinsmirk said:
In the height of lockdown my village FB group was full of mad key workers shouting about how important they were. Eg the morons who adhered their cars with “ key worker stickers”

I took great delight at winding them up and eventually I got someone to bite and challenge my key worker status.

I delighted in telling them I worked at timpsons.

Cue much mirth from the more intelligent in the village.
hehe